[El Zilcho]

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QUOTE (deepthroatgta6 @ Monday, Aug 6 2012, 15:27) The moment when the wave of lead blanket comes, it causes much excitement and it'll make you concentrate on the sensations of your body. That's an important phase. Getting too excited can be an obstruction so chill out and let it pass smoothly because the later sensations are much more amazing. Yes, the trick is you have to forget about your body. Deepthroat- Good guide as well.

Tried it once more before, WILD that is, ended up semi-napping for a half hour without realising. When I got to sleep tonight I'll try using the alarm and that should help.

[DarrinPA]

QUOTE (deepthroatgta6 @ Monday, Aug 6 2012, 11:44)

www.world-of-lucid-dreaming.com/wake-induced-lucid-dreams.html

It gives a decent explanation in the "Visualization Method" part but there is an easier explanation. I posted my dumbed down method back in the Lucid Dreams thread.

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Here's the easiest way to do it. Daydream everytime before you go to sleep, it will begin to turn into a dream. You have to realize the first thing that is no longer your daydream but the start of a dream - WAKE YOURSELF UP and think about what it was that changed and pinpoint the last thing you had control of. Over time you will realize the difference and start to feel the change happening. Once you can tell the two apart from each other you will begin to have dream awarness - as you continue to be aware you should be able to make more rational decisions [or irrational depending on what type of person you are] it will be those decisions that you would make in real life that can be brough over to the dream world. IMO it all comes to to being able to make decisions that relate to who you really are and the way you think and use your mind- that's when you can control your dreams. Because control cannot exist if you can't make decisions, in dreams and real life.

[deepthroatgta6]

..and I failed at the same thing which I mentioned: Getting too excited about that wave of paralysis. Body is faintly numb even after waking. Quite trippy.
Experienced SP but no LD or OBE. Just some hazy brief random and odd scenes but not fully fledged dreams.
I was in SP then it washed off. I tried again and got back into that phase but did the same mistake again and wasn't able to proceed further. Entered and exited SP three to four times back to back. That feeling of being a rock hard statue is amazing but the LD part is too tough. Surely not an easy thing to master. Even after knowing the basics, its tough to carry it out. Practice makes a dreamer perfect. No worries, plenty of time to try it again.

This post has been edited by deepthroatgta6 on Tuesday, Aug 7 2012, 01:36

[Coat.]

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..and I failed at the same thing which I mentioned

Just because you failed to succeed doesn't mean you fail, but if you failed to attempt, that's the real failure. Sadly, I have to admit that I've been lacking off to attempt lately. Just to say, I was writing out this long guide but my power turned off so it may be shortened.

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I have experimented a lot with sleep paralysis a lot since it first happened to me. I just remember seeing a bright-light in my room and some figures moving about. I wasn't so much terrified as I was awe-struck and instantly wanted to repeat it. Since then I have have hit and mix success, not sure what the factor is but sometimes I just fall asleep and others I dip into sleep paralysis. Need to start learning to lucid dream, anyone got any well written, easy to comprehend lessons?

Like I said above, this guide may be shortened because my power went off and I find it hard to write out the exact work. Perhaps it's better I make it shorter; that way I don't go into extreme detail. Basically, the three things you need to do to become Lucid in a dream is:

• Reality checks
• Asking yourself, 'Am I Dreaming?'
• Keeping a dream journal

If you ask yourself through the day 'Am I dreaming,' it will become a mind over power routine and you'll be asking yourself every now and again until, you ask yourself whilst asleep. Keeping a dream journal is also important as well but the repetitiousness gets bothering. Not to worry though, because reality testing is the strongest technique. A very old ancient civilization used to imagine they were dreaming throughout the day, every day which gave them the ability to Lucid dream regularly; that's not a good technique nowadays only because it's out of human nature. Remembering and recalling dreams throughout the day is also a great practice skill. Talk to your friends and family about dreams to boost that extra knowledge and recall then before you know it, you'll be having LDs in no time.

I also want to add that Lucid Dreaming and Out-Of-Body experiences are the same. In Lucid Dreams, you get that 'power' when realizing you are dreaming and in an OBE, the 'power' comes usually during a Sleep Paralysis episode. Lucid Dreaming, you usually end up in a dream universe but when OBE-ing, you may either end up in Phase 1 or Phase 2.

Phase 1- This time and space we live right now. ie; your bedroom, house, neighborhood, planet.

Phase 2- Another universe in a different time and space.

Once in a Lucid Dream, to keep the Lucidness lasting, asking yourself questions like; 'Why am I here,' 'What is this place,' 'Where are life forms'. That will keep the curiosity pumping and the lucidness going even longer. The experience usually only lasts about a few minutes but you will never forget your first LD. In my first one, I flew over a pine forest with friends and created a jelly bean and the lollies color and it tasted like it. Pretty cool!

