[cp1dell]

>Complains there are no parachutes
>Argument is that all other GTA's allow you to do criminal activities

sh*t Zee, that mouth of a septic tank sure is overflowing today.

The second I saw "Last Post: Zee" I knew there was going to be some dumb sh*t in this thread. It's a wonder you haven't been banned yet after your constant babbling.

[Zee]

Anyway, (ignoring the idiot above) yeah, I did not like the fact that GTAIV had features from orevious games cut out. I understand that they couldnt bring everything from SA over but they did not bring enough in my opinion. GTA4 suffered greatly by not having features that were meant for DLC.

[cp1dell]

I'm the idiot? I guess I should start booking flights to NYC and LA so I complain about how GTA doesn't fit my special needs, buy games and throw them in the trash only to run back and get them, and put on a fake accent.

[Master of San Andreas]

i have said this somewhere else.


The reason peole hate 4 is because they feel it was too realistic and removed the fun from sa.

but it is a very good gta infact amazing! although sa is my favorite!

sa time there was no good technology therefore the fun glitches

when 4 was to be released the gaming market was going fast with games becoming less glitchy so rockstar could not take 4 lightly so it had to be very good and it is AWSEOME!

at least the peeple who played sa and say 4 is bad are not worse than the CoD fanboys saying GTA series well rockstar is the worst. which is annoying !

if you agree!

[Miamivicecity]

QUOTE (Zee @ Thursday, Aug 2 2012, 15:27)

QUOTE (Miamivicecity @ Tuesday, Jul 31 2012, 22:22) QUOTE (Zee @ Wednesday, Aug 1 2012, 13:08) QUOTE (GTAboyWonder @ Tuesday, Jul 31 2012, 20:51) QUOTE (Miamivicecity @ Monday, Jul 30 2012, 05:54) QUOTE (ccrogers15 @ Monday, Jul 30 2012, 20:58) Its OK but not GREAT as people say. The only reason people keep saying its the best is because they love the graphics and engine. Those dont make a game awesome. Story does. And for me, my fave gta story was GTA SA.And i can run GTA IV just fine. Ive got a ps3.  Personally I find GTA IV's story to be like an acclaimed novel while SA's is like one of those $2 children's books you read to a child at night. THIS OT: I LOVE GTAIV! And no, not because of the graphics, because of the vibe it gives off when you play it. The story is AMAZING, the best R* ever made. There was some flaws, to be honest. One of them was that the missions were too easy, while VC's were difficult but still fun. I think the only people who hate IV are just a bunch of SA fanboys who were weeping because "Ther waz no jetz and dessurtz or forast in IV so it sukkz." Nope, I hate GTA4 for not having parachutes. And I hate Luis Lopez, so, worst of both worlds. That's a pretty poor reason. Why do you love VC? It doesn't have parachutes either. I'm not going to waste my time trying to convince you. Obviously you have some sort of deep-seated need to rabidly defend Gta4, and any logical conclusion I come to you'll just rationalize away. The people who enjoy doing criminal activities can play all the other GTAs, and the people who like bowling, watching tv and walking around a city doing nothing can play GTA4 and be happy forever.

You have some nerve when you're the one who thinks you're some kind of celebrity with your "videos".

Or is it in your blood to have some deep seeded need to make an ass of yourself? I may defend GTA IV, but atleast I can make use of my time here without pretending to fly halfway around the world and construct a false identity.

[Official General]

QUOTE (Miamivicecity @ Wednesday, Aug 1 2012, 22:33)

Although it has its flaws I still think GTA IV is the best game in the series. Deep down I'm still a huge VC fan, but I'm not going to let nostalgia get in the way. Really I've always found it hard to split VC and GTA IV. VC has that awesome 80s vibe yet GTA IV has that more down to vibe I've grown fond of over the years. Not to mention Niko is just awesome all over. It's the only game in the series where I actually enjoy walking around and just soaking everything up. I have more fun doing that than flying a plane or a jetpack actually.

@ Miami

I've long established that GTA IV is your most favorite GTA, and I know you are always on hand to defend it from it's many critics and haters. Your love for IV is unbreakable, there is no mistaking that lol.

But don't get me twisted though - just because Vice City is my favorite GTA, I certainly do not have such a strong nostalgia for it that would get me to keep playing it up until this day. I have not played VC for ages now, a good few years - I could'nt go back to playing VC or San Andreas after playing and getting used to the current-gen HD graphics, physics and animations of IV. Playing VC and SA now would just feel too dated in every way.

