[mvega0422]

QUOTE (Ice1980 @ Thursday, Aug 2 2012, 16:47)

QUOTE (mvega0422 @ Thursday, Aug 2 2012, 10:37) QUOTE (Bantri @ Thursday, Aug 2 2012, 16:33) Don't buy their stocks yet, wait for it to get even lower Maybe by the time it finally reaches $3, they will feel compelled to say something. lol It'll never reach $3, mark my words. As others have said, it's a high value stock. I've seen companies much much worse than TTWO. I'm no expert, but why did there stock drop dramatially? what controls the rise and fall of stocks? On Aug 1st at 09:36 est, it was valued at $9.03. Almost 28hrs later it hit a low of $7.49??? Why so dramati drop? Is this un heard of $2 drop in a days time??? I don't understand....TTCC is to blame?

If you saw TTWO at $0.50, would you buy it? Sure you would, you'd probably take every single dollar you have out of your bank account and invest it.
If a week later you saw TTWO at $30.00, would you sell it? Sure you would, you'd probably sell it all and wait until it drops to get back in, because it's considered "overpriced" and people don't believe it will rise much more [overbought].

These are the 2 dynamics that control the price action: supply and demand. It goes further, however, when we speak of "mean regression and extremes", which is also what I just described. (Is it at an extreme level of being overbought or oversold? If so, you make certain decisions).

Anyways, to answer your other question directly: yes, -10% is a pretty big deal. If a stock did that 10 days in a row, it would be exponentially closer to no longer existing. Two days in a row and you've lost nearly a fifth of the stock's value.

The USA stock markets move maybe that much per year (despite the fact that they move around +/- 1% per day). The best securities/derivatives trader I ever knew made around 20-30% per month for a couple of years, and he was immediately hired at one of the best hedge funds in the country (with zero higher education). He was allocated funds to trade and he had a bad losing streak; soon thereafter, he was fired. Most traders would be absolutely ecstatic to make more than 10% per year, because we joke around and say "you have beat the market". I can personally pull easily 1%-2% ANY DAY, but yet I would be lucky to hit 15% per year (because of all the losses). I made 9% in 4 months, but now TakeTwo has dropped that number to ~7.5% ... we could sit here all day going through ridiculous numbers.

Basically, 10% is a big move. Certainly recoverable, especially for a company as "special" as TakeTwo, but a big move nonetheless.

Edit: I should've been more careful about my word choice - "investor" or "trader" - because there are differences. I apologize, just deal with it for now. It's like when you speak to a Gun Safety Teacher, and you call the rifle a "gun," he always says, "no! it's a firearm!" ... he's right. A trader is not investing, but an investor has to trade. Same way a firearm is not necessarily a violent "gun" but a gun is always a type of firearm.

This post has been edited by mvega0422 on Thursday, Aug 2 2012, 20:32

[rare.steak]

QUOTE (mvega0422 @ Thursday, Aug 2 2012, 20:26)

