[Gaunty]

QUOTE (Mamunda @ Friday, Aug 17 2012, 11:32)

QUOTE (Gaunty @ Friday, Aug 17 2012, 11:24) What amazes me is that they are the people that complain about crappy ports to PC - yet crappy ports are done because of the high amount of piracy. Bullf*ck! XBOX 360 has the same amount of piracy as PC. Every new release is automatically on the warez sites in X360 version first. Only PS3 has basically no piracy. So following this logic, PC and X360 games should be ports from PS3 QUOTE Are you aware that they just released a new game-mode yesterday for TF2 that requires you to pay £2 for every multiplayer round you play? Thievery!

Yet, PC is where all of this originated from and is done (in terms of downloading, burning images, ect).

The primary problem for sh*tty ports is the fact that several developers have given-up on even trying to push a lot of money into a game for PC when they can just port it, throw some options in for FOV, resolution and AA.

A reputable developer, such as CD Projekt Red, just doesn't acknowledge the pirates and leaves DRM out of their game all together - resulting in an over-flow of respect for the company and likely increased sales.


And, do note, friend, that what I type is an opinion.

[Killjoy2022]

would you guys consider it piracy if someone downloaded the iso so they could play on a netbook even if they have the game beside them?

OT: why would people pirate something because the wait was too long? what the hell's the point in that?

[noid449]

yes because a lot of the time you seed, or you fuel the need for the download. which also leaves it for the not so honest people out there without the original disk to download.
also if its not on the original site or an official download server from maker of game or alike its pirating.


we all pirate in some way or another ( maybe playing a copied cd in our car of music or record something of the television ) it`s just the ease of access to the files makes it feel more legal. if you had to hack or break into a server then youd say naa thats bad i wouldnt do that but its really the same thing.
im not saying good or bad just my opinion

This post has been edited by noid449 on Friday, Aug 17 2012, 11:49

[Chunk]

The people you were talking to are f*cking idiots.

[gtafanatic360]

most game devs are scum exept r* and maybe bioware but even so pireting games is morlay wrong shame on them

[Freezer89]

QUOTE (Ps3blaze22 @ Friday, Aug 17 2012, 13:27)

QUOTE (Freezer89 @ Friday, Aug 17 2012, 10:56) Valve > most developers/publishers which includes R* Are you aware that they just released a new game-mode yesterday for TF2 that requires you to pay £2 for every multiplayer round you play? I would say CJ Projekt and R* are best in the industry, R* is starting to change though which worries me

Sorry, but I don't believe that. Give me a legit source for this. As far as I know TF2 is free.. yeah, there are items which you can buy but nothing more. This would be beyond ridiculous if you have to pay more than 2€ for every MP match. No, it just can't be.

And R* isn't still the best in industry.. they use DRM, they release few small DLC packages for small price. I don't know how they would be better than Valve where they still update games which are like five years old or more, they release all their DLC for free (at least on PC). About the DRM (steam), yeah.. the only one downside.

This post has been edited by Freezer89 on Friday, Aug 17 2012, 11:52

[gtasadude]

QUOTE (Gaunty @ Friday, Aug 17 2012, 11:37)

A reputable developer, such as CD Projekt Red, just doesn't acknowledge the pirates and leaves DRM out of their game all together - resulting in an over-flow of respect for the company and likely increased sales.

They lost a lot of money to piracy on that game, money which was deservedly theirs after working so hard on the game. Why do you think they brought it to consoles? Not that difficult to port, and it allowed them to make a more stable return on the original investment. Leaving out DRM doesn't increase sales, it simply makes it even easier to pirate the game, and actually incentivises it for those who are too lazy/greedy to buy the game. Using bad DRM can reduce sales, Ubisoft's original DRM for Assassins Creed 2 is a good example, but a simple form of DRM is still necessary. If you can't pirate a game until a few weeks after release, it often convinces people to just buy the game, because it's more convenient than piracy.

Ubisoft succeeded in getting many would-be pirates to buy the game, and accepted reduced sales on the platform as a result. The problem is that they sacrificed usability as well, and legitimate customers suffered. A good example of light DRM is Steamworks. Requires steam to activate, and it's much more convenient than piracy (since it's all digital, the servers are faster, and there's no way you're going to get a virus from Steam). In other words, the only place the DRM argument can survive is in the pool of ignorance, and I wish people wouldn't spread it.

