[Garfield 2]

I saw one on the road today. They're absolutely magnificent!

[sivispacem]

Really? We're all fawning over a tarted up Freelander in drag? I'd rather have a proper Range Rover, personally.

[Garfield 2]

QUOTE (sivispacem @ Thursday, Aug 30 2012, 23:14)

Really? We're all fawning over a tarted up Freelander in drag? I'd rather have a proper Range Rover, personally.

The Evoque is sleek.

[Lurch]

QUOTE (Outcast @ Thursday, Aug 30 2012, 11:15)

You guys probably don't have these over in the West but Luxury MPVs are pretty popular here in Asia. I'd really like to have one when I start a family. Toyota Vellfire

That thing looks f*cking retarded.

[Entei]

1969 Plymouth Fury III ye.

[Outcast]

QUOTE (Lurch @ Friday, Aug 31 2012, 10:51)

That thing looks f*cking retarded.

I wouldn't expect you to understand as you wouldn't know luxury if it smacked you upside the head.

As far as the Toyota Vellfires, Toyota Alphards, Honda Elysions and Nissan Elgrands are concerned. They look miles better than the minivans you see over in the States or Europe.

This post has been edited by Outcast on Friday, Aug 31 2012, 03:15

[Pat]

QUOTE (Outcast @ Thursday, Aug 30 2012, 22:12)

As far as the Toyota Vellfires, Toyota Alphards, Honda Elysions and Nissan Elgrands are concerned. They look miles better than the minivans you see over in the States or Europe.

That's like saying dog sh*t looks miles better than cat sh*t.

[Outcast]

QUOTE (Pat @ Friday, Aug 31 2012, 11:17)

QUOTE (Outcast @ Thursday, Aug 30 2012, 22:12) As far as the Toyota Vellfires, Toyota Alphards, Honda Elysions and Nissan Elgrands are concerned. They look miles better than the minivans you see over in the States or Europe. That's like saying dog sh*t looks miles better than cat sh*t.

Yeah but the difference is I'd actually rather like to own one when time comes for a family. Tell me you'd choose a Sienna or Odyssey over a Vellfire or Elgrand to drive your kids to school in, or whatever it is that parents do with minivans.

[Lurch]

QUOTE (Outcast @ Thursday, Aug 30 2012, 23:12)

QUOTE (Lurch @ Friday, Aug 31 2012, 10:51) That thing looks f*cking retarded.  I wouldn't expect you to understand as you wouldn't know luxury if it smacked you upside the head.

Yeah, because, when I think luxury, I don't think Mercedes or BMW, I think Toyota and Honda.

That's absof*ckinglutely retarded.

And asking the choice of minivan to go to school is about like choosing which caliber round to take to the brain. It really doesn't matter.

If I had to make a choice, I'd probably choose the one that doesn't look like it's trying to impersonate some stupid FnF VIP look.

This post has been edited by Lurch on Friday, Aug 31 2012, 05:19

[Pat]

QUOTE (Outcast @ Thursday, Aug 30 2012, 22:23)

Tell me you'd choose a Sienna or Odyssey over a Vellfire or Elgrand to drive your kids to school in, or whatever it is that parents do with minivans.

I would choose none of the f*cking above.

[The General]

QUOTE (Outcast @ Thursday, Aug 30 2012, 22:23)

Yeah but the difference is I'd actually rather like to own one when time comes for a family. Tell me you'd choose a Sienna or Odyssey over a Vellfire or Elgrand to drive your kids to school in, or whatever it is that parents do with minivans.

You see Outcast, here in North America, all of the cool parents get crossovers. They do not want to be seen in minivan!

Also I won't choose any of those, I would choose this...

[Dragonjack]

The Lamborghini aventador.

[sivispacem]

QUOTE (Outcast @ Friday, Aug 31 2012, 04:12)

I wouldn't expect you to understand as you wouldn't know luxury if it smacked you upside the head.

Nor do you, it seems. Luxury isn't a product of how many DVD players you've got for the screaming brats in the back. It's much more nuanced than that- I mean, that's why a Rolls Royce is truly luxurious, and a Maybach is just ostentatious. A high-sided, slammed, VIP look MPV is never going to be luxurious because it's trying to be something it's not. It's basically a van full of leather- proper luxury comes from cars that were designed as mobile stately homes.

And the people who desire "luxury" cars don't have more than two children. It's uncouth.