QUOTE (Ice1980 @ Thursday, Aug 2 2012, 16:47) QUOTE (mvega0422 @ Thursday, Aug 2 2012, 10:37) QUOTE (Bantri @ Thursday, Aug 2 2012, 16:33) Don't buy their stocks yet, wait for it to get even lower Maybe by the time it finally reaches $3, they will feel compelled to say something. lol It'll never reach $3, mark my words. As others have said, it's a high value stock. I've seen companies much much worse than TTWO. I'm no expert, but why did there stock drop dramatially? what controls the rise and fall of stocks? On Aug 1st at 09:36 est, it was valued at $9.03. Almost 28hrs later it hit a low of $7.49??? Why so dramati drop? Is this un heard of $2 drop in a days time??? I don't understand....TTCC is to blame? If you saw TTWO at $0.50, would you buy it? Sure you would, you'd probably take every single dollar you have out of your bank account and invest it. If a week later you saw TTWO at $30.00, would you sell it? Sure you would, you'd probably sell it all and wait until it drops to get back in, because it's considered "overpriced" and people don't believe it will rise much more [overbought]. These are the 2 dynamics that control the price action: supply and demand. It goes further, however, when we speak of "mean regression and extremes", which is also what I just described. (Is it at an extreme level of being overbought or oversold? If so, you make certain decisions). Anyways, to answer your other question directly: yes, -10% is a pretty big deal. If a stock did that 10 days in a row, it would be exponentially closer to no longer existing. Two days in a row and you've lost nearly a fifth of the stock's value. The USA stock markets move maybe that much per year (despite the fact that they move around +/- 1% per day). The best securities/derivatives trader I ever knew made around 20-30% per month for a couple of years, and he was immediately hired at one of the best hedge funds in the country (with zero higher education). He was allocated funds to trade and he had a bad losing streak; soon thereafter, he was fired. Most traders would be absolutely ecstatic to make more than 10% per year, because we joke around and say "you have beat the market". I can personally pull easily 1%-2% ANY DAY, but yet I would be lucky to hit 15% per year (because of all the losses). I made 9% in 4 months, but now TakeTwo has dropped that number to ~7.5% ... we could sit here all day going through ridiculous numbers. Basically, 10% is a big move. Certainly recoverable, especially for a company as "special" as TakeTwo, but a big move nonetheless. Edit: I should've been more careful about my word choice - "investor" or "trader" - because there are differences. I apologize, just deal with it for now. It's like when you speak to a Gun Safety Teacher, and you call the rifle a "gun," he always says, "no! it's a firearm!" ... he's right. A trader is not investing, but an investor has to trade. Same way a firearm is not necessarily a violent "gun" but a gun is always a type of firearm.

From a finance undergrad to an apparent expert; would you care to forecast how T2 shares might behave over the course of this month? *heh*

[GTASeriesFan]

cuz fans are mad at the lack of GTA info

[Pilotmonkey]

7.82.. Thats not very good MR. Zelenicixcsdohfshfystdfsdjkf;osdjhfkjsdfh whatever the CEO'S name is...

[mr marston]

they need to release gta 5 sooner

[PrometheusX]

QUOTE (mr marston @ Friday, Aug 3 2012, 04:58)

they need to release gta 5 sooner

You should elaborate more.

I'm pretty sure they have other options. Releasing GTA V, two months from now is quite irrational. It's definitely something R* won't do.

[mvega0422]

QUOTE (PrometheusX @ Friday, Aug 3 2012, 12:03)

QUOTE (mr marston @ Friday, Aug 3 2012, 04:58) they need to release gta 5 sooner You should elaborate more. I'm pretty sure they have other options. Releasing GTA V, two months from now is quite irrational. It's definitely something R* won't do.

Perhaps you should elaborate on how they are going to make $1.8 billion by March without GTA V?

[Carl CJ Johnsons Brother Brian]

QUOTE (PrometheusX @ Friday, Aug 3 2012, 12:03)

I'm pretty sure they have other options. Releasing GTA V, two months from now is quite irrational. It's definitely something R* won't do.

Okay, GTA V don't have to be released in October but 2012 is still possible. And what other options do Rockstar have? A other game? No. In November 2011 they said that GTA V is their next game after max Payne 3. If Rockstar love it to troll and lie to their fans we'll see a other game but that's far away from the reality. GTA V will be released before the end of March 2013. If it's after March 2013 then it's delayed. But there is no way that they make such a high income without Grand Theft Auto.

[mvega0422]

QUOTE (Carl CJ Johnsons Brother Brian @ Friday, Aug 3 2012, 12:10)

QUOTE (PrometheusX @ Friday, Aug 3 2012, 12:03) I'm pretty sure they have other options. Releasing GTA V, two months from now is quite irrational. It's definitely something R* won't do. Okay, GTA V don't have to be released in October but 2012 is still possible. And what other options do Rockstar have? A other game? No. In November 2011 they said that GTA V is their next game after max Payne 3. If Rockstar love it to troll and lie to their fans we'll see a other game but that's far away from the reality. GTA V will be released before the end of March 2013. If it's after March 2013 then it's delayed. But there is no way that they make such a high income without Grand Theft Auto.