This post has been edited by gtasadude on Friday, Aug 17 2012, 12:01

[ThePinkFloydSound]

I'm not happy with Rockstar and V so far and te way they seem to be handling this. However, doesn't mean I want to steal from them.

[AlexJonesConspiracy]

QUOTE (poncratias @ Friday, Aug 17 2012, 09:24)

So, I recently had a discussion with some gamer comrades at a big Lan party, and all of them have been really mad when we talked about Rockstar. Before it was one of the most beloved game developer studios, but now they are all just pissed off. What interested me the most was that most of them agreed that they don't want to buy GTA V, but rather just piratecopy it. This is an ongoing developement in the gaming communities, and although I understand their frustration over rockstar, I have to ask: Is this really a good way to show it? How about this community here? (though I don't think any of you would admit it)

they all need to be executed, you are the one to do this young one. execute them and show no mercy when doing it.

[rodneythesavior]

QUOTE (Mamunda @ Friday, Aug 17 2012, 03:32)

Only PS3 has basically no piracy.

Blatant fanboyism is blatant. PS3 has the just as much piracy as PC/Xbox.
You can't say it doesn't happen. It's like saying you can't mod on the PS3.

[noid449]

"they all need to be executed, you are the one to do this young one. execute them and show no mercy when doing it. "

accessory to murder

This post has been edited by noid449 on Friday, Aug 17 2012, 12:00

[Mokrie Dela]

QUOTE (Mamunda @ Friday, Aug 17 2012, 11:27)

Yeah, I play FIFA 12 online , and there is constant problem with connecting to the opponent. You can't connect like 70-80% of the time. Also there are often situations when the game disconnects when you make a substitute, and a game automatically gives you 0-3 defeat then. I played FIFA 11 and it was the same! They didn't fix it

Exactly.

And thats not about to change, and thats one reason why piracy will stay around.

Hopefully things will get so bad they will realised that they're raping their "fans"

(i dont think anyone in the world is an EA fan )

[bud23]

The question is, Why R* has long gaps between its games?

1)They want make the best game possible.
2)They just want f*ck their fans.

The easy choice is to launch a new game each year, as EA or ACTIVISION do .

You earn more money annualizing your franchises and releasing an update of the previous game, year after year, but at the end what EA or ACTIVISION do is to take advantage of the loyalty of its fans and sell to them the "same thing" every year.

Honestly, I want play the best game possible, if Rockstar need 5 years to do it for me it´s perfect. I will buy a legit copy.

This post has been edited by bud23 on Friday, Aug 17 2012, 12:42

[niko bellic half brother]

I'll be buying V on day of release, as I want the holy grail in my Xbox quicker than I'd want my dick in Megan Fox's tight little gussit. But unlike most people here (who probably download music for free without a second thought) I'm not going to attack you friends as I can understand the frustration.

[Killjoy2022]

QUOTE (noid449 @ Friday, Aug 17 2012, 11:45)

yes because a lot of the time you seed, or you fuel the need for the download. which also leaves it for the not so honest people out there without the original disk to download. also if its not on the original site or an official download server from maker of game or alike its pirating. we all pirate in some way or another ( maybe playing a copied cd in our car of music or record something of the television ) it`s just the ease of access to the files makes it feel more legal. if you had to hack or break into a server then youd say naa thats bad i wouldnt do that but its really the same thing. im not saying good or bad just my opinion

well the guy i was talking about i've known for a while but his netbook had no disk tray, but i made sure he cancelled the seeding.

[Ferocious Banger]

Well in India,98% of the people pirate everything.Just like how pirated music is prevalent on America.

I only buy games from R*

[tinman187]

The people who wanna pirate GTA V because they are angry to me are weirdo's lol Sorry to offend those, but that's just straight up weird.

[xzxxsicko]

Piracy rocks , f*ck you all !
How many game companies have been closed because of piracy ? none

[ccrogers15]

People who pirate are just idiots. They hurt the developer but in the end, if there a fan, they hurt themselves. Fans who pirate, will be the one most butthurt when the developer dont make a sequel because the last game got pirated to much.

[Master of San Andreas]

QUOTE (Ferocious Banger @ Friday, Aug 17 2012, 13:09)

Well in India,98% of the people pirate everything.Just like how pirated music is prevalent on America. I only buy games from R*

Yeah, especially cricket games


I Live in india too..