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 Posted: Thursday, Aug 16 2012, 06:16
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| QUOTE | | Just had my first ever sleep paralysis, about ten mins ago. I tried to make myself enter a lucid dream but I didn't manage to, any advice? |
Because you are in sleep paralysis, you should be able to visualize about anything. Think of what your enviourment looks like; with all the 5 senses. You need to build the enviourment. | QUOTE | | I couldn't sleep at all and suddenly felt pressed down in my bed and heard loads of wind sounds |
That pressure is common and people have described it as, a 'lead blanket'. The sound is a stage in sleep paralysis called, 'hypnagogic hallucinations'. You can see things, hear things etc. Relax and be calm in this stage as much as you can. | QUOTE | | but I didn't open my eyes as I've got a stressful morning ahead and seeing imaginary demons would've freaked me out. |
You don't have to open your eyes to 'see'. Try to visualize your surroundings instead. It is very difficult top open your eyes in sleep paralysis but it is possible. I have before, it is very odd. It's as if your eyes are trying to close by themselves. I also tried to call out for help the first time, but my vocals were paralyzed as well. Can I ask you, when did you have sleep paralysis and how- did you induce it or was it spontaneous. -----------------------------------------------------I've created an astral 'checkpoint'. Basically, it's a place I've created were people can visit when having a Lucid Dream or OOBE. All you do is examine the following image of the checkpoint that I've created and while in a LD or OOBE, try to visualize the checkpoint. I've called the checkpoint, 'The Dancing Tomato' only because it's an easy name to remember. It's just a name for now.  There are four interior rooms as you can see. When you visit 'The Dancing Tomato', you'll appear in the middle of the checkpoint in that circle. It is a small portal pod were you can choose which room you want to visit. In these rooms, you can visit about anyone, learn anything and think anything. Every thought you think while in the rooms, is left there if knowledgeable information. Before you leave, you must leave an object in one of the rooms to prove you were actually there; nothing big. It sounds silly but there has been other checkpoints before. Such as 'Astral Pulse Island'. Lets see if we can create 'The Dancing Tomato'!  This post has been edited by Coat. on Thursday, Aug 16 2012, 06:27
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| NikoGTA4 |
Posted: Wednesday, Aug 29 2012, 02:13
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So this morning, I had another interesting experience. I woke up at about 5AM to go for a piss and drink some water. I then got back to sleep. Then a few minutes after, I felt the sleep paralysis coming, so I decided to let myself go and take the opportunity. I heard the normal hypnagogic sounds. It started to sound like a bingo machine, you know the ones that blow air. I started to see the machine behind my eyelids.
I then let my dream leg on the side of the couch fall (I was sleeping in the living room), and rolled myself on the floor. I wasn't sure if I was really awoken or lucid dreaming. I then heard someone knocking at the door. It was a strange lady. She was getting a bit scary because she wanted to get into my house by any means possible, so I ran around the house to lock all the doors. She was running outside around the house. I then hid in another room of my house. Then it became really strange, the scenes were changing... I then lost most of my dream control but the rest of the dream was quite vivid.
Funny experience.
To be honest, I noticed that for me, if I want to induce a lucid dream by a sleep paralysis, it works better if I wake up, probably from a few minutes to one hour, then get back to sleep. Your body won't be fully awoken after the time you woke up, so when you get back to sleep, your mind gets back the the sleeping state you were when you woke up. So this way, you'll have big chances of having a sleep paralysis, and you'll be fully aware of it, because it normally kicks in after 3 or 4 minutes when you get back to sleep. By being fully aware of your SP, you simply need to let yourself go and you can see your dreams and control them. It's really a mind trick.
