[Chunkyman]

QUOTE (gtamann123 @ Wednesday, Aug 29 2012, 02:16)

I have talked to my friends who have had sex and they say it isn't that much better than a good fap can be. I cant say im not curious but it isn't worth screwing a whore just to find out.

What if indeed is worth screwing a whore just to find out?

[gtamann123]

QUOTE (Chunkyman @ Wednesday, Aug 29 2012, 02:33)

QUOTE (gtamann123 @ Wednesday, Aug 29 2012, 02:16) I have talked to my friends who have had sex and they say it isn't that much better than a good fap can be. I cant say im not curious but it isn't worth screwing a whore just to find out. What if indeed is worth screwing a whore just to find out?

Haha I just wouldn't do it. I legitimately do know a girl who would and shes not bad looking or anything its just that shes been with like 20 guys including my best friend lol. I just couldn't do it out of respect for myself and it just wouldn't feel right losing my virginity to a girl like that. I would rather be a virgin forever than stoop down to a whore.

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So you're either with a whore or a super attractive girl who you also happen to be in love with? There's no middle ground for you? Maybe you really do need to lower your standards, bro.

The problem is i really don't think I could achieve the middle ground. I am only on the low end of average looking on my best day and really don't have much to offer in terms of personality since im just not that interesting of a person. Me and most of my friends are pretty nerdy. I play sports but im not any good. So i just cant compete with the attractive guys out there and could never get a girl that I feel is good enough for me. So its either lower my standards and be with a girl that i am not happy with or just be forever single and and find something to make me happy and satisfied in life. I think the choice is obvious

This post has been edited by gtamann123 on Wednesday, Aug 29 2012, 02:42

[Irviding]

I don't know. I feel like I'm out of line in trying to change your life outlook, but then again, who gives a f*ck it's the internet. I think you have some thought in your head that you've come to terms with your lack of attractiveness and lack of possibility to ever have sex. You think that makes you liberated and powerful, but it just doesn't. You're finding a way to avoid pursuing relationships... everyone can get a girlfriend man. The ugliest f*cker out there can find a girl someday, and I doubt you're that ugly. I just have a feeling you're not a bad looking guy, you just have low confidence in yourself.

QUOTE

I have talked to my friends who have had sex and they say it isn't that much better than a good fap can be. I cant say im not curious but it isn't worth screwing a whore just to find out.

Your friends are either A) lying to you to make you feel like you're not missing anything B) lying about having sex C) had sex with girls who have no clue what they're doing D) have no clue what they're doing themselves with a girl

[gtamann123]

QUOTE (Irviding @ Wednesday, Aug 29 2012, 03:33)

I don't know. I feel like I'm out of line in trying to change your life outlook, but then again, who gives a f*ck it's the internet. I think you have some thought in your head that you've come to terms with your lack of attractiveness and lack of possibility to ever have sex. You think that makes you liberated and powerful, but it just doesn't. You're finding a way to avoid pursuing relationships... everyone can get a girlfriend man. The ugliest f*cker out there can find a girl someday, and I doubt you're that ugly. I just have a feeling you're not a bad looking guy, you just have low confidence in yourself. QUOTE I have talked to my friends who have had sex and they say it isn't that much better than a good fap can be. I cant say im not curious but it isn't worth screwing a whore just to find out. Your friends are either A) lying to you to make you feel like you're not missing anything B) lying about having sex C) had sex with girls who have no clue what they're doing D) have no clue what they're doing themselves with a girl

I guess you may be right but I just don't feel like trying to get something that's near impossible to get. Sure it's possible but highly unlikely so I don't think it would be a good idea to waste time pursuing something impossible. If it happens it happens but I'm not going to waste time going after it lol. I would rather just spend my time pursuing something I could achieve.

And I don't think they are lying about having sex. Because it would be a pretty elaborate lie to include their girlfriends as well.

