[CSM. HB J-DOGG]

December 18, 2012 lol

[Above]

QUOTE (CSM. HB J-DOGG @ Monday, Aug 20 2012, 22:56)

December 18, 2012 lol

Too late for Christmas postage.

[Johacamigames]

QUOTE (Above @ Monday, Aug 20 2012, 18:56)

QUOTE (Johacamigames @ Monday, Aug 20 2012, 22:53) QUOTE (Above @ Monday, Aug 20 2012, 18:51) QUOTE (BirthOfMayhem @ Monday, Aug 20 2012, 22:49) As much as I would LIKE GTA V to be released this October, I just don't see it possible. You cant' do a whole marketing campaign within two months. Although we are starting to get more information, be it the 3 screens today, and 3 more later this week; we can't assume everything will just be thrown in our face and have a game by October. March 2013 Apple can reveal a product a couple of weeks before it arrives and sell plenty. So can Rockstar when the product is called GTA. Yeah but this is a game not a cell phone that releases every year or some kind of useless product Does that change anything? If people want to play GTA they will know it comes and pre-order or eventually buy it. It's not some new franchise which has to convince its worth to sceptical consumers.

Dude every company has to market their game, they average at least 4 months doing so.. they can't just say "Let's market this game for about a month and then release it! The real fans will buy it and the others will soon follow months later, it's the purfect plan huehehueeuhe" No they will have to market it to show everyone that it is going to be out there soon, each day day advertise or market is a huge success when they sell the game. I know you want the game badly but you can't name one company that marketed a game for 2-3 weeks out of the blue and release it by the end of the year.

[S1LV3R_W0LF]

Man explain too me why a game that is KNOWN WORLDWIDE, that is the theme of every games magazine, that every time something related to it comes out the Internet explodes with messages about it, that people almost worship daily seeking info about it ... need a marketing campaign? Waste money? Ok.

Rockstar could say 1 week before the game would be released and they wouldn't have enough available copies for everyone in the first day, some people would even do a line and camp at the store 1 week before to grantee they would be one of the first. The time of the slow communications that needed to make us buy something is over, specially with a product like this.

I would like to have the game I won't lie about that, but I think the new bold direction of R* also includes a change in marketing strategy, MP3 campaign failed badly so a long marketing surely doesn't mean high sales, if something is good people will buy it.

This post has been edited by S1LV3R_W0LF on Monday, Aug 20 2012, 23:03

[Knife]

Rockstar DO have to convince people to buy it. Yes, if released tomorrow with no marketing they'd still sell millions of copies. But they'd sell less. It's pretty simple: 6 months of marketing will sell more copies than 1 or 2 months of marketing. It would likely make a difference of tens of millions of dollars. What you've got to ask yourself is, why would Rockstar want to do a short, small marketing campaign for their 'biggest and most ambitious game yet'? What's the benefit?

An October release is unrealistic. No, it's not impossible, it's not impossible until it's November. But there is no evidence and it goes completely against all of Rockstars past marketing and marketing for games in general. There's absolutely no reason why Rockstar still wouldn't have announced the release date or the platforms at this point if it was coming out in October. Seriously, I actually can't believe the poll results. Rockstar could spend 2 months just talking about multiplayer and doing previews and play sessions of that. No way will they splurge all the details into a matter of weeks, it'd just be a waste.

[Above]

QUOTE (Johacamigames @ Monday, Aug 20 2012, 23:00)