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| ghost of delete key |
Posted: Wednesday, Aug 29 2012, 02:54
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| QUOTE (El Zilcho @ Saturday, Jul 28 2012, 12:36) | | You're lucky, I've been dying to experience it and try to lucid dream for ages but I never get through... it's incredibly frustrating. |
Save your frustration, SP is nothing desirable, not by a long-shot. Have you ever had "adrenaline sickness" from a fright more than you can handle? Not a good feeling. Lucid dreaming is a whole other thing though; I used to frequently fall asleep yet still see and be aware. I would sometimes wake up realizing that my eyes were closed, and the transition was something like coming up out of water, and then the odd sensation of WTF. Once on a roadtrip, I fell asleep, eyes closed, yet was still watching the passing scenery. My mother chided me for passing out the way I did, though I maintained that I was wide awake. She laughed, and said that it was impossible, since my eyes were shut and my head drooped down, on the verge of drooling. I told her exactly what I had read on the highway sign we had just passed while I was "asleep". If you could have seen the look I got...  This post has been edited by ghost of delete key on Wednesday, Aug 29 2012, 02:56
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| Coat. |
Posted: Saturday, Oct 6 2012, 11:36
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| QUOTE (El Zilcho @ Wednesday, Aug 29 2012, 13:09) | | QUOTE (deepthroatgta6 @ Wednesday, Aug 29 2012, 13:45) | I dream about Lucid dreaming. Can that be called lucid dreaming?
A bit of description:
I was in a dream where I though I was Lucid dreaming but after waking up, I realized that whatever happened in that dream was in my control at that time but what I decided to do wasn't. |
I have also done this. I thought I'd finally cracked how to initiate one, only to truly wake up. Very irking. |
Sorry to bump this topic but, Deepthroatgta6... are you still trying to Lucid dream regularly. |
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| GTAfear |
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Yesterday I read this whole thread since I'm usually very interested in this kind of stuff (power of the mind, especially telekinesis, electrokinesis and making things happen with your mind), but I never really gave sleep paralysis a try. Now, someone reading this topic might think: "Yeah, right, now it's happening to everyone, get out of here!" But seriously, last night it happened twice to me! I hadn't experienced it until last night. Both of my SPs were very short, though. I didn't really do it on purpose and I didn't want to start trying just yesterday, I thought I'd give it a go in the next few days, but it happened (kind of) spontaneously. I remember having random thoughts about SPs, LDs and OBEs during the night, but I didn't really try any methods. As soon as I broke loose out of the first SP, I started planning my post in this topic, lol, but when it happened for the second time, I had to change some of it. :I So, anyway, both of my SPs started with / developed from these typical nightmarish dreams. I sometimes (rarely, actually) have these dreams and the "plot" is about me getting ready for school in the morning. BUT, what makes them terrible is a terribly strong feeling of anxiety and fear. It's like pure evil is surrounding me. TVs stop working and, most importantly, lights get "weak", like there's a black out or something (similar to "unknown origin" in the game F.E.A.R.). To make things short, during the dream I heard one or two moans. I think it was me in reality, but I don't know. I woke up. I opened my eyes, they felt swollen and weird (could be because of REM or something?). I was lying on my left side, turned towards my closet that has a red-brown mirror-like surface, so I could see my room in it. Everything looked really weird (similar to inFamous when you play as a bad guy, or in that mission when you get black tar all over yourself - exactly like that). When I realized I couldn't move, I knew that I was sleep paralyzed. I think it's true that the more you fight, the worse it gets. But I somehow immediately remembered that it's best to calm down, and as soon as I did - boom, I could move again!  It all happened in a matter of 2-3 seconds. Also, I think it was around 2 or 3 am. After several minutes of being awake, I had to go to the bathroom. While I was in there, I asked myself: "Am I dreaming? Is this an out-of-body experience? Am I going to see myself when I walk back to my room?" That didn't happen, lol. I fell asleep after some time... Second nightmare, same thing, only no moans. I woke up and this time it was a bit worse. Was lying on my back. I heard some kind of a wind, like many people said, and an exhale, a gasp. It sounded like a spirit or a zombie. My eyes felt swollen again. Only this time, I could move my entire head, but nothing else. Same thing, I calmed down and shortly after I could move again. Again, it was over in a couple of seconds. What confuses me is that I didn't feel quite conscious during the SPs. Awaken, but not really conscious. But there was no "transition" between the SP and full consciousness / reality... Like when you wake up from a normal dream, you know it was a dream and this now is reality, because of that "transition." I don't know how to exactly describe it. Well, my experiences weren't so bad and I'm definitely going to look more into it. I'm planning on learning how to get SPs, LDs and OBEs. Now, can someone explain the difference between these three? I understand it like this: SP - waking up, being conscious but not able to move your body, having mostly frightening visions and hallucinations LD - dreams in which you are fully conscious of yourself and can control everything that is happening, usually very vivid OBE - "separation" of your mind and your body, being able to go anywhere Is it right? sh*t, this is the usual me, always elaborating too much... I don't know if you'll trust me, guys, but I ain't bullsh*tting. Thank you very much. |