[Irviding]

QUOTE (gtamann123 @ Tuesday, Aug 28 2012, 23:46)

QUOTE (Irviding @ Wednesday, Aug 29 2012, 03:33) I don't know. I feel like I'm out of line in trying to change your life outlook, but then again, who gives a f*ck it's the internet. I think you have some thought in your head that you've come to terms with your lack of attractiveness and lack of possibility to ever have sex. You think that makes you liberated and powerful, but it just doesn't. You're finding a way to avoid pursuing relationships... everyone can get a girlfriend man. The ugliest f*cker out there can find a girl someday, and I doubt you're that ugly. I just have a feeling you're not a bad looking guy, you just have low confidence in yourself. QUOTE I have talked to my friends who have had sex and they say it isn't that much better than a good fap can be. I cant say im not curious but it isn't worth screwing a whore just to find out. Your friends are either A) lying to you to make you feel like you're not missing anything B) lying about having sex C) had sex with girls who have no clue what they're doing D) have no clue what they're doing themselves with a girl I guess you may be right but I just don't feel like trying to get something that's near impossible to get. Sure it's possible but highly unlikely so I don't think it would be a good idea to waste time pursuing something impossible. If it happens it happens but I'm not going to waste time going after it lol. I would rather just spend my time pursuing something I could achieve. And I don't think they are lying about having sex. Because it would be a pretty elaborate lie to include their girlfriends as well.

But you can achieve it. You just need to actually try. My best friend is f*cking crazy with girls. He's good looking definitely, I will admit, but no prince charming. He will literally walk up to 20 girls and get slapped until 1 of them falls for his crap, then he nails her. I don't do that sh*t but it's just an example of self confidence. You can't be afraid of rejection. I'm not a relationship doctor or anything but I've heard one of the things they tell people to do is go and ask out a bunch of ugly girls to build your confidence and slowly build up to good looking ones. It seems a little unnecessarily orchestrated to me but you might as well give it a shot. It's better than resigning yourself to never getting laid or never getting a girlfriend. It's one of those things where the saying "you gotta want it" comes in. You won't get it if you don't want it, and frankly it's strange that you don't want it. You should want it.

Well then maybe it's one of the other 3 possibilities

[gtamann123]

QUOTE (Irviding @ Wednesday, Aug 29 2012, 03:51)

QUOTE (gtamann123 @ Tuesday, Aug 28 2012, 23:46) QUOTE (Irviding @ Wednesday, Aug 29 2012, 03:33) I don't know. I feel like I'm out of line in trying to change your life outlook, but then again, who gives a f*ck it's the internet. I think you have some thought in your head that you've come to terms with your lack of attractiveness and lack of possibility to ever have sex. You think that makes you liberated and powerful, but it just doesn't. You're finding a way to avoid pursuing relationships... everyone can get a girlfriend man. The ugliest f*cker out there can find a girl someday, and I doubt you're that ugly. I just have a feeling you're not a bad looking guy, you just have low confidence in yourself. QUOTE I have talked to my friends who have had sex and they say it isn't that much better than a good fap can be. I cant say im not curious but it isn't worth screwing a whore just to find out. Your friends are either A) lying to you to make you feel like you're not missing anything B) lying about having sex C) had sex with girls who have no clue what they're doing D) have no clue what they're doing themselves with a girl I guess you may be right but I just don't feel like trying to get something that's near impossible to get. Sure it's possible but highly unlikely so I don't think it would be a good idea to waste time pursuing something impossible. If it happens it happens but I'm not going to waste time going after it lol. I would rather just spend my time pursuing something I could achieve. And I don't think they are lying about having sex. Because it would be a pretty elaborate lie to include their girlfriends as well. But you can achieve it. You just need to actually try. My best friend is f*cking crazy with girls. He's good looking definitely, I will admit, but no prince charming. He will literally walk up to 20 girls and get slapped until 1 of them falls for his crap, then he nails her. I don't do that sh*t but it's just an example of self confidence. You can't be afraid of rejection. I'm not a relationship doctor or anything but I've heard one of the things they tell people to do is go and ask out a bunch of ugly girls to build your confidence and slowly build up to good looking ones. It seems a little unnecessarily orchestrated to me but you might as well give it a shot. It's better than resigning yourself to never getting laid or never getting a girlfriend. It's one of those things where the saying "you gotta want it" comes in. You won't get it if you don't want it, and frankly it's strange that you don't want it. You should want it. Well then maybe it's one of the other 3 possibilities

I get what your saying. But I don't want to ask out ugly girls because I would feel like an A*s for asking them out if I have no interest in them. And its just that I think I could live happily without it so then there's no point in jumping through all these hoops for it. If I had to go way out of my way for it then is it worth it?

