[LoreLegend]

Ok so I have EFLC and the normal GTA IV but they lag when I am playing and honestly its pretty annoying
I always think I have a bad FPS that way but I did a benchmark and it said my FPS is 51.8

Settings:

Resolution: 1920x1080 (60 Hz)
Texture Quality: Medium
Reflection Resolution: Medium
Water Quality: High
Shadow Quality: Medium
Night Shadows: Medium
Anisotropic x16
View Distance: 25
Detail Distance: 31
Vehicle Density: 51

Resource Usage: 364/995 MB

Specs:

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bits
AMD A6-3670 2.7 GHz QuadCore
AMD Radeon HD 7770 1GB
8GB Ram

I only encounter this problem on GTA IV
On for example on Mafia II I put everything on high and it runs great (50-60 FPS)

This post has been edited by LoreLegend on Sunday, Sep 9 2012, 06:36

[Girish]

Are you sure it's lag or is it stuttering?
Are you using any commandlines?
Have you tried lowering the resolution? Does it make any difference?

[LoreLegend]

QUOTE (Girish @ Sunday, Sep 9 2012, 05:31)

Are you sure it's lag or is it stuttering? Are you using any commandlines? Have you tried lowering the resolution? Does it make any difference?

Its kinda stuttering not lag but I just call it lag
I haven't used any commandlines
I tried lowering resolution and it doesn't make any difference well ok alright if I put it on 800x600 it makes difference but thats common sense

This post has been edited by LoreLegend on Sunday, Sep 9 2012, 06:45

[jpm1]

try removing night shadows and reducing traffic density a bit . disconnect auto-save and video recording . it can come from the resolution equally , but i can't tell as i don't know the GC

[Regor245]

Lowering Resolution will have bottleneck the GPU more. GTA IV is poorly optimized games and Commandlines doesn't help much. This is is CPU hog.

Try overclocking your CPU around 3.2Ghz, it might help a bit. Because i saw a big difference from overclocking my athlon ii x2 2.9ghz to 3.5ghz. It adds 5-8 Fps more. (In benchmark it says 38 Fps, but in actual Gameplay it goes around 28-32Fps.)

Also try to put Reflection Quality to High or Very High so the GPU will get more load and turn off Vsync and Clip Capture.

__________

Btw, Shadow is the one killing GTA IV's Performance, Turning it off gives a big boost.

This post has been edited by Regor245 on Sunday, Sep 9 2012, 11:50

[LoreLegend]

QUOTE (Regor245 @ Sunday, Sep 9 2012, 11:47)

Lowering Resolution will have bottleneck the GPU more. GTA IV is poorly optimized games and Commandlines doesn't help much. This is is CPU hog. Try overclocking your CPU around 3.2Ghz, it might help a bit. Because i saw a big difference from overclocking my athlon ii x2 2.9ghz to 3.5ghz. It adds 5-8 Fps more. (In benchmark it says 38 Fps, but in actual Gameplay it goes around 28-32Fps.) Also try to put Reflection Quality to High or Very High so the GPU will get more load and turn off Vsync and Clip Capture. __________ Btw, Shadow is the one killing GTA IV's Performance, Turning it off gives a big boost.

Overclocking is not an option at all
I tried overclocking it to 3.3 GHz and it crashed when it said: Windows is starting
The same thing happened with 3.2 GHz so I tried 3.0 GHz so then my game crashed
Now I put it back to 2.7 GHz which it originally was and it works just like before
Seems like I can't overclock my CPU
As for putting Reflection quality on very high and stuff it worked a little bit but hey everything counts
So I did a benchmark after changing the settings and I am actually having 60 FPS now

Statistics
Average FPS: 59.93
Duration: 37.15 sec
CPU Usage: 67%
System memory usage: 36%
Video memory usage: 51%

Graphics Settings
Video Mode: 1920 x 1080 (60 Hz)
Texture Quality: Medium
Shadow Quality: Off
Reflection Resolution: Very High
Water Quality: Medium
Texture Filter Quality: Anisotropic x16
Night Shadows: Off
View Distance: 20
Detail Distance: 31

This post has been edited by LoreLegend on Sunday, Sep 9 2012, 12:41

[dansgas1000]

Remove night shadows. Radeoon 7770 should run at high but it is only a mid-range card.

[LoreLegend]

QUOTE (dansgas1000 @ Sunday, Sep 9 2012, 12:43)

Remove night shadows. Radeoon 7770 should run at high but it is only a mid-range card.

