[S1LV3R_W0LF]

Ok first of all I wanna make clear that I know there are some threads about GTAV PC, and also there was a lot of topics about rumors. But the purpose of my thread is not to talk about rumors or to talk about if there is or not a version or to be transformed in another useless debate/ flame war with consoles.

These are all facts, that I mentioned before but that people miss, because they hardly read the whole threads and this time I'll post all the sources of these informations, instead of just listing them. So I think once and for all I should make this thread that originated a few articles on the Internet on websites I didn't even knew with the list I made but that many people questioned because there were no facts to support it, ok here we go:




1 - Rockstar wrote on Steam News the in the exact same day it was announced to be out for consoles Spring 2013 (console games aren't announced there unless they are also planned for the PC platform):



As you can see it wasn't a fake account like some first said, and they even replied to the users that most of the time said they were happy because was coming to PC, and things like that and Rockstar never said otherwise.

Later this sort of comments started to appear, so why would Rockstar pissing users so much? Either cofirm it or not, but not post information on a platform that "won't get a release":



Oh and I did a search on Steam, and there were also published news from Rockstar on L.A. Noire, GTAIV, Max Payne 3 and others but not a single one on Red Dead Revolver.


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2 - Rockstar made the mistake of including parts of their test files in a Social Club Update (that or some employee about to get fired did it), they made another update right after and removed the content and the folder labeled GTAV but tthey never gave any explanation:



http://rockstarnexus.com/article/60/Grand-...lub-files-on-PC


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3 - The leaks/ mistakes of well known websites like IGN, Gamespot, Amazon that listed the game for PC even after the platforms announcement. Some removed it others didn't, and let's be honest IGN was in R* HQ I'm sure they know a bit more then we do but the NDA/ Embargo would get them in trouble if they said something, they already got in trouble a few times for leaks like those:




http://uk.ign.com/games/grand-theft-auto-v/pc-20593


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4 - The 2 CV leaks from Rockstar employees that mentioned they were working in GTAV and was being developed for Xbox360, PS3 and PC:

http://www.gamefront.com/leaked-rockstar-e...ops-in-october/


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5 - The few messages sent to Rockstar support where people made technical questions about hardware and specifications with them answering as if they knew what the game will need for PC, when the normal answer would be "we don't have any information about that".





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6 - The EB Games Store that had PC BOX (not the final cover) but same as the consoles but with the PC label on given by Rockstar for PC Pre-Orders (someone opened a R* box too soon I bet):




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7 - Store posters with GTAV artwork where you can read Xbox360/PS3 and PC.

They where the ones who posted it:

http://www.gamemania.nl/Default.aspx?tabid=88&gmgame=26695

Although the link that had the image is now dead and I don't know where I've put the image I downloaded back then:

http://www.rockstarbase.com/grand-theft-auto-v-pc-version

EDIT: The links are working again, and just by any case, I'm posting the screenshots of the website and the advertising ad of this Dutch & Belgium retailer, notice that it is set as "Hot Pre-Order" no one would do this if they weren't sure about it. Also notice that the Box Art is exactly the same of EB Games and it's not GAMES FOR WINDOWS LIVE like many claim, it's GAMES FOR WINDOWS, which is a common label for all PC Games with support for Xbox360 controller (this must be the common artwork box given by Rockstar too retailers for PC till they get the final one out):










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8 - Some interventions in this same website few years ago, where Rockstar Toronto stated that they would treat the PC platform differently with next GTA and they would unleash the real capabilities of the engine that was still "too young" and they were just learning how to handle it properly.

I can't find where exactly that is, If I remember right was when they posted the first information about the coming Patch and everyone asked why no DX10 and other technical questions, but I'll leave their profile here, in case someone wanna look for it in GTAIV PC Section:

http://www.gtaforums.com/index.php?showuser=352152


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9 - There was also the leak of information of a guy in this same forum, that he said he worked for Rockstar and he knew the game was too be released back in 2010 the first time, then 2011, 2012 and then was changed again, he stated the game was being developed for consoles and PC and he gave links to some "Inside" posts mentioning GTAV and even that Rockstar had a plan for a GTA kind of Game for online, like APB.

He also mentioned some interesting facts, like the game would have 3 characters, Albert, Franklin and Trevor, the funny thing is that he mentioned this months ago, before we even knew of the existence of 3 characters (clearly the first information of a character named Alberto da Silva was real and maybe that caused a delay in the game release, because was changed to Michael), he also mentioned about the size of the map that was the same said by GameInformer and few other things, unfortunately the link was deleted or something by the Admins of this forum (that have ties with Rockstar, at least one of the Admins does), but I'm sure a lot of people had the chance to see that and maybe downloaded the pics or took screens?