However, I'm referring to the moments I experienced at the time of first playing VC and SA. Compared to what I first experienced with IV, VC and SA come on top hands down in my view. VC and SA just stunned and amazed me in a way that IV could not do. But IV did amaze me with with sheer size, graphical and physical detail of Liberty City - I'll agree with you and say that I gained major excitement just walking around and exploring LC. But I did enjoy doing that just as much in VC and SA at the time those games first came out, so I personally can't say IV had anything on top of them there. The deciding factor for me in concluding that IV did not match up to VC and SA was IV's reduced number of side missions and activities to do with crime, making money and generating wealth. VC and SA had plenty of stuff like that relative to their size and technical capabilities compared to the smaller amount that IV did, when IV should have had more in the first place. VC and SA offered the a multitude of fun and interesting stuff like buying and owning business, property, gambling, gang wars etc. There is only so much bowling, darts, pool, drinking, killing pigeons and walking around the city that I can do, and that seemed to take up much of IV's side activities and missions.

Yes, Niko was a good main character, unlike many people on here, I actually liked him. However, I just don't think he was that great to be classed as the best GTA protagonist so far, no way.

[Miamivicecity]

QUOTE (Official General @ Thursday, Aug 2 2012, 23:54)

QUOTE (Miamivicecity @ Wednesday, Aug 1 2012, 22:33) Although it has its flaws I still think GTA IV is the best game in the series. Deep down I'm still a huge VC fan, but I'm not going to let nostalgia get in the way. Really I've always found it hard to split VC and GTA IV. VC has that awesome 80s vibe yet GTA IV has that more down to vibe I've grown fond of over the years. Not to mention Niko is just awesome all over. It's the only game in the series where I actually enjoy walking around and just soaking everything up. I have more fun doing that than flying a plane or a jetpack actually. @ Miami I've long established that GTA IV is your most favorite GTA, and I know you are always on hand to defend it from it's many critics and haters. Your love for IV is unbreakable, there is no mistaking that lol. But don't get me twisted though - just because Vice City is my favorite GTA, I certainly do not have such a strong nostalgia for it that would get me to keep playing it up until this day. I have not played VC for ages now, a good few years - I could'nt go back to playing VC or San Andreas after playing and getting used to the current-gen HD graphics, physics and animations of IV. Playing VC and SA now would just feel too dated in every way. However, I'm referring to the moments I experienced at the time of first playing VC and SA. Compared to what I first experienced with IV, VC and SA come on top hands down in my view. VC and SA just stunned and amazed me in a way that IV could not do. But IV did amaze me with with sheer size, graphical and physical detail of Liberty City - I'll agree with you and say that I gained major excitement just walking around and exploring LC. But I did enjoy doing that just as much in VC and SA at the time those games first came out, so I personally can't say IV had anything on top of them there. The deciding factor for me in concluding that IV did not match up to VC and SA was IV's reduced number of side missions and activities to do with crime, making money and generating wealth. VC and SA had plenty of stuff like that relative to their size and technical capabilities compared to the smaller amount that IV did, when IV should have had more in the first place. VC and SA offered the a multitude of fun and interesting stuff like buying and owning business, property, gambling, gang wars etc. There is only so much bowling, darts, pool, drinking, killing pigeons and walking around the city that I can do, and that seemed to take up much of IV's side activities and missions. Yes, Niko was a good main character, unlike many people on here, I actually liked him. However, I just don't think he was that great to be classed as the best GTA protagonist so far, no way.

As always General I highly respect your point of view. We've had many discussions over the last couple of years we can basically write eachother's posts lol.

In saying that I'll always be open to criticisms yet through it all. All the GTA IV hate threads I still, STILL have never been convinced GTA IV is as bad as people say. There's a difference with simply prefering VC and SA compared to bashing for the sake of it.

You're right. Like my VC love my GTA IV love can never be broken.

This post has been edited by Miamivicecity on Thursday, Aug 2 2012, 13:07

[cettefemme]

What, like in comparison to the other GTAs, or as a standalone game? Granted, the only other GTAs I've played are Vice City and Chinatown Wars, but I think IV is the best by far (I need to try out San Andreas though, heard nothing but good things about it!), and quite possibly one of the best games of all time as well.

