[Boss Falcone]

Moderators and Admins read through every post and look what everybody is saying we want them back.

I will be starting this by talking about the GFX Rules. The Graphic section has become a Absolute Joke. When the rules were there everything was going ok people weren’t making requests after requests. Now it is 4 requests a day by one person also sometimes when people don’t get reply’s to their requests they start getting angry and start using the F Word.

I have been noticing that people can’t even follow the simplest rule ever bump your topic after 3 days come on guys seriously you people are that impatient if you are get your own software.

I asked Don Bianco This question this is what he said.

Do you think the rules should come back for the GFX Section?
- There's not a doubt in my mind that the rules should come back. Without them the GFX section has become worse than the Gang section.

In the Gang section There is a topic called Weazel News. Alot of people are saying they want the Rules back.

No offence people are taking advantage Narcis_speed6 says bump your topic after 3 days they still don't listen.

Also the GFX Artists they have lives they sleep eat and work.

They do the requests on their own terms I know but if they Graphic section carry's on like this they will be no artists.

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and I QUOTE Southern comfort  We might as well close the damn request area if nothing is going to be done.

so please Admins think about it.

QUOTE (Southern Comfort @ Friday, Aug 10 2012, 08:58)

I've heard that line before but the next step is we simply voice our complaints out loud. Rules are needed there or eventually all of the designers will get up and leave. He can do something about it, he is the forum leader. Simply add more rules, he is the sole moderator of the forum and he has to enforce his section of the forum some way. When push comes to shove you push right the hell back! What is the point in even having a moderator there if he is prevented from doing anything?! I can't get my point across any clearer, official rules need to be put in place or it'll turn out just to be another avoided place on the forum. It's simple, put rules in and the dark cloud above the request section will be gone!

This is when some requested the rules came back/ Vertical limit.

http://www.gtaforums.com/index.php?showtop...17&hl=GFX+Rules

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I QUOTE Blitz said this A real f*cking shame that is, things were going way smoother with the rules. Oh well.

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I QUOTE AJBNS87 Said Good to see the section being firmly controlled and topics getting locked/ - This was because of the rules.

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I QUOTE SMC12 Yeah, they were badly needed. I remember the GFX section used to be full of artists willing to do requests, but then it just got overloaded with impatient and ungrateful people. Everyone will probably complain it's too strict now, but that section is better already.  - That's when the rules were there.

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And I QUOTE Southern comfort I am aware of the old rules and I am not sure why they were trashed (or if they are still in effect and you are not enforcing them) as they would clean all of this mess up in a matter of days! Sure we do complain about the section going down, but that's because nothing is being done to stop it from falling! We try and fulfill as many graphics requests as we can and help the section grow, transforming the topics into a Yahoo messenger topic is just a side effect of absolutely no rules put in place.

If you would like to see the quote on southern comfort go to gang section Weazel news page 4.

How would you feel admins and moderators if you were an artist and people didn't listen to you or did so many requests and started using f words and not bumping the topic every 3 days.

You moderators get frustrated when one of the rules is broken in the gang section.

How do you think the artists feel they have to suck up and do the Requests.

REMEMBER THEY DON'T GET PAID and I know you guys don't get paid to but come on at least have some sympathy for them.

In return you could at least put the rules for them.


Thanks for reading.

This post has been edited by Boss Falcone on Friday, Aug 10 2012, 11:30

[AndyGanteks]

I believe that's up to the GFX section led-by's to decide

[Narcis_speed6]

Nope is not, I already decided 200 times that rules should be in place.

edit: and yes I vote for it once again.

This post has been edited by Narcis_speed6 on Friday, Aug 10 2012, 10:48

[xMilSpecRedneck]

You got my vote!

I do believe there should be a permanent set of rules in placed for the graphic section.
There are many clear problems that could be quickly solved by a couple rules.

Here is another forums I am registered to, that is used for resources on zetaboards forums.
They have a very simple and yet affective rule system set up on there forums and I'm
not saying gta forums needs the same system but if you look at there requests, they
get done quick and affective!

FYI: The forums is called Outlineforums.com and the link below will direct you to the gfx rules.
[Request Limits]
[Requestion Information & Prices]
[Refunds]

[Boss Falcone]

Thank you for your vote.