[BiggT]

QUOTE (LazyboyEight @ Thursday, Aug 16 2012, 08:15)

Yes. But wait, there's more. Before you go "hahahaha lazyboy has no life hahaha hurr durr" That's true, to an extent, but it's cause I'm 13. And I don't see myself getting a girlfriend with my poor communication skills And why are you interested I must ask? Trying to find some fresh cock?

Same here I gave a girl my number while is was on a trip but I forty to put a 1 in front of it cause we gt dif area codes she live by my aunt I'm pissed

I was pretty sure she liked me she told me to take off my shirt tried to pull me in the pull and she was gorchise

[johnny_zoo]

_____ let me know how things on your end are going.


Well the girl(Sophie) has returned from the Fringe festival after 2 weeks. I went in today with the intention of fanning the flames of our friendship. Dousing that kindling in petrol sitting back and enjoying the warmth that would be us hand in hand sooner or later. Yeah that didn't pan out.

Here some context to understand it better; lots of people come by her desk everyday but Im the only "customer" so to speak that comes to her desk and talks to her like friends do. We've done this for weeks now. She even teased me before she left "Are you gonna miss me?" "I said "You're damn right woman!" Ok I sheepishly said "Yes I will." Anything and everything we talk about, life, news, jobs, hobbies etc. Heres where I thought we clicked even more today however. After a while... she rebuffs my barrage of questions with

"What do you do when you get home?",

I reply jokingly,"You know, internet, TV... gtaforums". "You wouldn't know what that is though."

And she goes "Yes, Grand Theft Auto" and tells me what a great game it was. "My faves were the 'top down ones'." she beams. (We're both 23/24 now)

So we reminicse innocent naughties about what a great game it was, stealing cars and stuff all the while Im thinking she couldnt get more awesome. Heres what I dont get. We spoke on/off for about two and a half hours. She seems to enjoy my company, said we have great convos, she let me touch her bracelet, we joked around, I hung around her desk every chance that was available so much so she must know Im attracted to her in some way because I wouldnt talk to her so much about random stuff. She hasnt shown she dislikes me at all. If she didnt like me she wouldnt respond to my friendliness and random convos right?

To be honest we got on great today (exceeded my expectations ). Near closing time I then bit my lip, grabbed my fruit basket and asked if I could have her number. She says no.

"It's the whole job thing... Your're a student Im a recpetionist." "I don't talk to people on my phone." she smiles.

I'm not just "people" woman you know my name!!

Im assuming she means the 'perimeters' of where our 'relationship', you could say, was conceived. Which was a 'receptionist', and 'client' circumstance so I get where she's coming from. Although I think its not a big deal, I mean she doesn't work in Goldman Sachs or something were not power-brokers working together just a boy and a girl that have now finished uni. Its just a small uni reception desk. We are 23 years old. We're pretty much still kids in my eyes. Anyway even though she said No, there was no awkwardness afterwards and she was still just as friendly as ever. Even more strangely neither was I crushed, much to my surprise. As I left I felt there's still that glimmer of hope. Like when you're in a dark tunnel and you dont give up searching your way out because you see a small glint of light in the distance.

In summary I completely dont get women at all. I thought it was all going so well. (I didnt even give her the bday card, my gut instinct said don't do it )

I need perspective on this. Is she being nice to me becasue she's just a nice person? Does she not value or convo's? What if I met her outside our 'perimieters' would she have said yes? There was no reason not to really that I can see. I still want to pursue her in a joking way though and maybe she'll come around. I heard that girls can find the right amount of persistence flattering. Or do you think I should call it quits with her? Just what is going on?

This post has been edited by johnny_zoo on Wednesday, Aug 29 2012, 20:07

[Irviding]

It seems like she liked the attention from you while she was working. There could be some policy where she's not allowed to date other students but I doubt it... she might just not be interested.

[_____]

Yeah, I believe girls can be (too) nice sometimes for no apparent reason but it's not an exclusively female thing.

That sucks but it could have been worse I guess. If you really like this girl I'd say definitely keep in touch with her and stay interested at least for a while. Something may come out of it eventually.
By the way, how do you know that she is single? Her reason seems kind of odd to me.