It's fun with good gameplay and an immersive storyline. How does it suck?

[Official General]

QUOTE (cettefemme @ Thursday, Aug 2 2012, 13:45)

What, like in comparison to the other GTAs, or as a standalone game? Granted, the only other GTAs I've played are Vice City and Chinatown Wars, but I think IV is the best by far (I need to try out San Andreas though, heard nothing but good things about it!), and quite possibly one of the best games of all time as well. It's fun with good gameplay and an immersive storyline. How does it suck?

I'd definitely try out playing San Andreas first and thoroughly before deciding that GTA IV is the best GTA of them all. If you can get over the older, last-gen console technology, then you may find yourself having a hard time choosing which one is the best. SA was a f**king masterpiece, classic, the game is just so huge.

@ Miami

I hear you bro, it's all good!

[Above]

I don't get it either, best game ever.

[Linki]

QUOTE (Zee @ Thursday, Aug 2 2012, 04:27)

The people who enjoy doing criminal activities can play all the other GTAs, and the people who like bowling, watching tv and walking around a city doing nothing can play GTA4 and be happy forever.

This is the worst argument - you are literally ignoring the entire game and making believe that is all you do. When I play GTAIV, do you really think I say to myself "Oh boy! Can't wait to go bowling and watch TV!" No I f*cking don't. What I do say to myself is "Oh boy! Can't wait to engage in ridiculous cinematic action that looks and feels kick-ass!"

Because GTAIV has the best gameplay. Going on rampages is the best in IV, car chases are the best in IV and general chaos/screwing around is the best in IV. And what do most people play GTA for? Rampages, car chases, chaos etc. Not f*cking mini games.

[˸øåíüêà]

OP:
1. Grey, boring graphics most of the day
2. Shiny, almost mirror-like tarmac
3. No countryside
4. Rather weak radio compared with previous GTAs
5. Slow controls for Niko
6. Too many controls, thus inability to re-assign them easily
7. Slow fading in and out of the menu
8. Niko giving up to police
9. Slow, very slow death scenes
10. No side missions
11. The purpose of most missions is to drive-chase-kill
12. Cars' sounds are rubbish
13. No jetpack and tank
14. Inability to enter airport without gaining police attention
15. Multiple endings
16. Car physics
17. System reqs are too damn high for the game of this level
18. STUPID WINDOWS LIVE!!! Inability to easily copy your save games back and forth.
19. Kazeen! Let's play darts! Every 5 minutes.
20. Most of cars are the same type of thing.

God, never thought there are so many disadvantages in GTA 4... Never bothered to put them all together!

I would probably go on how much better GTA 3's athmosphere is compared to GTA 4's, but I just don't see them as the same city... 4's LC doesn't feel like a life-like city.

I can't say I hate it, but I think it is an uninteresting shiny game, which is only good to pass and leave on the shelf. Definitely not worth 32 quid I paid for it. SA was 25, so I with all the inflation etc I would have expect GTA 4 be around the same price.

This post has been edited by ˸øåíüêà on Monday, Aug 13 2012, 00:31

[cidamelo]

˸øåíüêà

1. Yes, the graphics were kind of grey, but I like it! GTA III's graphic is way more gray and gritty, and I love it!! Liberty City isn't supposed to be colourful, in my opinion!
2. I never have noticed that
3. Well I agree, that should be countryside, but I think some parts of Alderney, specially its north, were relaxing like a countryside!
4. I loved the radio! Good selection of songs, I have always loved GTA soundtrack!
5. My game is so slow that it isn't just Niko's control, it's everything
6. Yes, I had this difficult!!
7. As said in number "5", everything was slow
8. Well I can't remember a time when Niko gave up
9. Yes, this annoyed me!
10. There're random encounters, games, friends, vigilante.... a lot of things!
11. I don't think it was that repetitive...
12. I think they're good! I think GTA San Andreas has bad car sounds!
13. Well I like it, but I didn't miss it sooo much... It would be weird to see Niko driving a jetpack! It belongs more to San Andreas 'nonsense'
14. Yes, I didn't like it, but it was kind fun to escape the airport
15. I like it!!! I think that it should have even more endings and options!
16. Well, I don't understand much of physics, but I liked
17. I run the game around 20 FPS, it's kind slow, but I'm used to have games running slow
18. Yes, I hated it too!!
19. It's so annoying it's fun!
20. I don't agree... Actually I think that in San Andreas most of cars are very similar

