[CookPassBabtridge]

QUOTE (kid23455 @ Wednesday, Aug 15 2012, 21:00)

No, it's they don't want to show everything of their game. Because it's their f*cking game and they'll show us what they want to. Stop demanding more information. Whenever I find out too much about a game, I enjoy it less than I feel I should when it comes out. If I didn't know Max Payne 3 had bullet time, I would've been like, "WHOA sh*t BULLET TIME THAT'S SICK", instead I said, "Oh, that's pretty cool."

Its a games company, not a clan of ninjas. If they want it to sell well, they have to show what people are paying their money for.

Plus, why do people keep falling for this 'not showing too much' PR spin? They havent shown jack, lets be real.

[Borras81]

I think the reason for the lack of info is a combination of both the trailer being released far to early ( I agree with the theory they released it as a sneaky way to get people to notice MP3 ) and also development issues, so yes they might be telling the truth when they say they have nothing to show yet. I don't think they originally intended to wait this long before telling us more, but there's no way on earth they'd admit to development problems because it would be negative publicity......so although I agree with this topic we'll never know the truth !

[mrsurferdude]

QUOTE (CookPassBabtridge @ Wednesday, Aug 15 2012, 21:04)

QUOTE (kid23455 @ Wednesday, Aug 15 2012, 21:00) No, it's they don't want to show everything of their game. Because it's their f*cking game and they'll show us what they want to. Stop demanding more information. Whenever I find out too much about a game, I enjoy it less than I feel I should when it comes out. If I didn't know Max Payne 3 had bullet time, I would've been like, "WHOA sh*t BULLET TIME THAT'S SICK", instead I said, "Oh, that's pretty cool." Its a games company, not a clan of ninjas. If they want it to sell well, they have to show what people are paying their money for. Plus, why do people keep falling for this 'not showing too much' PR spin? They havent shown jack, lets be real.

However...that'd be so sick if they were game devs/ninjas. i can even imagine their business card...... LOL

[canttakemyid]

QUOTE (ClaudeSpeedRulez @ Wednesday, Aug 15 2012, 16:26)

Are you kidding me? The trailer was incomplete as f*ck, there was so many incomplete buildings and others landmarks that not even had textures yet.

What proof do you have that the trailer was the most current footage for it's time? The game had to be pretty near done for them to hire QA testers a couple of months later.

I say that they were putting on finishing touches at the beginning of the year. Finishing touches can just mean a lot for a game of this size.

[36Chambers]

QUOTE (Carl CJ Johnsons Brother Brian @ Wednesday, Aug 15 2012, 20:35)

Before GTA IV was delayed Rockstar announced a game with the name Agent. The game was developed by Rockstar North. That was in 2007 and in 2009 they gave us first info and a release date for October 2009 was announced. But then something went wrong. Either the game is cancelled or it's a PS4 exclusive now. So the earliest possible start of V's developement in my opinion was fall 2009/very early 2010. I just wanted to make this clear. Anyway for the people who said GTA V trailer looked like incompleted: Please show me some incompleted scenes. The trailer is the evidence that GTA V isn't far away. That was 9 months ago so we can say that GTA V is in one of the very latest development stages. Unless there are some heavy developement problems which I doubt because Rockstar already made GTA IV and Red Dead Redemption which were big open-world games.

Where the black convertible speeds by, look in the background, the streets/map are incomplete. There were a couple of other incomplete parts but I just cant pull them off the top of my head.
I do agree with you however. Development started right after GTA IV, its been nearly a year since the trailer was released, and the two screenshots show that the map is basically done. If they could just release more screenshots or just some form of information, I'd be happy.

EDIT: And I think the reason why GTA IV took so long to develop is because Rockstar was working with a completely new game engine. I understand that GTA V's map is apparently huge, but at this point it should be practically done.

This post has been edited by 36Chambers on Wednesday, Aug 15 2012, 21:20

[Sean5]

QUOTE (t9kane @ Wednesday, Aug 15 2012, 20:10)

Good.

Why would you even type that? To get your post count up or something? that's just useless spam.
OT: Maybe they're taking apples technique, going to keep quiet until they have it completely done. Make the masses piss their pants.

[Above]

If that statement represents the truth then I hope it has something to do with what they said about not spoiling the game.

[Shockenheim]

QUOTE (Above @ Wednesday, Aug 15 2012, 21:57)

If that statement represents the truth then I hope it has something to do with what they said about not spoiling the game.

Or the game is not as finished as we all thought it would.

[Above]

QUOTE (Shockenheim @ Wednesday, Aug 15 2012, 21:57)

QUOTE (Above @ Wednesday, Aug 15 2012, 21:57) If that statement represents the truth then I hope it has something to do with what they said about not spoiling the game. Or the game is not as finished as we all thought it would.

And that's what I hope is wrong.