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| Coat. |
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| QUOTE | | So, anyway, both of my SPs started with / developed from these typical nightmarish dreams. I sometimes (rarely, actually) have these dreams and the "plot" is about me getting ready for school in the morning. BUT, what makes them terrible is a terribly strong feeling of anxiety and fear. It's like pure evil is surrounding me. TVs stop working and, most importantly, lights get "weak", like there's a black out or something (similar to "unknown origin" in the game F.E.A.R.). |
What seemed to play out during the beginning of the dream was false awakening. Things that may trigger the thought of you dreaming are the lighting, electronics not working and the feeling of something watching you. | QUOTE | | To make things short, during the dream I heard one or two moans. I think it was me in reality, but I don't know. I woke up. I opened my eyes, they felt swollen and weird (could be because of REM or something?). |
These moans are from yourself, trying to call out for help. When I had sleep paralysis on many occasions, I would literally become very worried and scared that some creature or animal was going to come get me while I was paralysed. Then I would begin to try to open my eyes and little and moan out, 'Help...' but my vocals were paralysed as well. | QUOTE | | I was lying on my left side, turned towards my closet that has a red-brown mirror-like surface, so I could see my room in it. Everything looked really weird |
In sleep paralysis, objects appear and disappear because you are not looking with your eyes. This is were the word, ' third eye' comes into topic. The third eye mimics our vision we view in reality. This is when sometimes the third eye can only create what it 'thinks' is in the room at the time. A desk may be over in the corner you used to have as a child but was removed, and when in sleep paralysis, you see it back in the corner, for example. That is why it happens. | QUOTE | | When I realized I couldn't move, I knew that I was sleep paralysed. I think it's true that the more you fight, the worse it gets. But I somehow immediately remembered that it's best to calm down, and as soon as I did - boom, I could move again! It all happened in a matter of 2-3 seconds. Also, I think it was around 2 or 3 am. |
I'm not sure about the more you fight it, the worse it gets. I think that's just a saying that people use with anything, and anything is possible while in sleep paralysis. You must of doubt about it, which creates a barrier, meaning if you think the more you fight it, the worse it gets, that will happen. My longest SP experience lasted a minute or so. About what time it happened, read about rapid eye movement. | QUOTE | | Second nightmare, same thing, only no moans. I woke up and this time it was a bit worse. Was lying on my back. I heard some kind of a wind, like many people said, and an exhale, a gasp. It sounded like a spirit or a zombie. My eyes felt swollen again. Only this time, I could move my entire head, but nothing else. Same thing, I calmed down and shortly after I could move again. Again, it was over in a couple of seconds. |
First of all, these aren't nightmares, this is reality. The noises you heard were hynagogic hallucinations: | QUOTE | | These hallucinations occur just before falling asleep, and affect a surprisingly high proportion of the population (in one survey 37% of the respondents experienced them twice a week). The hallucinations can last from seconds to minutes, all the while the subject usually remains aware of the true nature of the images. These may be associated with narcolepsy. Hypnagogic hallucinations are sometimes associated with brainstem abnormalities, but this is rare. |
Thing you may hear in these hallucinations can be trains, sucking noises, voices etc. Once, I was sleeping at a friends house and I woke up in the morning with SP. As my friend always snores, and me being paralysed, the noises of him snoring were amplified and it was going all out of tune. Sometimes during OOBE's or LD, the vision is amplified but not on this occasion. When you said your eyes felt swollen, they actually aren't. Have you ever been to the dentist and had to get a tooth taken out, and they use the numbing needle and afterwards, you feel like your mouth is swollen but it's actually not. Same goes with this. Your eyes aren't swollen, but they are heavy as your body thinks you are actually asleep so it just keeps your eyes shut. | QUOTE | | What confuses me is that I didn't feel quite conscious during the SPs. Awaken, but not really conscious. But there was no "transition" between the SP and full consciousness / reality... Like when you wake up from a normal dream, you know it was a dream and this now is reality, because of that "transition." I don't know how to exactly describe it. |
When you are in SP, you are in a 'deep sleep' state which relates with the sleeping cycle. The reason you don't feel like it has the same transition as a dream to fully consciousness is because you aren't fully aware of what's happening whilst in SP. The reason we have sleep paralysis, is so our body can shut down when we sleep. Every night we have sleep paralysis but we just don't know it. If we never had sleep paralysis, we'd be acting out what we were doing in our dreams. For example, I could be running in my dream but if I wasn't paralysed, you'd see me doing running actions. When you are aware you are in SP, you still aren't 100% you are awake; that's why it's a different transition. | QUOTE | Well, my experiences weren't so bad and I'm definitely going to look more into it. I'm planning on learning how to get SPs, LDs and OBEs.