[Miamivicecity]

QUOTE (˸øåíüêà @ Monday, Aug 13 2012, 11:19)

OP: 1. Grey, boring graphics most of the day 2. Shiny, almost mirror-like tarmac 3. No countryside 4. Rather weak radio compared with previous GTAs 5. Slow controls for Niko 6. Too many controls, thus inability to re-assign them easily 7. Slow fading in and out of the menu 8. Niko giving up to police 9. Slow, very slow death scenes 10. No side missions 11. The purpose of most missions is to drive-chase-kill 12. Cars' sounds are rubbish 13. No jetpack and tank 14. Inability to enter airport without gaining police attention 15. Multiple endings 16. Car physics 17. System reqs are too damn high for the game of this level 18. STUPID WINDOWS LIVE!!! Inability to easily copy your save games back and forth. 19. Kazeen! Let's play darts! Every 5 minutes. 20. Most of cars are the same type of thing. God, never thought there are so many disadvantages in GTA 4... Never bothered to put them all  together! I would probably go on how much better GTA 3's athmosphere is compared to GTA 4's, but I just don't see them as the same city... 4's LC doesn't feel like a life-like city. I can't say I hate it, but I think it is an uninteresting shiny game, which is only good to pass and leave on the shelf. Definitely not worth 32 quid I paid for it. SA was 25, so I with all the inflation etc I would have expect GTA 4 be around the same price.

1: There's a contrast and saturation button which can be turned up you know. You like GTA III which has the most dull, grey and bland look of the GTA III era and you bash GTA IV for this reason?
2: This is considered a negative? Wow clucthing at the straws here.
3: So what? It's based on NYC. NYC doesn't have countryside.
4: Personal preference. I agree some of the music isn't all that great, but there's some I don't mind.
5: Controls are fine.
6; Again the controls are fine. Another clutching at the straws argument.
7: Really?
8: Eh you don't have to surrender.
9: Can't you spare a few seconds?
10: Oh really? I guess GTA IV doesn't have...

Taxi missions.
Most Wanted.
Vigilante.
Brucie's import/exports.
Races.
Assassinations.
LJ's drug runs.
Stevie's cars.

Now if you had of said there isn't enough side missions you'd have a valid point, but you're almost implying there's no side missions in the game at all.

11: Well damn. I've been a GTA fan for 14 years and I'm pretty sure most missions in each game serve as drive-chase-kill. Even your precious GTA III.
12: You need a hearing test because there's nothing wrong with the sounds.
13: No GTA besides SA has a jetpack. Why criticise GTA IV? I understand that the exclusion of the tank didn't sit well with some people, but there was one brought back in TBOGT. Abeit not as powerful.
14: Since one of the game's themes is the paranoia surrounding terrorism it makes sense. You can't enter Area 69 without attracting a wanted level.
15: How the hell is this considered bad? If anything it makes the game more interesting, but I suppose you enjoy your precious GTA III and the same ending everytime.
16: Car physics are much better than the GTA III era IMO.
17: I play on 360 so couldn't really care less.
18: Same as above.
19: You have a sleep mode on your phone I suggest using it.
20: What the f*ck does this even mean "Most cars are the same type of thing" Do you mean multiple variations or what? Be clear with what you're trying to say.

I swear you constructed this list based on some of the mosts pointless and retarded complaints I've ever seen.

The blades of grass in GTA III aren't propotioned enough to my liking therfore GTA III sucks.

This post has been edited by Miamivicecity on Monday, Aug 13 2012, 03:35

[Official General]

@ Miami

I have to agree with you there. I read that guy's list and most of his reasons for not liking GTA IV were not really valid or understandable.

[Dr. John13]

QUOTE (Miamivicecity @ Monday, Aug 13 2012, 08:26)

GTA III sucks.

Stop right here. Well, I don't wanna create a battlefield here but people play Games for fun. If you will go in so detail, then I will start to call you Gamer Nazi. I can list out 50 bad points from GTA VC. If you feel a game is bad then don't hurt it. You won't be satisfied if I say sh*t about VC. Every person has it's own reason to love a game. You say, you love VC because you were born in 80's and I love GTA 3 because it was totally different and it was the successor of all GTAs even if it is old. I have no dislikes about VC but it's just I don't feel something right in it. Not that it's bad because it was my first GTA as well. I can say that 1/2 of the crap is taken from GTA 3 and if you keep stating sh*t about GTA 3, it will also go for GTA VC.