The link was this and was pointed out by a member named sats:

http://www.gtaforums.com/index.php?act=Sea...sult_type=posts

EDIT: Found the images I had stored in my HDD (maybe they'll get deleted again, specially if they are "too hot"):

The post with the information leak about the 3 characters with accurate names, except for Albert that later was replaced with Michael (message posted in March 2012 before we even knew about multi characters):



One of the images he posted to prove he was part of Rockstar and the game was originally planned to be released in 2010, like the first rumors said and also you can see and as he stated in another thread I didn't took a screenshot it was being developed to PC since the beginning, what indicates that most likely won't be another port:




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10 -Rockstar said that the Crews in Max Payne 3 could be used for GTAV, so it wouldn't be fair or made any sense if they said this and the PC players that bought the game expecting to have their friends in their crews for GTA V, be left out.


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Reason why it wasn't announced yet, my guess is that Rockstar want to milk consoles first specially being this the last year of their "life" at least as the top in the market. And since there was no rumors of any agreements with SONY or Microsoft like there was with GTAIV, and specially because right after GTAIV was released both SONY and MICROSOFT said they wouldn't pay for exclusivity again because they didnt reach their objectives (sell more consoles), it's possible that the PC version is released weeks or 1 or 2 months after the consoles, maybe same like was done with Max Payne 3.


And thats it, not trying to ruin Rockstar plans or anything like it, just stating some facts to give hope to some desperate players that are waiting for the confirmation of Rockstar, specially after reading that "up for consideration article", but the fact is that there was a misinterpretation of it, the question was made for other versions including PC and Wii U and the answer was all is up for consideration, maybe if the question was directed for PC version only, the answer would be different.

I think I'm forgetting something but it's late here and I can't think right, but I'll update this when I remember or I get something more to be added.

This post has been edited by S1LV3R_W0LF on Tuesday, Jan 22 2013, 01:59

[AdvanceTrak RSC]

I would think they would lose alot of money if they didn't create a pc version

[Mr.c TO the J]

Was there really in doubt that it was in the works/pretty close to being started? (Devlopment can mean pre-devlopment stuff in some cases, geting a team ready etc.)

Honestly GTAV like every other GTA before it will be on the PC, may come out at a later date (don't see why they don't do what they did with MP3 and devlop all three platforms at the same time no ports or anything, they could be though who knows), but it'll come really didn't think it warrented a topic, but none the less this was a good collection of infromation, and will hopefully erase the doubts of those who are thinking their won't be. So good work on finding the info and the sources to prove it S1LV3R_W0LF.

[Gtaghost22]

I thought everybody knows they will release a PC version eventually, it is really goddamn obvious, Rockstar isn't stupid, I don't think they want to lose potential millions of profit, they will release it 2-5 months after the console version, I'm sure. Console player here.

[S1LV3R_W0LF]

Well a lot have been saying it won't happen because of RDR, others lost hope because of the same thing, so here I am posting the facts that backup my claims.

If you go around on some other threads and see the amount of console players stating otherwise, I know some are just kids but still.

[Deadly Target]

The real question is, will the PC version include the video editor? Just imagine how many awesome movies could be made with it. While it was incredible in GTA4, the downside was you were limited to just one city. With GTA5 there's animals, forests, deserts, mountains and underwater. The possibilities are endless!

[GrandMaster Smith]

No need for some bogus theory.. of course it's going to come out for PC you'd have to be mad to think otherwise.


I'm sure one of the main reasons is due to piracy issues. If they release for PC simultaneously next to consoles they will lose ALOT of money as opposed to forcing PC gamers to get it on console if they really want to play it at first.

They probably want to optimize it very well too, since the PC version will more than likely be the longest living version due to mods and whatnot.

[Killerdude8]

6 and 7 are the same thing, Also those are just placeholders, doesn't prove anything.
3 you're using IGN as a thing to back something up. Fail.

Other then that pretty solid sh*t you got here.

[PrometheusX]

QUOTE (S1LV3R_W0LF @ Saturday, Jan 5 2013, 06:18)

Well a lot have been saying it won't happen because of RDR, others lost hope because of the same thing, so here I am posting the facts that backup my claims. If you go around on some other threads and see the amount of console players stating otherwise, I know some are just kids but still.