[Outcast]

QUOTE

I mean, that's why a Rolls Royce is truly luxurious, and a Maybach is just ostentatious.

I do agree with you on this, but just because a car is ostentatious doesn't mean it isn't luxurious. I've been chauffeured in both Rolls Royces and Maybachs and they are both luxurious. Of course if I had to choose I'd say the RR is much more so, but that may be because of heritage bias. The Maybach is very nouveau riche whereas the RR is old money.

QUOTE

A high-sided, slammed, VIP look MPV is never going to be luxurious because it's trying to be something it's not.

What's to say that an MPV can never be luxurious just because that particular segment of the market isn't tailored to it? I know plenty of multimillionaires in Hong Kong whose kids are driven around in Alphards, Vellfires, Elysions and Elgrands. Its the family car of choice for the elite here.

I'd just like to ask, in your mind, what constitutes as a luxury car? (excluding the RR of course).

[κενιη]

E38 7 Series:

-Wagon body...yeah WAGON
-Alpina Wheels and Aero
-N74B60 w/ 8-speed auto from the F02 760Li
-Some sort of trick magnetic suspension
-Somehow squeeze all the luxo interior bits from the F02 into the E38
-Trailer hitch for my bumper-dumper

This post has been edited by κενιη on Friday, Aug 31 2012, 08:26

[sivispacem]

QUOTE (Outcast @ Friday, Aug 31 2012, 09:13)

I'd just like to ask, in your mind, what constitutes as a luxury car? (excluding the RR of course).

The first prerequisite is a saloon or large coupe body. Its not true luxury if it looks like a tarted up Transit. Its got to be relatively discrete, because real money doesn't shout about it, so big body kits and pie-dish chrome wheels are a definite no-no. The interior has to be mostly composed of dead cow and dead tree, ideally the latter being hewn from a single trunk to preserve the grain. Aluminium is acceptable too but again it needs to be a solid block of billet. Chrome is acceptable for detailing only. Ideally there should be a glass barrier between the driver and passenger, so you don't need to talk to your driver. The only gadget of any importance is a champagne fridge. The car must be relatively fast, but also utterly effortless, and absolutely must have impeccable ride quality. Armour playing up to ballistic level IV just be a factory option.

[Outcast]

QUOTE (sivispacem @ Friday, Aug 31 2012, 17:22)

QUOTE (Outcast @ Friday, Aug 31 2012, 09:13) I'd just like to ask, in your mind, what constitutes as a luxury car? (excluding the RR of course). The first prerequisite is a saloon or large coupe body. Its not true luxury if it looks like a tarted up Transit. Its got to be relatively discrete, because real money doesn't shout about it, so big body kits and pie-dish chrome wheels are a definite no-no. The interior has to be mostly composed of dead cow and dead tree, ideally the latter being hewn from a single trunk to preserve the grain. Aluminium is acceptable too but again it needs to be a solid block of billet. Chrome is acceptable for detailing only. Ideally there should be a glass barrier between the driver and passenger, so you don't need to talk to your driver. The only gadget of any importance is a champagne fridge. The car must be relatively fast, but also utterly effortless, and absolutely must have impeccable ride quality. Armour playing up to ballistic level IV just be a factory option.

That's very specific sivis. I expected no less from you and I am suitably impressed. The only thing I disagree with is the partition between driver and passenger. I have one in the Lincoln limo and it tends to stay down as I like to see the road ahead and to facilitate communication between the driver and myself. I do have a speaker and mic installed so communication with the partition up is still possible, call me old fashioned but I still prefer communicating with my driver face to back-of-head.

This post has been edited by Outcast on Friday, Aug 31 2012, 09:33

[Cursed]

I'm not too far off my dream car. Would just need some 10" wheels, 7.5" brakes and some bolt on bits.

[Outcast]

To me, dream cars are something near unobtainable and all these Ferraris and Lambos in this thread are absolutely in the realm of possibility (of course, this all hinges on your financial situation).

If I'm honest, this would probably be the closest to something resembling a dream car for me.

Volga V12 Coupe


Link

[Lurch]

QUOTE (Outcast @ Friday, Aug 31 2012, 10:02)

To me, dream cars are something near unobtainable and all these Ferraris and Lambos in this thread are absolutely in the realm of possibility (of course, this all hinges on your financial situation).

Maybe for you. For people living in the real world, a car well into 6 figure territory is never going to be a possibility for your average blue collar working class joe.

This post has been edited by Lurch on Friday, Aug 31 2012, 15:39