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 Mistakes and plot holes in IV

 
codyr783  
Posted: Wednesday, Aug 1 2012, 09:14
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One that I noticed was after the Broker safehouse and Cab Depot are burned down. Roman later calls you and tells you that the authorities found the cause of the Cab Depot fire to be from an electrical fire, and not arson. Wouldn't having two properties burn down that belong to the same person be seen as more suspicious?

Also, anybody notice any other mistakes?
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Posted: Wednesday, Aug 1 2012, 14:15
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QUOTE (codyr783 @ Wednesday, Aug 1 2012, 11:14)
One that I noticed was after the Broker safehouse and Cab Depot are burned down. Roman later calls you and tells you that the authorities found the cause of the Cab Depot fire to be from an electrical fire, and not arson.

Bribery? Blackmailing? Dimitri could have some influences in it.
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Posted: Wednesday, Aug 1 2012, 17:28
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QUOTE (codyr783 @ Wednesday, Aug 1 2012, 09:14)
One that I noticed was after the Broker safehouse and Cab Depot are burned down. Roman later calls you and tells you that the authorities found the cause of the Cab Depot fire to be from an electrical fire, and not arson. Wouldn't having two properties burn down that belong to the same person be seen as more suspicious?

Also, anybody notice any other mistakes?

The insurance company guys thought it was an electrical fire. It was arson. Dimitri & Bulgarin threw molotov cocktails in the apartment and cab depot.
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ddyoung  
Posted: Wednesday, Aug 1 2012, 18:05
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its called corruption.
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Posted: Wednesday, Aug 1 2012, 19:45
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QUOTE (The_Anti-tragedy @ Wednesday, Aug 1 2012, 12:28)
QUOTE (codyr783 @ Wednesday, Aug 1 2012, 09:14)
One that I noticed was after the Broker safehouse and Cab Depot are burned down. Roman later calls you and tells you that the authorities found the cause of the Cab Depot fire to be from an electrical fire, and not arson. Wouldn't having two properties burn down that belong to the same person be seen as more suspicious?

Also, anybody notice any other mistakes?

The insurance company guys thought it was an electrical fire. It was arson. Dimitri & Bulgarin threw molotov cocktails in the apartment and cab depot.

I know. But I just don't think that two building fires belonging to the same guy would not be passed off as arson or suspicious.
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Posted: Wednesday, Aug 1 2012, 20:39
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QUOTE (codyr783 @ Wednesday, Aug 1 2012, 19:45)
QUOTE (The_Anti-tragedy @ Wednesday, Aug 1 2012, 12:28)
QUOTE (codyr783 @ Wednesday, Aug 1 2012, 09:14)
One that I noticed was after the Broker safehouse and Cab Depot are burned down. Roman later calls you and tells you that the authorities found the cause of the Cab Depot fire to be from an electrical fire, and not arson. Wouldn't having two properties burn down that belong to the same person be seen as more suspicious?

Also, anybody notice any other mistakes?

The insurance company guys thought it was an electrical fire. It was arson. Dimitri & Bulgarin threw molotov cocktails in the apartment and cab depot.

I know. But I just don't think that two building fires belonging to the same guy would not be passed off as arson or suspicious.

@ cody

Lol it's a good 4 years too late to be speculating on stuff like that in GTA IV now don't you think ?
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Posted: Wednesday, Aug 1 2012, 22:09
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Roman may have rent the apartment , it would have been more difficult then for the chickens to do the correlation . a thing that for me sounded a bit strange it's that none of the hospitals seems to have an heliport
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QUOTE (jpm1 @ Wednesday, Aug 1 2012, 22:09)
Roman may have rent the apartment , it would have been more difficult then for the chickens to do the correlation . a thing that for me sounded a bit strange it's that none of the hospitals seems to have an heliport

few hospitals in nyc do because of the density of skyscrapers, especially in manhattan. what they usually do is fly to the nearest public heliport and have an ambulance waiting there.
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QUOTE (ddyoung @ Thursday, Aug 2 2012, 18:07)
QUOTE (jpm1 @ Wednesday, Aug 1 2012, 22:09)
Roman may have rent the apartment  , it would have been more difficult then for the chickens to do the correlation . a thing that for me sounded a bit strange it's that none of the hospitals seems to have an heliport

few hospitals in nyc do because of the density of skyscrapers, especially in manhattan. what they usually do is fly to the nearest public heliport and have an ambulance waiting there.

nice . it sounded curious to me , cause i know that in some cases paramedic helos can even land in huge cities streets . when the patient trauma needs such operation

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Posted: Thursday, Aug 2 2012, 19:53
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So in summation there are no plot holes.