QUOTE (Above @ Monday, Aug 20 2012, 18:56) QUOTE (Johacamigames @ Monday, Aug 20 2012, 22:53) QUOTE (Above @ Monday, Aug 20 2012, 18:51) QUOTE (BirthOfMayhem @ Monday, Aug 20 2012, 22:49) As much as I would LIKE GTA V to be released this October, I just don't see it possible. You cant' do a whole marketing campaign within two months. Although we are starting to get more information, be it the 3 screens today, and 3 more later this week; we can't assume everything will just be thrown in our face and have a game by October. March 2013 Apple can reveal a product a couple of weeks before it arrives and sell plenty. So can Rockstar when the product is called GTA. Yeah but this is a game not a cell phone that releases every year or some kind of useless product Does that change anything? If people want to play GTA they will know it comes and pre-order or eventually buy it. It's not some new franchise which has to convince its worth to sceptical consumers. Dude every company has to market their game, they average at least 4 months doing so.. they can't just say "Let's market this game for about a month and then release it! The real fans will buy it and the others will soon follow months later, it's the purfect plan huehehueeuhe" No they will have to market it to show everyone that it is going to be out there soon, each day day advertise or market is a huge success when they sell the game. I know you want the game badly but you can't name one company that marketed a game for 2-3 weeks out of the blue and release it by the end of the year.

Can you explain why only the fans would buy it upon release and the remaining customers will wait months to get it unless Rockstar informs them several montsh in advance? Makes no sense to me.

I'm simply pointing out that Apple can sell lots of iPhones or iPads without long marketing campaigns. Products that are several times more expensive than console games and Apple somehow managed to become the most valueable company out there. However, the primary reason may be that they deliver products that people want to buy and so does Rockstar with GTA. Marketing is just a formality and there are not given rules about how to approach it. Consumers have known about this game since late 2011, no need to remind us over and over again. Who knows if we'll get a release date this month?

[jumper2011]

QUOTE (shoumic @ Monday, Aug 20 2012, 19:55)

I think its either May or October. October 2012 is too early IMO. 2013 definately

Fix'd it for u

[Above]

QUOTE (Knife @ Monday, Aug 20 2012, 23:12)

Rockstar DO have to convince people to buy it. Yes, if released tomorrow with no marketing they'd still sell millions of copies. But they'd sell less. It's pretty simple: 6 months of marketing will sell more copies than 1 or 2 months of marketing. It would likely make a difference of tens of millions of dollars. What you've got to ask yourself is, why would Rockstar want to do a short, small marketing campaign for their 'biggest and most ambitious game yet'? What's the benefit? An October release is unrealistic. No, it's not impossible, it's not impossible until it's November. But there is no evidence and it goes completely against all of Rockstars past marketing and marketing for games in general. There's absolutely no reason why Rockstar still wouldn't have announced the release date or the platforms at this point if it was coming out in October. Seriously, I actually can't believe the poll results. Rockstar could spend 2 months just talking about multiplayer and doing previews and play sessions of that. No way will they splurge all the details into a matter of weeks, it'd just be a waste.

They would want to do a short marketing campaign in order to save money after the failed sales of Max Payne 3. The success of GTA V does not depend on marketing. The vault has a bottom and projected earnings have to be met.

[shoumic]

QUOTE (Knife @ Monday, Aug 20 2012, 23:12)

Rockstar DO have to convince people to buy it. Yes, if released tomorrow with no marketing they'd still sell millions of copies. But they'd sell less. It's pretty simple: 6 months of marketing will sell more copies than 1 or 2 months of marketing. It would likely make a difference of tens of millions of dollars. What you've got to ask yourself is, why would Rockstar want to do a short, small marketing campaign for their 'biggest and most ambitious game yet'? What's the benefit? An October release is unrealistic. No, it's not impossible, it's not impossible until it's November. But there is no evidence and it goes completely against all of Rockstars past marketing and marketing for games in general. There's absolutely no reason why Rockstar still wouldn't have announced the release date or the platforms at this point if it was coming out in October. Seriously, I actually can't believe the poll results. Rockstar could spend 2 months just talking about multiplayer and doing previews and play sessions of that. No way will they splurge all the details into a matter of weeks, it'd just be a waste.

This should have been a 2012 vs 2013 topic. Not an october possible now topic.