I already turned it off

[jpm1]

does that stuterring appears randomly or at particular occasions only (weather , traffic ..) . whatever your hardware or your tweaks you'll always have few small lags sometimes

[LoreLegend]

QUOTE (jpm1 @ Sunday, Sep 9 2012, 17:49)

does that stuterring appears randomly or at particular occasions only (weather , traffic ..) . whatever your hardware or your tweaks you'll always have few small lags sometimes

It just stutters everytime
Its not random and it doesn't matter what traffic or what weather it just stutters

[jpm1]

do you have a player or a browser opened in the background . do you have graphic drivers up to date , try reintalling direct x libraries . you may have a too ressource demanding AV too ??

[LoreLegend]

QUOTE (jpm1 @ Sunday, Sep 9 2012, 18:40)

do you have a player or a browser opened in the background . do you have graphic drivers up to date , try reintalling direct x libraries . you may have a too ressource demanding AV too ??

First of all I would like to point out I NEVER EVER have a browser or player open in the background
My graphics driver is up to date
Re installing directx seems useless to me however because I trust you I did it and it didn't make a difference
Also I don't get what you mean with a ''too resource demanding AV'' could you please explain it

[jpm1]

QUOTE (LoreLegend @ Sunday, Sep 9 2012, 20:47)

... Re installing directx seems useless to me however because I trust you I did it and it didn't make a difference ...

i'm trying to help here , i'm not forcing you

QUOTE (LoreLegend @ Sunday, Sep 9 2012, 20:47)

... ... Also I don't get what you mean with a ''too resource demanding AV'' could you please explain it

a gas factory anti-virus ..


are you main drivers (cpu , audio ..) up to date . are all your drivers verified one

[LoreLegend]

Well when my drivers are up to date I do think their verified no?
Also I know your trying to help thats why I try every possibility you guys recommend me to do
I think I get it now
Are you saying a too RAM demanding Anti-Virus? Also I don't think its a problem my Video Card has 1GB and I have 8GB on my PC itself
If so I just have AVG 2012 Free Edition
I need to turn it off when I am downloading files most of the times because else its some ''trojan horse''

[jpm1]

when a driver isn't veriified you see a windows warning popup while installing . such drivers aren't recommended as they're known to slow down the OS . AVG is an efficient AV but i remember i removed it once cause it was too heavy , for antivir much lighter . if you installed mods try rebuilding all img files with open iv

[unc13bud]

post your power supply wattage and manufacturer - a UL number would be great also.

[LoreLegend]

My wattage is 600
Manufacturer is Gigabyte
And what do you mean with UL number?

@jpm1: Well ok then they are verified and like I said I never touched any IMG file in GTA IV

[HornBasher62]

Have you tried this:

QUOTE

Hi, it took some time to find out : the only service you have to disable is Windows event log, and this strange lag is gone. So, use windows key + R, type msconfig, go to services, disable Windows event log, apply, ok, restart computer. Have fun. Slunken.

Here's a link to op: GTA IV + Windows 7 + Press key = mini studder?

[LoreLegend]

QUOTE (HornBasher62 @ Monday, Sep 10 2012, 16:06)

Have you tried this: QUOTE Hi, it took some time to find out : the only service you have to disable is Windows event log, and this strange lag is gone. So, use windows key + R, type msconfig, go to services, disable Windows event log, apply, ok, restart computer. Have fun. Slunken. Here's a link to op: GTA IV + Windows 7 + Press key = mini studder?

Just tried it and it didn't work
I also notice how on EFLC the stuttering is not as worse as on the normal GTA IV

[GTALegacy]

If you are using a boxed retail (disc) version of GTA IV and it is patched to 1.0.7... Uninstall it, re-install it and then patch it to 1.0.4.

The most recent patch (1.0.7) causes tremendous stuttering for AMD/ATI cards.

I have an i7 @ 3.3 GHZ and a 4870x2 with 2GB of VRAM and the game is unplayable in terms of micro-stuttering. However, I downgraded to patch 1.0.4 and it plays as smooth as silk.

Also, this is one of the few games you cannot max out (view distance, level of detail and traffic density) due to the poor optimization.

I just play with all the graphical features on "high", but use the console settings for view distance, level of detail and traffic density.

In fact, this is why most modern computers can't max out this game. It's not just that it is poorly coded, but that people try and push the view distance and LOD past what it was meant to handle. Sure, it would be nice to have a constant 100% LOD so everything is crisp and clear and there is no pop-in as far as textures and architecture go... But that is not possible given the shoddy port job they did. There is also no noticeable difference in the view past 30. All you are doing (50, 60, 100) is adding more CPU cycles that have to be pushed to the GPU that could be used to render more frames instead of what you CAN'T see behind a few skyscrapers, or around a curve in the street.