We should just make our own website and post a link to it as our response. It's getting ridiculous to keep typing the same thing over and over again, with more and more detail, for everyone to just ignore it and go to another thread and scream about mid-2013.

[Bantri]

QUOTE (mvega0422 @ Friday, Aug 3 2012, 12:17)

QUOTE (Carl CJ Johnsons Brother Brian @ Friday, Aug 3 2012, 12:10) QUOTE (PrometheusX @ Friday, Aug 3 2012, 12:03) I'm pretty sure they have other options. Releasing GTA V, two months from now is quite irrational. It's definitely something R* won't do. Okay, GTA V don't have to be released in October but 2012 is still possible. And what other options do Rockstar have? A other game? No. In November 2011 they said that GTA V is their next game after max Payne 3. If Rockstar love it to troll and lie to their fans we'll see a other game but that's far away from the reality. GTA V will be released before the end of March 2013. If it's after March 2013 then it's delayed. But there is no way that they make such a high income without Grand Theft Auto. We should just make our own website and post a link to it as our response. It's getting ridiculous to keep typing the same thing over and over again, with more and more detail, for everyone to just ignore it and go to another thread and scream about mid-2013.

Haha! Good idea. Or make it our signatures. Maybe a cartoon flash site that explains everything perfectly, because if words and numbers are not getting through to people still saying it can only be 2013, maybe pictures will Though I have the suspicion that most of the 2013 people are 12 year olds. The only reason I can think someone would want to hope for a 2013 release (after march) is because it will take them that long to save up their allowance lmao.

This post has been edited by Bantri on Friday, Aug 3 2012, 16:08

[atouba5]

stocks are to damn high now.... $ 8.00

thanks god the stock market is closed over the weekend

on monday my new bank account at swissquote is ready to trade!

lets buy the damn whole company

[Dragonjack]

Looks like Take 2 interactive is making suggestions for R* and pushing GTAV to 2013 but will definitely hear some news on GTAV sooner or later .

[Bantri]

QUOTE (atouba5 @ Friday, Aug 3 2012, 16:01)

stocks are to damn high now.... $ 8.00 thanks god the stock market is closed over the weekend on monday my new bank account at swissquote is ready to trade! lets buy the damn whole company

lol I am waiting for my new broker account to get the funds transferred too so I can buy some stock

Maybe we can do like Kenny Powers from Eastbound and Down in those K-Swiss promotional videos where he purchases 51% of the stock and then automatically becomes CEO of K-Swiss lol

[PrometheusX]

QUOTE (mvega0422 @ Friday, Aug 3 2012, 12:17)

QUOTE (Carl CJ Johnsons Brother Brian @ Friday, Aug 3 2012, 12:10) QUOTE (PrometheusX @ Friday, Aug 3 2012, 12:03) I'm pretty sure they have other options. Releasing GTA V, two months from now is quite irrational. It's definitely something R* won't do. Okay, GTA V don't have to be released in October but 2012 is still possible. And what other options do Rockstar have? A other game? No. In November 2011 they said that GTA V is their next game after max Payne 3. If Rockstar love it to troll and lie to their fans we'll see a other game but that's far away from the reality. GTA V will be released before the end of March 2013. If it's after March 2013 then it's delayed. But there is no way that they make such a high income without Grand Theft Auto. We should just make our own website and post a link to it as our response. It's getting ridiculous to keep typing the same thing over and over again, with more and more detail, for everyone to just ignore it and go to another thread and scream about mid-2013.

Scream about Mid 2013? I didn't say anything about the game being released in 2013. I said that it's not logical to release a game in 2 months time, possibly being in development, after one trailer and two screenshots released. Plus which option will result in more profit, marketing the game and releasing it in two months, or six months time? [Hint: Use common sense]. I've used it in all my "theories", not a single one turned out to be wrong.