[redx165]

QUOTE (Knife @ Monday, Aug 20 2012, 23:12)

Rockstar DO have to convince people to buy it. Yes, if released tomorrow with no marketing they'd still sell millions of copies. But they'd sell less. It's pretty simple: 6 months of marketing will sell more copies than 1 or 2 months of marketing. It would likely make a difference of tens of millions of dollars. What you've got to ask yourself is, why would Rockstar want to do a short, small marketing campaign for their 'biggest and most ambitious game yet'? What's the benefit? An October release is unrealistic. No, it's not impossible, it's not impossible until it's November. But there is no evidence and it goes completely against all of Rockstars past marketing and marketing for games in general. There's absolutely no reason why Rockstar still wouldn't have announced the release date or the platforms at this point if it was coming out in October. Seriously, I actually can't believe the poll results. Rockstar could spend 2 months just talking about multiplayer and doing previews and play sessions of that. No way will they splurge all the details into a matter of weeks, it'd just be a waste.

GTA V doesn't need 6 months. That's more a waste in money. 3 months is perfect for GTA V.

[Staten]

QUOTE (Above @ Tuesday, Aug 21 2012, 00:21)

QUOTE (Knife @ Monday, Aug 20 2012, 23:12) Rockstar DO have to convince people to buy it. Yes, if released tomorrow with no marketing they'd still sell millions of copies. But they'd sell less. It's pretty simple: 6 months of marketing will sell more copies than 1 or 2 months of marketing. It would likely make a difference of tens of millions of dollars. What you've got to ask yourself is, why would Rockstar want to do a short, small marketing campaign for their 'biggest and most ambitious game yet'? What's the benefit? An October release is unrealistic. No, it's not impossible, it's not impossible until it's November. But there is no evidence and it goes completely against all of Rockstars past marketing and marketing for games in general. There's absolutely no reason why Rockstar still wouldn't have announced the release date or the platforms at this point if it was coming out in October. Seriously, I actually can't believe the poll results. Rockstar could spend 2 months just talking about multiplayer and doing previews and play sessions of that. No way will they splurge all the details into a matter of weeks, it'd just be a waste. They would want to do a short marketing campaign in order to save money after the failed sales of Max Payne 3. The success of GTA V does not depend on marketing. The vault has a bottom and projected earnings have to be met.

The success of GTA does not depend on releasing it as quickly as possible either. They lose nothing with a 7-month advertising campaign. In fact, they only gain.

[Knife]

QUOTE (Above @ Tuesday, Aug 21 2012, 00:21)

They would want to do a short marketing campaign in order to save money after the failed sales of Max Payne 3. The success of GTA V does not depend on marketing. The vault has a bottom and projected earnings have to be met.

That doesn't really make sense. A marketing campaign is designed to make money, it'd cost them NOT to do one. Also, magazine previews and announcing the release date doesn't cost them a penny.

[redx165]

QUOTE (Staten @ Monday, Aug 20 2012, 23:25)

QUOTE (Above @ Tuesday, Aug 21 2012, 00:21) QUOTE (Knife @ Monday, Aug 20 2012, 23:12) Rockstar DO have to convince people to buy it. Yes, if released tomorrow with no marketing they'd still sell millions of copies. But they'd sell less. It's pretty simple: 6 months of marketing will sell more copies than 1 or 2 months of marketing. It would likely make a difference of tens of millions of dollars. What you've got to ask yourself is, why would Rockstar want to do a short, small marketing campaign for their 'biggest and most ambitious game yet'? What's the benefit? An October release is unrealistic. No, it's not impossible, it's not impossible until it's November. But there is no evidence and it goes completely against all of Rockstars past marketing and marketing for games in general. There's absolutely no reason why Rockstar still wouldn't have announced the release date or the platforms at this point if it was coming out in October. Seriously, I actually can't believe the poll results. Rockstar could spend 2 months just talking about multiplayer and doing previews and play sessions of that. No way will they splurge all the details into a matter of weeks, it'd just be a waste. They would want to do a short marketing campaign in order to save money after the failed sales of Max Payne 3. The success of GTA V does not depend on marketing. The vault has a bottom and projected earnings have to be met. The success of GTA does not depend on releasing it as quickly as possible either. They lose nothing with a 7-month advertising campaign, in fact, they only gain.