[El Zilcho]

Took me an hour but last night I felt intense numbness, followed by what felt like intense and full paralysis. I heard a few sounds and some hallucinations of flashes of light. But my body seemed to back away from this, returning to the numbness (not full paralysis). I was suitably disappointed, and I felt in pain later (most probably the intense roll over signal). After the second hour(ish) I was getting tired and couldn't be bothered waiting even longer, especially after the previous near miss. So I rolled over and went to bed.

[deepthroatgta6]

I had experienced the same last night. As I said, I kept going in and out of SP. It obviously is frustrating but its like a weed trip: the more you think why it is not happening, the more chances that it won't happen.

Mind never takes a negative command.
You cannot stop thinking about a monkey if you think about not thinking about a monkey.

If you were trying to lucid dream, you must understand that dreams do not start before you sleep. The mind really has to be calm to start dreaming. You should try to sleep. The only requirement is to maintain consciousness somehow. Just keep counting numbers. You'll be there by 300.

The process after SP is really tough and I haven't succeeded in my last two tries but I've learnt from them. I'm sure I'll be able to lucid dream tonight and there is always an option to have an OBE if a dream doesn't start. I'm actually more interested in OBE than LD.

I read somewhere that you should be positively thinking about LD the whole day to ready your mind.

Edit: This just worked:

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Listen to Binaural Beats. Binaural Beats are often used to induce lucid dreams, and many assure this method dramatically improves success rate. Theoretically, listening to Binaural Beats lowers brain frequencies, triggering different effects such as relaxation and dream induction. Look for Theta binaural beats, as they use the same brainwave frequency used in dreams. You may also want to listen to Alpha and Delta binaural beats as they help you relax and fall into non-REM sleep.

I'm sure there'll be an app in most smartphone markets for binaural beats. I got it off my windows phone. Makes it so simple to end the thoughts and get lost in the mind.

This post has been edited by deepthroatgta6 on Tuesday, Aug 7 2012, 17:06

[Coat.]

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Took me an hour but last night I felt intense numbness, followed by what felt like intense and full paralysis. I heard a few sounds and some hallucinations of flashes of light. But my body seemed to back away from this, returning to the numbness (not full paralysis).

The hallucinations and waves of SP actually calm down. They usually hit hard and leave quickly were everything seems to be very peaceful and calm.

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I was suitably disappointed, and I felt in pain later (most probably the intense roll over signal).

That was most defiantly the roll over signal.

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After the second hour(ish) I was getting tired and couldn't be bothered waiting even longer, especially after the previous near miss. So I rolled over and went to bed.

It seemed like your body wasn't primed for SP or your mind was too active. I'm not exactly sure to be honest.

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I'm sure I'll be able to lucid dream tonight and there is always an option to have an OBE if a dream doesn't start. I'm actually more interested in OBE than LD.

That's me as well. I'd rather like the venture of inducing an OOBE rather than falling into an LD.



I set my alarm for 3:30AM and woke up to turn it off but was way too sleep and in a dream state. I need to ask, how can I try to get up when I'm on the border of wake or sleep. It's really difficult. Thanks.

[Urban Legend]

SP has freaked me out before...I usually feel a great weight on my chest and I wake shortly thereafter but I bet if my brain was like RELAX it could be taken somewhere deeper. I'm gonna be trying this.

Coat you seem like a cool dude. Change your profile thing you misspelled groovin'

[Coat.]

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SP has freaked me out before...I usually feel a great weight on my chest and I wake shortly thereafter but I bet if my brain was like RELAX it could be taken somewhere deeper.

That feeling of 'weight' in the chest area is very common. When you feel the weight, let it take its toll because as you feel it happening, your body is shutting down into SP 'mode'. To deepen the SP, use the "phantom hand" method mentioned above whilst in deep sleep paralysis. When you feel the weight, stay alert and count down from 100 to 0. By the time you reach 0, try using the Phantom hands and try to visualize a vivid enviournment. Try to hear birds, cars and wind- if you are into running, try to get that feeling of running.

REMEMBER, don't try to look for the enviournment with your eyes, 'visualize' it.

If you want to exit from your 'body', try using your Phantom hands to pull yourself of the bed. You can exit many, many ways; either by, floating out, sinking down and out, rolling out, climbing out or even swinging out. They're so many ways of exit.

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Coat you seem like a cool dude. Change your profile thing you misspelled groovin'

Thanks man, and I fixed up my profile.

I also might as well add, if you get SP regularly, you have a better chance than anyone who has to induce it. PM me or post here if you have any bothering questions. Goodluck!

This post has been edited by Coat. on Sunday, Aug 12 2012, 07:33

[deepthroatgta6]

This is getting frustrating. I f*cking sleep off everytime I get in full SP.
F*ck you LD! You never come for me.