Now, can someone explain the difference between these three? I understand it like this:
SP - waking up, being conscious but not able to move your body, having mostly frightening visions and hallucinations
LD - dreams in which you are fully conscious of yourself and can control everything that is happening, usually very vivid
OBE - "separation" of your mind and your body, being able to go anywhere
Is it right? |
Yes, you got it basically down pat. | QUOTE | sh*t, this is the usual me, always elaborating too much... I don't know if you'll trust me, guys, but I ain't bullsh*tting.
Thank you very much. |
You've just read some of my experiences whilst reading this, and I know you are being 100% truthful. One site I would recommend is lucidology101, and click here to go to his YouTube page. Also, I do think you should check out this forum. It's great but you get feedback from many other travellers. Good luck --- | QUOTE | | How can I do this, and/or lucid dream? I have slept through raging thunderstorms with the window open before so im a deep sleeper. It takes me 15 minutes to fall asleep most nights |
I don't exactly know what you're asking but if you are asking if you can lucid dream. Of course you can, anyone can do it. Can you give me more description to your question please.
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| GTAfear |
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@Coat. I don't think it was false awakening. Just a normal dream. Nightmare, that is. About things looking weird... I didn't see anything special. Everything was in it's place. It's simply like someone put some kind of a dark red-brown filter on my eyes. I agree, it may not be that the more you fight the worse it gets. It's probably going to be what you make it to be. But that's why I want to investigate this more, to see if there are any. I knooow it's reality. "Second nightmare" referred to the second dream, the one that lead to the second SP. And I know my eyes weren't really swollen, hence the word "felt" And yes, they were heavy. And yes, I know SP is actually our body being cut off from the brain and that it happens every night. Thanks, will check out the links you provided. |
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| QUOTE (0909090 @ Monday, Oct 8 2012, 12:30) | | I have read about this a lot in past months, it's very interesting, though after few weeks I have given up trying to "experience" this. Are there any good methods to do it?. I tried to lay still about 30minutes several times(I read that somewhere) but it didn't work. I think I have experienced it few times in past, but obviously I wasn't doing that on purpose. |
You don't want to experience it, apparently. People who have, even if they triggered it on their own, going in knowing what to expect, say that it's a hellish experience. A few months ago I got interested in attempting astral projection, which is supposedly a hell of a lot more difficult to trigger. If you're into meditation you can meditate to a binaural beat for astral projection (Some good free ones can be found on Youtube), and eventually you'll reach a state where your body starts pulsating and your heart starts beating fast (I got this far ~2.5 times), and supposedly if you don't panic you'll go into a paralysis-like state and your spirit can lift out of your body. The reason I bring this up is because people who say they've done astral projection compare the paralysis-like state to sleep paralysis, and it's said that you should try in the day because you can usually hallucinate if you do it at night. I didn't get a clarification on whether it was just like sleep paralysis, but maybe someone who's done both can add their input. |
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