7 months??? With Rockstar not saying nothing about GTA V for along time. They will lose the respect of their fans.

[redx165]

QUOTE (Knife @ Monday, Aug 20 2012, 23:25)

QUOTE (Above @ Tuesday, Aug 21 2012, 00:21) They would want to do a short marketing campaign in order to save money after the failed sales of Max Payne 3. The success of GTA V does not depend on marketing. The vault has a bottom and projected earnings have to be met. That doesn't really make sense. A marketing campaign is designed to make money, it'd cost them NOT to do one. Also, magazine previews and announcing the release date doesn't cost them a penny.

If they release it before the Christmas holiday than they would make more money.

[Staten]

QUOTE (redx165 @ Tuesday, Aug 21 2012, 00:26)

QUOTE (Staten @ Monday, Aug 20 2012, 23:25) QUOTE (Above @ Tuesday, Aug 21 2012, 00:21) QUOTE (Knife @ Monday, Aug 20 2012, 23:12) Rockstar DO have to convince people to buy it. Yes, if released tomorrow with no marketing they'd still sell millions of copies. But they'd sell less. It's pretty simple: 6 months of marketing will sell more copies than 1 or 2 months of marketing. It would likely make a difference of tens of millions of dollars. What you've got to ask yourself is, why would Rockstar want to do a short, small marketing campaign for their 'biggest and most ambitious game yet'? What's the benefit? An October release is unrealistic. No, it's not impossible, it's not impossible until it's November. But there is no evidence and it goes completely against all of Rockstars past marketing and marketing for games in general. There's absolutely no reason why Rockstar still wouldn't have announced the release date or the platforms at this point if it was coming out in October. Seriously, I actually can't believe the poll results. Rockstar could spend 2 months just talking about multiplayer and doing previews and play sessions of that. No way will they splurge all the details into a matter of weeks, it'd just be a waste. They would want to do a short marketing campaign in order to save money after the failed sales of Max Payne 3. The success of GTA V does not depend on marketing. The vault has a bottom and projected earnings have to be met. The success of GTA does not depend on releasing it as quickly as possible either. They lose nothing with a 7-month advertising campaign, in fact, they only gain. 7 months??? With Rockstar not saying nothing about GTA V for along time. They will lose the respect of their fans.

Would they? They haven't lost the respect of their fans so far, and it's more than likely that if it were 7 months, they'd be filled with screenshots and previews and trailers, so it wouldn't be like the last 9 months.

[tinman187]

QUOTE (Knife @ Monday, Aug 20 2012, 23:12)

Rockstar DO have to convince people to buy it. Yes, if released tomorrow with no marketing they'd still sell millions of copies. But they'd sell less. It's pretty simple: 6 months of marketing will sell more copies than 1 or 2 months of marketing. It would likely make a difference of tens of millions of dollars. What you've got to ask yourself is, why would Rockstar want to do a short, small marketing campaign for their 'biggest and most ambitious game yet'? What's the benefit? An October release is unrealistic. No, it's not impossible, it's not impossible until it's November. But there is no evidence and it goes completely against all of Rockstars past marketing and marketing for games in general. There's absolutely no reason why Rockstar still wouldn't have announced the release date or the platforms at this point if it was coming out in October. Seriously, I actually can't believe the poll results. Rockstar could spend 2 months just talking about multiplayer and doing previews and play sessions of that. No way will they splurge all the details into a matter of weeks, it'd just be a waste.

Honestly bro, ive tried explaining that to a few and they always come back with the "GTA needs to be released before March because of blah blah blah" lol It's simple, more marketing = more sales. 2 month's of marketing is not good for business.