[ajbns87]

I used to visit the GFX section just to admire the skills and work of the kind GFX artists, now I go and see around half a page of new topics everyday, and usually the same people requesting stuff constantly.

How to solve it? Here's my suggestion (it's harsh, but fair)

Bring back the rules, and enforce them strictly.
e.g.

If "TommySpammer."..posts a request, that doesn't receive a reply after 6 hours, decides to bump it or re-posts another topics before 3 days / 72 hours have passed - 3 day ban.
If "TommySpammer." returns and decides to do the same sh*t again - Perma-ban.

or if "TommySpammer" creates two topics in less than 7 days a part, 3 day ban.

Add the rules to the banner that appears at the topic of the page too, so there are no excuses.

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Secondly this wouldn't be such a problem, if the Gang Section had the option of creating a new topic removed (Like the Announcements sub-section)...already existing gangs would be strengthened and if a gang did decide to join the forum (and not just some idiot who want's a new gang and GFX every week-month *cough*Josh Stamper*cough*) they could post in a topic called "Want to make a Gang"....giving the ledby's the chance to permit a topic being created.... (sorry it's a suggestion I've made before, but I think the problem is directly related to the GFX request section issue of spam)

[Boss Falcone]

Thank you Very Much for that ajbns87.

It is true before it used to be relaxed now it is bloody worse then the gang section.

[shiva s]

You have my vote. I want it to be implemented as well.

[Boss Falcone]

QUOTE (shiva s @ Friday, Aug 10 2012, 10:54)

You have my vote. I want it to be implemented as well.

Thanks shiva

[sorv]

Yes i appreciate you Falcone.I vote yes.

[Dr. John13]

Let me also vote for you. I don't go for much requests but still I don't want that ghetto to tear apart.

[Boss Falcone]

Thanks alot Guys keep the votes coming in.

[KaRzY6]

You have my vote. I totally agree. The requesters think that we have to do it. Not that I take that many requests, but when I have a look in the section, most of the requesters have no manners and don't realise we do this for fun, we don't get paid.

[Narcis_speed6]

Let me add a few quotes from the staff room.

QUOTE (Mark)

Sounds good to me. You guys ain't their personal work force.

QUOTE (Tyler)

It's gotta get annoying to basically get the same requests over and over from kids asking for CONCEPT SHTUFF.

QUOTE (*MURDOC* )

Hell yeah, good proposal dude! I was getting tired of seeing you guys get used.

[Boss Falcone]

Keep the votes and opinion coming in.

[miromiro]

I'm also giving out my vote here. It's possibly one of the most tiring parts of the forum (excluding the GTA V one), so yeah, time to slow things down.

[Boss Falcone]

We have 13 votes keep them coming.

Thanks everybody

[xMilSpecRedneck]

What I think would be the most affective:

1. Have a format that member requesting the graphic must use. This would clear up all the questions that people may have on how they want
the graphic constructed. Some people post less then a sentence with no detail and its pretty hard to please them with out complainants.
(of course they would need a format for different graphics ex. gif. avatars, signatures, large gang or event requests)

2. I really do believe one person should only be allowed to make so many requests per day or week. Of course graphic artists is doing this
as a volunteer service towards the forums and most members take advantage of them and there work. Every one here has a
personal life and some one graphic request for there gang sometimes can't be on there priority list.

3. Graphics request's should only be made if the graphic is for use on the GTA Forums. Again you see many people taking advantage of the
gfx artist for there own website or just some type of external site. All over the forums there are rules for no external links or advertising external gang
so I think it should be the same for graphics. There are many different forums that provide services for people who are making there own forums or
websites (outlineforums.com and resources.zetaboards.com).

Theses are just three of the biggest problems I see and my suggestions. I highly agree of the strict bumping rules and
all of suggestions from everyone else. I just hope this is one of the suggestions that staff really implements on the forums.

[Boss Falcone]

I agree with the post above.

[Mr. Reaper.]

Here's my two cents.

This forum has many sections and each section has it's led-by's.

The led-by's everywhere else seem to be able to lead their way, within reason of course.

So let the GFX Led-by's do it.

Worse comes to worst and you simply remove it.

So this had my vote.

Mr. Reaper. votes Yes.

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P.S You really should've made this a Poll to easily record the votes.