You do know that Red Dead Redemption is a game that was developed by R* San Diego, a studio that haven't released a game on the PC platform since 2003 - almost 10 years ago. It's been mentioned numerous times. But people are always bringing up RDR as some kind of evidence, and somehow forget about the fact that L.A. Noire and Max Payne 3 were released on the PC platform.

Anyways good topic, but as others said it's pretty much known that's it's coming to PC. The million dollar question is When?

Perhaps you should add something about R* San Diego, and their history with the PC platform.

[huhwut?]

[JaggySnake]

Didn't bother reading. Pc gamers are over reacting way too much about this Pc situation!

Of course they will release V for Pc. Sure, they could get away with not making it because the Pc represents <1/4 of all total sales. Consoles make double/triple than Pc. Anyway don't want to start a war since I know how sensitive you all are.

People will argue that it's possible that V won't come out on Pc because RDR was console exclusive. 1. Rock star didn't expect it to be such a hit ( I'd rate it as their 2nd best game ever) so they weren't sure if it was worth the time, money or effort to produce a Pc version. 2. They could have started developing it after seeing that lots of fans demanded a Pc version but maybe, again, it's just not worth the time, money or effort. They have been and are working on new games.

Lets forget RDR now. I'm 99% sure that V will arrive on PC. Again, they could get away with not bringing it out BUT I have never thought they'd seriously do that. Finally, it's obvious now that the PC version WILL NOT release at the same time as console versions. If you know what rock star is like then this shouldn't surprise you.

Expect GTAV PC version ~October/December 2013.

[Raynos]

QUOTE (GrandMaster Smith @ Saturday, Jan 5 2013, 06:55)

No need for some bogus theory.. of course it's going to come out for PC you'd have to be mad to think otherwise.

Yeap, exactly.

GTA V on PC is inevitable. No need to try and "prove" it. It's just something that will happen.
As usual, it will not be a simultaneous release with consoles, but it will happen.

[PrometheusX]

QUOTE (JaggySnake @ Saturday, Jan 5 2013, 07:40)

People will argue that it's possible that V won't come out on Pc because RDR was console exclusive. 1. Rock star didn't expect it to be such a hit ( I'd rate it as their 2nd best game ever) so they weren't sure if it was worth the time, money or effort to produce a Pc version. 2. They could have started developing it after seeing that lots of fans demanded a Pc version but maybe, again, it's just not worth the time, money or effort. They have been and are working on new games.

Again, you should check R* San Diego's previous titles and their platforms. They're known to create console-exclusive titles only, since '03. It's a completely different story with RDR, there's no use bringing it up in this matter.

[MWC]

they didn't bother porting RDR to PC because they were busy developing GTAV for PC #FACT

[PlaystationGamer266]

Gta 5 will come to PC















































in about 12 months after the release date

[huhwut?]

QUOTE (PlaystationGamer266 @ Saturday, Jan 5 2013, 08:19)

Gta 5 will come to PC in about 12 months after the release date

Enjoy the inferior version

[PlaystationGamer266]

QUOTE (huhwut? @ Saturday, Jan 5 2013, 08:27)

QUOTE (PlaystationGamer266 @ Saturday, Jan 5 2013, 08:19) Gta 5 will come to PC in about 12 months after the release date  Enjoy the inferior version

I shall

[shoumic]

QUOTE (PrometheusX @ Saturday, Jan 5 2013, 14:08)

Again, you should check R* San Diego's previous titles and their platforms. They're known to create console-exclusive titles only, since '03. It's a completely different story with RDR, there's no use bringing it up in this matter.

Yes, R* San Diego's last PC release was Midnight Club LA back in 2003. Although I do feel R* SD could have released RDR for the PC if they wanted to but I dont they expected the game to be as big of an hit as it was hence refraining to do a PC version. I honestly don't feel it was a reource problem. Piracy is out of the question but R* SD simply did not make RDR becasue R* didn't expect it to be as big as it became.

[GetThefuckAoutGTA]

QUOTE (AdvanceTrak RSC @ Saturday, Jan 5 2013, 05:53)

I would think they would lose alot of money if they didn't create a pc version

Don't think so

[ssalil]

very good and detailed analysis of the "floating clues around the corner" I too have some statistical and marketing analysis based on my knowledge that makes me believe that R* will bring GTA V to PC eventually,it's just how much patience we have to control ourselves I thought posting those analysis as a thread but was afraid as any fun trolling user creating any kind of unnecessary flame war and the thread getting locked because of many more "GTA V PC threads"