[theworldfamous]

QUOTE (tejasm @ Wednesday, Aug 15 2012, 20:07)

What if the game is nowhere near completion and definitely far away from launch? The trailer may look complete but there's always the possibility that the game is so vast that they've only shown us what looks remotely presentable. What if they aren't giving us platforms,plot details or protagonists because the stage of development they're at,any of those can change? Perhaps we need to believe R* when they say that "we have nothing to show right now"? By this point I don't think V will come out before June '13 (FY14). T2 Will simply adjust their Earnings estimate to account for this. I HOPE I'M WRONG THOUGH!

Normally I would totally agree with you.. but this time it's different. I can give you a million reasons why, and they're pretty good, but in the end why should you believe them?

[odiomoratti]

nha....voice actor curriculum has been leaked a long time ago.....testers has been hired by R* in January. A Trailer has been shown 9 months ago.
The R* marketing usually lasts 6 months....the release date 90% is in march/april....so info and other stuff will come out in late September.

The game in not completed, but i'm sure it's far from the intial stage.

[BlackLightning]

Come on, that is such bullsh*t. If the game was that far off, then they know that right now. And thus, they would have had the adjusted numbers last month.

[theworldfamous]

they hardly show anything GTA ever.. so I believe that statement. With IV it was a couple of trailers, a couple of screenshots and a site, that was it right up to release. There is never going to be a motherload of info, just a couple of teasers.

[Mokrie Dela]

QUOTE (BlackLightning @ Wednesday, Aug 15 2012, 22:56)

Come on, that is such bullsh*t. If the game was that far off, then they know that right now. And thus, they would have had the adjusted numbers last month.

Your sig makes me question why your on this forum

Speaking as a writer though, when you create something, it's delicate and fragile. I uploaded a chapter of my fan fic, justice in flames, a day or two before the trailer, yet the story was only 5% written, if that.
If that chapter got bad reception, I would have been crushed. The story would have suffered. My point? When you make something and show it off, if it's not finished it's delicate and can easily be damaged by feedback. So, you release a little bit an work on the rest. If you released too much, the creative process would be ruined and you'd end up with no drive.

I disagree with the lack of information R* are giving us but as someone who has created things, I can see it from their point of view. They gave us what was ready for us and what we were ready for. The demand was high and we got a trailer but so many people are bitching about the lack of info - are you really that spoilt? Get over it because newsflash, rockstar are it going speed it up for you

[theworldfamous]

don't show it off when it's not finished then... that's looking for praise when your work is not finished. I guess that's what rockstar does with GTA.

[BlackNoise]

QUOTE (ClaudeSpeedRulez @ Wednesday, Aug 15 2012, 20:26)

Are you kidding me? The trailer was incomplete as f*ck, there was so many incomplete buildings and others landmarks that not even had textures yet.

What are you talking about? For one, if you think that trailer was "incomplete as f*ck" then you're hoping for a game R* wont provide. And what buildings and landmarks didn't have textures? Did you even watch the trailer? They wouldn't even release a trailer if it was as bad as you described it.

[superhobo666]

We'll probably start seeing some more trickling bits of info closer to september, and they'll likely have a GI cover for Sept/October/November. with a release of Feb/March. Still keeps them insdide the last Quarter of financial year 2012. And could boost the end of T2s year end profit prediction. I can't see them boasting such a massive fiscal year over MP3, and Bioshock Infinite. I'm willing to bet MP3 hasn't even broken even yet, and Bioshock wouldn't cary enough weight to make up for that, It's not that popular of a series. I think they are holding their card deck until they put out a GI cover, and I'm sure they do not want to give out a release date, after the bad rep they got for having to change release dates for both GTA IV, and MP3. we might even get to see a gameplay trailer launch at the same time as a gameinformer cover if we get lucky. and we may well see a GTAV A&A in September, where I'm sure they will explain some part of the lack of info.


Even if they put the trailer out ahead to get attention to MP3 (which worked) and where going to market GTA after MP3 and some of the DLC was done, but then hit a snag with MP3 being delayed, so they probably had to change up their marketing to move around the MP3 delay. which is why we saw a later then expected MP3 A&A, with a little bit of GTA info + the two sceenshots to appease the angry GTA fans, I would have liked them to give some sort of reasoning for the way they acted, but I don't see them announcing info like that.

[mdgrncw]

From the trailer there is no possible way to determine how far along the game actually is. No part of the trailer has gameplay, its all cut scenes. There are so many aspects to building a game that no one seems to realise. When rockstar said its going to be a while then people should take it for what it is. Play GTA4 again if you can't wait. Do something to occupy your time. It's been almost a year, I'm sure another year won't kill any of you.

[Black Sunshine]

QUOTE (mdgrncw @ Wednesday, Aug 15 2012, 23:45)

From the trailer there is no possible way to determine how far along the game actually is. No part of the trailer has gameplay, its all cut scenes. There are so many aspects to building a game that no one seems to realise. When rockstar said its going to be a while then people should take it for what it is. Play GTA4 again if you can't wait. Do something to occupy your time. It's been almost a year, I'm sure another year won't kill any of you.

Rockstar actually confirmed that the trailer was ENTIRELY gameplay. Sorry.

[gta_aus]

I think something has gone horribly wrong with the development.