This post has been edited by deepthroatgta6 on Monday, Aug 13 2012, 06:21

[Coat.]

QUOTE (deepthroatgta6 @ Monday, Aug 13 2012, 06:19)

This is getting frustrating. I f*cking sleep off everytime I get in full SP. F*ck you LD! You never come for me.

Tell me your experience, and we'll go over what went wrong step by step.

[deepthroatgta6]

QUOTE (Coat. @ Monday, Aug 13 2012, 11:52)

QUOTE (deepthroatgta6 @ Monday, Aug 13 2012, 06:19) This is getting frustrating. I f*cking sleep off everytime I get in full SP. F*ck you LD! You never come for me. Tell me your experience, and we'll go over what went wrong step by step.

As mentioned in my previous posts, I sometimes keep entering and exiting SP. The last five nights, I used theta binaural sound waves which easily led me to SP, it was all good but then I fell asleep.. Real good sleep but I wish to dream lucid.

Save me from this excruciating pain, good sir. I want to dream.

[Coat.]

QUOTE (deepthroatgta6 @ Monday, Aug 13 2012, 06:27)

QUOTE (Coat. @ Monday, Aug 13 2012, 11:52) QUOTE (deepthroatgta6 @ Monday, Aug 13 2012, 06:19) This is getting frustrating. I f*cking sleep off everytime I get in full SP. F*ck you LD! You never come for me. Tell me your experience, and we'll go over what went wrong step by step. As mentioned in my previous posts, I sometimes keep entering and exiting SP. The last five nights, I used theta binaural sound waves which easily led me to SP, it was all good but then I fell asleep.. Real good sleep but I wished to dream lucid.

You're telling me, that you get into sleep paralysis but keep moving in and out of it. Right? Well, I'm guessing you are using binaural beats whilst in sleep paralysis. What I want to know is, why can't you use the beats as a focus to stay alert?

[deepthroatgta6]

Usually the sound clip ends by the time I'm in SP so I'm on my own later. The numbing effect makes me too conscious and ends the SP. The last five night, I got semi-conscious and never realised when I fell asleep.

[Coat.]

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Usually the sound clip ends by the time I'm in SP so I'm on my own later.

Put some more sound clips onto your iPod. The reason the following below is happening is because, you loose focus. The beats keep your mind focused but when they end, you are in SP by yourself and to the sounds of it, you aren't using any focus methods.

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The numbing effect makes me too conscious and ends the SP. The last five night, I got semi-conscious and never realised when I fell asleep.

I don't think you'll realize the numbness if you are listening to the binaural beats. Use visualization techniques as you listen to the music to lure yourself into a LD.

[deepthroatgta6]

Its an app in my phone which plays the clip. I'll stretch the auto off timing from the usual 15 minutes to an hour. The lucid dreaming clip is a mixture of theta and alpha waves. Alpha waves help maintaining consciousness. I can realize now that its abrupt end in the mid of SP pushes me to sleep in absence of the alpha waves. I'll try what you suggested. Thanks.

[Coat.]

QUOTE (deepthroatgta6 @ Monday, Aug 13 2012, 06:57)

Its an app in my phone which plays the clip. I'll stretch the auto off timing from the usual 15 minutes to an hour. The lucid dreaming clip is a mixture of theta and alpha waves. Alpha waves help maintaining consciousness. I can realize now that its abrupt end in the mid of SP pushes me to sleep in absence of the alpha waves. I'll try what you suggested. Thanks.

No problem, and remember, the binuarl beats are a training wheel. Try not to relay on them all the time.

Can you give me a link to that app if possible.

[CubA_iLL_BrothA]

Yes the mind is very powerful tool. Over Body Experience is what got me.
Like I said in the "UFO" topic is true. The Chakra Body System and UFOs and Planets all have a Body effect on all of us... No matter if you believe it or not, it's a fact.

[deepthroatgta6]

I read the description in the app again. It isn't theta and alpha. Its Delta, high beta and gamma waves. I thought theta waves were required for SP.

Its a windows phone app named BrainWaver: http://www.windowsphone.com/en-US/apps/461...3f-77c954f7a74f
Link might not work.

Reverse image search this. There are many other apps on android as well.

This post has been edited by deepthroatgta6 on Monday, Aug 13 2012, 07:11

[Coat.]

Try these tunes here. Last night, I did a WBTB and listened to this iso-tune (Lucid spike). It's silent for 20 minutes but then the sound comes in. I decided to take my earphones out after a while and rolled over to sleep. A few minutes later, I wasn't sure if I was awake or a sleep, but I rolled over out of bed and ended up in my bedroom. My grandparents were in the house and I went outside to see my bird in my cage. I was just saying that to get outside. I jumped off the veranda, and glided up high in the sky. My grandparent tried to jump onto my legs but I pushed them off. Everything after that was hazy.