[Staten]

QUOTE (tinman187 @ Tuesday, Aug 21 2012, 00:31)

QUOTE (Knife @ Monday, Aug 20 2012, 23:12) Rockstar DO have to convince people to buy it. Yes, if released tomorrow with no marketing they'd still sell millions of copies. But they'd sell less. It's pretty simple: 6 months of marketing will sell more copies than 1 or 2 months of marketing. It would likely make a difference of tens of millions of dollars. What you've got to ask yourself is, why would Rockstar want to do a short, small marketing campaign for their 'biggest and most ambitious game yet'? What's the benefit? An October release is unrealistic. No, it's not impossible, it's not impossible until it's November. But there is no evidence and it goes completely against all of Rockstars past marketing and marketing for games in general. There's absolutely no reason why Rockstar still wouldn't have announced the release date or the platforms at this point if it was coming out in October. Seriously, I actually can't believe the poll results. Rockstar could spend 2 months just talking about multiplayer and doing previews and play sessions of that. No way will they splurge all the details into a matter of weeks, it'd just be a waste. Honestly bro, ive tried explaining that to a few and they always come back with the "GTA needs to be released before March because of blah blah blah" lol It's simple, more marketing = more sales. 2 month's of marketing is not good for business.

I think what's behind most of their reasoning is simply a wish that they could have GTA V as soon as possible.

[redx165]

QUOTE (Staten @ Monday, Aug 20 2012, 23:30)

QUOTE (redx165 @ Tuesday, Aug 21 2012, 00:26) QUOTE (Staten @ Monday, Aug 20 2012, 23:25) QUOTE (Above @ Tuesday, Aug 21 2012, 00:21) QUOTE (Knife @ Monday, Aug 20 2012, 23:12) Rockstar DO have to convince people to buy it. Yes, if released tomorrow with no marketing they'd still sell millions of copies. But they'd sell less. It's pretty simple: 6 months of marketing will sell more copies than 1 or 2 months of marketing. It would likely make a difference of tens of millions of dollars. What you've got to ask yourself is, why would Rockstar want to do a short, small marketing campaign for their 'biggest and most ambitious game yet'? What's the benefit? An October release is unrealistic. No, it's not impossible, it's not impossible until it's November. But there is no evidence and it goes completely against all of Rockstars past marketing and marketing for games in general. There's absolutely no reason why Rockstar still wouldn't have announced the release date or the platforms at this point if it was coming out in October. Seriously, I actually can't believe the poll results. Rockstar could spend 2 months just talking about multiplayer and doing previews and play sessions of that. No way will they splurge all the details into a matter of weeks, it'd just be a waste. They would want to do a short marketing campaign in order to save money after the failed sales of Max Payne 3. The success of GTA V does not depend on marketing. The vault has a bottom and projected earnings have to be met. The success of GTA does not depend on releasing it as quickly as possible either. They lose nothing with a 7-month advertising campaign, in fact, they only gain. 7 months??? With Rockstar not saying nothing about GTA V for along time. They will lose the respect of their fans. Would they? They haven't lost the respect of their fans so far, and it's more than likely that if it were 7 months, they'd be filled with screenshots and previews and trailers, so it wouldn't be like the last 9 months.

People will think R* only cares about money. GTA V doesn't need a 7 month marketing. 3 is the longest they should go up too. Plus if the game is almost done why hold it back?? Alot of people lost respect for Rockstar. Look at their youtube page.

[OliRow]

2 months build up? No way.

January 2013 at the earliest, and thats if they start build up pretty soon, I still believe April-May 2013.

[CSM. HB J-DOGG]

QUOTE (Above @ Monday, Aug 20 2012, 22:58)

QUOTE (CSM. HB J-DOGG @ Monday, Aug 20 2012, 22:56) December 18, 2012 lol Too late for Christmas postage.

Im almost positive that most gta fans will get the game on the release date. This game is not for kids most people who will by the game work lol. Now I will say I do allow my kids to play games that some say i shouldnt because I call bs on people who say tv, games ect... influence kids. Thats an excuse for people not parenting and showing there kids the difference between real life . My kids know if they do the things in gta that they will end up dead or in jail..