[AerialRocket]

Stocks have gone up to 8.08

[mvega0422]

QUOTE (PrometheusX @ Friday, Aug 3 2012, 17:34)

QUOTE (mvega0422 @ Friday, Aug 3 2012, 12:17) QUOTE (Carl CJ Johnsons Brother Brian @ Friday, Aug 3 2012, 12:10) QUOTE (PrometheusX @ Friday, Aug 3 2012, 12:03) I'm pretty sure they have other options. Releasing GTA V, two months from now is quite irrational. It's definitely something R* won't do. Okay, GTA V don't have to be released in October but 2012 is still possible. And what other options do Rockstar have? A other game? No. In November 2011 they said that GTA V is their next game after max Payne 3. If Rockstar love it to troll and lie to their fans we'll see a other game but that's far away from the reality. GTA V will be released before the end of March 2013. If it's after March 2013 then it's delayed. But there is no way that they make such a high income without Grand Theft Auto. We should just make our own website and post a link to it as our response. It's getting ridiculous to keep typing the same thing over and over again, with more and more detail, for everyone to just ignore it and go to another thread and scream about mid-2013. Scream about Mid 2013? I didn't say anything about the game being released in 2013. I said that it's not logical to release a game in 2 months time, possibly being in development, after one trailer and two screenshots released. Plus which option will result in more profit, marketing the game and releasing it in two months, or six months time? [Hint: Use common sense]. I've used it in all my "theories", not a single one turned out to be wrong.

I'm sorry, do you mind pointing out which "theories" of yours have turned out correct?

Edit: Also, read my signature and respond to it please?

This post has been edited by mvega0422 on Saturday, Aug 4 2012, 11:55

[Carl CJ Johnsons Brother Brian]

QUOTE (PrometheusX @ Friday, Aug 3 2012, 17:34)

Plus which option will result in more profit, marketing the game and releasing it in two months, or six months time? [Hint: Use common sense]. I've used it in all my "theories", not a single one turned out to be wrong.

And which theories turned out to be right? To ask your question: There is no answer for this question. GTA SA marketing took 2 and a half months a the game sold 23.56 million copies between 2004 and now according to vgchartz. So it was the best selling GTA. Max Payne 3 promotion campaign took 8 months with the delay and the sales are sh*t compared to GTA SA. Max Payne 3's sales are compared to Red Dead Redemption or even L.A. Noire sh*t too. Rockstar could easily take the same way as GTA SA, the best selling Grand Theft Auto to date.

[stee_vo]

I go away for a couple of weeks hoping to see some nice info when i get home but instead i get this.... Cool.

[Mamunda]

I hope they'll never ever repeat the same scheme with next GTAs (i.e early trailer and then jack sh*t for such long time)

I would laugh if they did the same with next GTA and release Max Payne 4

But IMO they won't make next Max Payne since they saw MP3 was failure

[stee_vo]

QUOTE (Carl CJ Johnsons Brother Brian @ Saturday, Aug 4 2012, 12:10)

QUOTE (PrometheusX @ Friday, Aug 3 2012, 17:34) Plus which option will result in more profit, marketing the game and releasing it in two months, or six months time? [Hint: Use common sense]. I've used it in all my "theories", not a single one turned out to be wrong. And which theories turned out to be right? To ask your question: There is no answer for this question. GTA SA marketing took 2 and a half months a the game sold 23.56 million copies between 2004 and now according to vgchartz. So it was the best selling GTA. Max Payne 3 promotion campaign took 8 months with the delay and the sales are sh*t compared to GTA SA. Max Payne 3's sales are compared to Red Dead Redemption or even L.A. Noire sh*t too. Rockstar could easily take the same way as GTA SA, the best selling Grand Theft Auto to date.

This, i don't see why the should NOT do like they did with SA..