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Posted: Friday, Aug 3 2012, 19:32
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I don't think there were any. While it was a fantastic story I don't think it was a very complicated one. If there were any they were small, no 'Heavy Rain- sized' plot holes.
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Posted: Saturday, Aug 4 2012, 22:36
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Idk if these count but here it goes. In the second mission "it's your call". Roman goes in the hardware store and has to escape through the back. There is no back door.

Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but in Jamaican Heat there are 3 Rastas that arrive to the meeting. When you walk back to your car, it shows an empty Virgo parked in the street(a 2 door car). So how did the 3rd one get there?...
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billy james  
Posted: Sunday, Aug 5 2012, 03:18
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If you want to know of any plot hole and mistakes it the game, there a whole bunch of them in the Possible Trinity topic on the TBoGT
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AceRay  
Posted: Sunday, Aug 5 2012, 05:54
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When Elizabeta actually goes to jail is a big one. In TLAD, she would've been in jail during her missions according to IV, as she gets arrested before she meets Johnny.
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Posted: Sunday, Aug 5 2012, 10:24
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I've always wondered if Bulgarin being listed as "deceased" on the LCPD database was a mistake on R*'s part or if it was intentional.
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Posted: Sunday, Aug 5 2012, 10:40
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It's not really a plot mistake but when you hang out with Roman a lot he sometimes says Niko received an e-mail from his aunt before he even did the Logging On mission and has not used the internet yet.
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Posted: Sunday, Aug 5 2012, 15:56
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QUOTE (AceRay @ Sunday, Aug 5 2012, 05:54)
When Elizabeta actually goes to jail is a big one. In TLAD, she would've been in jail during her missions according to IV, as she gets arrested before she meets Johnny.

She should be in jail in IV while her later missions in TLaD are available. She shouldn't be in prison by Buyer's Market as she still gives Niko some missions. I thought that Elizabeta's two latter missions crossover with Elizabeta's three missions for Johnny later in TLaD, but the bridge to Alderney should be opened so I thought do Packie's missions before Elizabeta's latters. But Elizabeta's last missions unlock Packie's missions so there's a whole 'nother plot hole right there.

QUOTE (Miamivicecity @ Sunday, Aug 5 2012, 10:24)
I've always wondered if Bulgarin being listed as "deceased" on the LCPD database was a mistake on R*'s part or if it was intentional.


I think Bulgarin was in hiding or something and last time the police may have seen him they assumed he was dead, probably.
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Posted: Tuesday, Aug 7 2012, 04:57
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How about how every single character in the game thinks Niko is some kind of unstoppable god who can easily engage entire building's worth of armed gunmen alone with a pistol?

The only reason he can do this is he's the only person in the entire city with a gun with an IQ above 26.
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austinkopeck  
Posted: Thursday, Aug 16 2012, 18:18
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How about all the bridges being open in The Lost and Damned when "Clean and Serene" occurs around the same time as "Shadow" and "Final Destination", although Algonquin is unlocked after "The Puerto Rican Connection" and Alderney is unlocked after "Three Leaf Clover" in GTA IV.
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Posted: Sunday, Aug 19 2012, 15:57
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I can think of a few caused by putting off certain mission strands for a very long time. It is obvious that the game assumes the player has completed these certain missions by certain points in the game.

If Niko calls Roman after "I'll Take Her" (Gracie's kidnapping), he will ask him what it is like to be kidnapped, obviously referring to the mission "Hostile Negotiation". The dialogue remains the same even if "Hostile Negotiation" hasn't been completed yet.

While Niko is working for the Pegorino's, he receives an e-mail from the ULP contact telling him that the fools he is working for in Alderney are scum. This e-mail is received even if Niko hasn't started on the ULP strand yet and thus hasn't met the contact. He will also reply to the e-mail as if he's met him.

During "Catch the Wave", Phil mentions how Niko was helping the Irish cause trouble between the Ancelotti's and Albanians a while back. Despite this, it is possible that Niko hasn't done either of Gerry's first two missions yet, and the dialogue again remains the same.
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