[EscoLehGo]

When she denied you her number did she make a face and say "sorrrrry" in some weird high pitched baby voice?

[johnny_zoo]

QUOTE (Irviding @ Wednesday, Aug 29 2012, 21:06)

It seems like she liked the attention from you while she was working. There could be some policy where she's not allowed to date other students but I doubt it... she might just not be interested.

Yes I think that's it. Maybe I need to make her want me and not go after her but that seems extremely hard to do for some reason.

QUOTE (_______ @ Wednesday, Aug 29 2012, 21:15)

Yeah, I believe girls can be (too) nice sometimes for no apparent reason but it's not an exclusively female thing. That sucks but it could have been worse I guess. If you really like this girl I'd say definitely keep in touch with her and stay interested at least for a while. Something may come out of it eventually. By the way, how do you know that she is single? Her reason seems kind of odd to me.

Yeah it could have been worse. I'm happy that I could go in again on Friday maybe and still talk to her like its no big deal. 3 weeks ago she said she was away at a festival, when I first met her, and I asked did you go with your boyfriend and she said no just friends. Im 100% sure she has not got a BF since then. Today I steered the topic towards BF's once again and I'm pretty sure she looked down as she knew where I was going... I think its the whole giving you number to people at work which is off putting. I asked her what if we met outside here and she laughed and said "Ahh good point!" but I didnt push it any further.

QUOTE (EschoLehGo @ Wednesday, Aug 29 2012, 21:22)

When she denied you her number did she make a face and say "sorrrrry" in some weird high pitched baby voice?

Nahh she just said, "You asked me this before." But she never gave a legitimate 'reason' until today. She was chilled out when she said it, she seems not to want to give out her number or FB addy at work. Atleast I hope its that and not just because its me.

[EscoLehGo]

QUOTE (johnny_zoo @ Wednesday, Aug 29 2012, 22:01)

QUOTE (EschoLehGo @ Wednesday, Aug 29 2012, 21:22) When she denied you her number did she make a face and say "sorrrrry" in some weird high pitched baby voice? Nahh she just said, "You asked me this before." But she never gave a legitimate 'reason' until today. She was chilled out when she said it, she seems not to want to give out her number or FB addy at work. Atleast I hope its that and not just because its me.

Oh yea dude plenty, if she said it in a "cutesy" way then that let's you know she's not taking you and your advances very seriously. Did you try to persuade her more after she gave that work reason or did you just say "Ok." and give up?

[johnny_zoo]

QUOTE (EscoLehGo @ Wednesday, Aug 29 2012, 22:06)

QUOTE (johnny_zoo @ Wednesday, Aug 29 2012, 22:01) QUOTE (EschoLehGo @ Wednesday, Aug 29 2012, 21:22) When she denied you her number did she make a face and say "sorrrrry" in some weird high pitched baby voice? Nahh she just said, "You asked me this before." But she never gave a legitimate 'reason' until today. She was chilled out when she said it, she seems not to want to give out her number or FB addy at work. Atleast I hope its that and not just because its me. Oh yea dude plenty, if she said it in a "cutesy" way then that let's you know she's not taking you and your advances very seriously. Did you try to persuade her more after she gave that work reason or did you just say "Ok." and give up?

No not alot of persuasion. She never said it cutesy just casually as if no big deal. I didnt want to seem pushy or desperate so played it cool. I only asked jokingly what if we met outside here what would you say? And she never replied categorically yes or no just giggled "ahh! good point." I decided to let it lie and not push her too far for an answer. We said our goodbyes and I left. But I departed dragging behind me a small remnant of hope.

[EscoLehGo]

Do you know if she has a man or not?

[Dollarhide]

Yes.
In Medieval times I'd be the f*cking man!

[Big Remi]

I'm still a virgin at almost 25, but not really ashamed of it. Obviously, I'm not in any rush to just lose it to some random slut, I want my first time to be with somebody I truly care about.

[johnny_zoo]

QUOTE (EscoLehGo @ Wednesday, Aug 29 2012, 22:38)

Do you know if she has a man or not?

No she doesn't have a man.

[Ferocious Banger]

At last, I have felt the feel of boobies. Does that count as loss of virginity?

[_____]

^ Good for you. How did that happen?