As for GTA 4, people say it's great because of it's Graphics and Gameplay. I can say that those guys don't even know who is the protagonist. GTA 4 has it's own unique quality, style. If anyone hates it, it depends upon it's style.

Here are my views that who will like what GTA:
GTA 3 = Variation (People who are naive)
GTA VC = Free and Relaxation (People who are modest and relaxed)
GTA SA = Gangsta and Action (People who are more like rap, etc)
GTA 4 = Modern and Beautiful (People who love Modern living)
GTA 5 (This one is totally based on that storyline) = Free and Action (People who are adventurous and Romantic)

[Official General]

QUOTE (Dr. John13 @ Monday, Aug 13 2012, 13:31)

Here are my views that who will like what GTA: GTA 3 = Variation (People who are naive) GTA VC = Free and Relaxation (People who are modest and relaxed) GTA SA = Gangsta and Action (People who are more like rap, etc) GTA 4 = Modern and Beautiful (People who love Modern living) GTA 5 (This one is totally based on that storyline) = Free and Action (People who are adventurous and Romantic)

Just what the f**k are you on about ? What a load of pure nonsense and bullsh*t. Man shut up!

[Dr. John13]

QUOTE (Official General @ Monday, Aug 13 2012, 19:04)

QUOTE (Dr. John13 @ Monday, Aug 13 2012, 13:31) Here are my views that who will like what GTA: GTA 3 = Variation (People who are naive) GTA VC = Free and Relaxation (People who are modest and relaxed) GTA SA = Gangsta and Action (People who are more like rap, etc) GTA 4 = Modern and Beautiful (People who love Modern living) GTA 5 (This one is totally based on that storyline) = Free and Action (People who are adventurous and Romantic) Just what the f**k are you on about ? What a load of pure nonsense and bullsh*t. Man shut up!

Can't you read that I said "my views"? If you really think this is bullsh*t, then don't read it. Just don't care about it. What is so hard in ignoring?
If you don't agree with me, fine. Just don't be a boss who can say crap and all. Do you have any reason why you are telling this? Just because you are supporting Miami and you start flaming all those who go against him, that ain't right. I am stopping this conversation with you. I replied to Miami so please, shut up.

[AlexGTAGamer]

Well GTA IV is my favourite out of the series, but that's down to a variety of factors that I really liked in the game (the characters, the story/history, the city, the little tiny details, etc.), but I feel that every GTA game is unique in their own manner, they all have their own feel and little things in them that make them special.

I don't mind people saying that GTA IV is not in their favourites book, we're all entitled to our own opinions, but it's just the whiners who come up with the most pathetic of excuses that grinds my gears.

[Official General]

QUOTE (Dr. John13 @ Monday, Aug 13 2012, 13:40)

QUOTE (Official General @ Monday, Aug 13 2012, 19:04) QUOTE (Dr. John13 @ Monday, Aug 13 2012, 13:31) Here are my views that who will like what GTA: GTA 3 = Variation (People who are naive) GTA VC = Free and Relaxation (People who are modest and relaxed) GTA SA = Gangsta and Action (People who are more like rap, etc) GTA 4 = Modern and Beautiful (People who love Modern living) GTA 5 (This one is totally based on that storyline) = Free and Action (People who are adventurous and Romantic) Just what the f**k are you on about ? What a load of pure nonsense and bullsh*t. Man shut up! Can't you read that I said "my views"? If you really think this is bullsh*t, then don't read it. Just don't care about it. What is so hard in ignoring? If you don't agree with me, fine. Just don't be a boss who can say crap and all. Do you have any reason why you are telling this? Just because you are supporting Miami and you start flaming all those who go against him, that ain't right. I am stopping this conversation with you. I replied to Miami so please, shut up.

I'll reply to whoever I want and whenever I want, it's a public forum.

Yo bro, all I have left to say to you is grow some brain cells, improve your grammar and learn to speak English properly. You gave very, very stupid and unlikely reasons for people liking certain GTA games better than other GTA games. So I expressed that your views are bullsh*t, because on the face of it they are. You said "people who like GTA III are those who are naive" - what the f**k is that supposed to mean ?

Man, think before you speak.

And if you must know, me and Miami disagree on many things to do with GTA for most part.