[Xplosive_killerX]

QUOTE (glenn tha killer @ Friday, Jul 27 2012, 00:16)

It doesn`t matter if you`ve heard of me or not, your wrong and I`m hear to help. Don`t get me wrong, I like the Irish gangs kicking off but they need to be right rather then wrong.

woah i was on the first page waiting for someone to say something not noticing we were already on the second -.-,to get to my point
its great that your helping us and im sorry we disrespected your culture i know parts of the story dont make much sense i said in one of the first page posts we are working on the story becuase of things that you mentioned in the story we would gladly accept your help

[glenn tha killer]

QUOTE (glenn tha killer @ Friday, Jul 27 2012, 00:22)

QUOTE Message Forwarded From SDM_DON if i offended ireland i know dublin is a city in Ireland but i seriously looked to see if anyone had a name like what i made and we are PS3 Ok, right. First of all establish what you are. Your mixed up with time, and history. There`s three ways you could go. 1800`s street gang, 30`s-40`s Mobs, or 60`s-70`s-80`s Neighborhood thugs. Theres also actual gangs in Ireland. I can send you links, tell you what books to get if you`re a real fan and also give you my two cents on how to keep the culture while leading your gang in the best way possible. Just tell me what and all inform you in the best way.

I jsut thought I`d show that to the members to.

And yeah its fine lads, sh*t happens.

[SDM_DON]

QUOTE (glenn tha killer @ Friday, Jul 27 2012, 00:24)

Alright just read my post and make a decision.

yea we want it to start in when the famine took place

[nic_23]

glad you guys worked that one out, glenn should be very helpful as this is where he lives and he has a big history of running an irish gang. once again good luck

[MMD-FireBird]

QUOTE (glenn tha killer @ Friday, Jul 27 2012, 00:11)

No you know what f*ck it, your just another bunch of stupid foreigners that don`t know sh*t about my country, people or culture. Dublin is the name of the city I live in, there`s no such thing as St.Dublin, and its way beyond me why an Italian mafia made by 1840`s Irish immigrants that had Thompson s would even be relivent to a make believe Catholic Saint. And to make it worse everyone in the gang are ignorant Americans ha. Stupid Irish loving Americans, they never know sh*t... @Nic, No, lad, it makes no sence, and when its bullsh*t about my country I`ll always take it seriously. Edit: Also its not too late.

Haha get em Glenn

[St. Dublin Mafia]

The new avatars are up thanks Narcis.

[SDM_DON]

QUOTE (glenn tha killer @ Friday, Jul 27 2012, 00:27)

QUOTE (glenn tha killer @ Friday, Jul 27 2012, 00:22) QUOTE Message Forwarded From SDM_DON if i offended ireland i know dublin is a city in Ireland but i seriously looked to see if anyone had a name like what i made and we are PS3 Ok, right. First of all establish what you are. Your mixed up with time, and history. There`s three ways you could go. 1800`s street gang, 30`s-40`s Mobs, or 60`s-70`s-80`s Neighborhood thugs. Theres also actual gangs in Ireland. I can send you links, tell you what books to get if you`re a real fan and also give you my two cents on how to keep the culture while leading your gang in the best way possible. Just tell me what and all inform you in the best way. I jsut thought I`d show that to the members to. And yeah its fine lads, sh*t happens.

yea seriously sorry i shouldn't gone stupid

[SDM_DON]

alright see you guys later great first day and i go stupid hopefuly its gets better bye sorry for double posting

This post has been edited by SDM_DON on Friday, Jul 27 2012, 00:43

[glenn tha killer]

Alright grand. So, you`d want to find out a tiny bit about that. So the blight which effects the stem of the potato came. Everyone depended on the potato crop, taxes were payed by potato to mainly British protestant Land Lords who rented out homes, farms and shops. The reason why it effected the food its self was because the stem provided nutrients to it, therefore when the stem rots the actually potato becomes a black mush.

Now more people left then died, and the majority went on trading ships that were used to smuggle them in for extra pay for the crew or company. A famous famine ship is the Dunbrody (Click here). They were nick named Coffin Ships due to the hundreds who died on board. Many people had to collect enough money when they could, and leave there towns to the nearest port in the middle of the night. Many people disappeared because they were in fear of the land lords finding out and removing everything they owned, including the money they needed to leave.

Money wasn`t to be sent home, nor was letters. Many elderly parents were thrown of there land because the lord found out money was being sent back to pay taxes from there run away family.

Ok, so now the gangs. I suggest you look into the book `Paddy Wacked` by T.J English. So basically you had these street gangs, mainly Irish ones. Especial in the 5 points area of New York. They had conflicts with the patriotic Americans who were more northern 5 points. THe Gangs of New York is a dramtic but realistic account of Irish gangs. You had the Dead Rabbits, Whyos, Forty Thieves, Kerryonians, Roach Guards, you can find out more Here.


I`ll get you more info now. Seems how your gone till tomorrow, I`ll have time to prepare more facts that may help you.

[ddog1450]

QUOTE (glenn tha killer @ Friday, Jul 27 2012, 00:49)

Alright grand. So, you`d want to find out a tiny bit about that. So the blight which effects the stem of the potato came. Everyone depended on the potato crop, taxes were payed by potato to mainly British protestant Land Lords who rented out homes, farms and shops. The reason why it effected the food its self was because the stem provided nutrients to it, therefore when the stem rots the actually potato becomes a black mush. Now more people left then died, and the majority went on trading ships that were used to smuggle them in for extra pay for the crew or company. A famous famine ship is the Dunbrody (Click here). They were nick named Coffin Ships due to the hundreds who died on board. Many people had to collect enough money when they could, and leave there towns to the nearest port in the middle of the night. Many people disappeared because they were in fear of the land lords finding out and removing everything they owned, including the money they needed to leave. Money wasn`t to be sent home, nor was letters. Many elderly parents were thrown of there land because the lord found out money was being sent back to pay taxes from there run away family. Ok, so now the gangs. I suggest you look into the book `Paddy Wacked` by T.J English. So basically you had these street gangs, mainly Irish ones. Especial in the 5 points area of New York. They had conflicts with the patriotic Americans who were more northern 5 points. THe Gangs of New York is a dramtic but realistic account of Irish gangs. You had the Dead Rabbits, Whyos, Forty Thieves, Kerryonians, Roach Guards, you can find out more Here. I`ll get you more info now. Seems how your gone till tomorrow, I`ll have time to prepare more facts that may help you.

Cool man thanks for the info it will be handy

[SDM_DON]

QUOTE (glenn tha killer @ Friday, Jul 27 2012, 00:49)

Alright grand. So, you`d want to find out a tiny bit about that. So the blight which effects the stem of the potato came. Everyone depended on the potato crop, taxes were payed by potato to mainly British protestant Land Lords who rented out homes, farms and shops. The reason why it effected the food its self was because the stem provided nutrients to it, therefore when the stem rots the actually potato becomes a black mush. Now more people left then died, and the majority went on trading ships that were used to smuggle them in for extra pay for the crew or company. A famous famine ship is the Dunbrody (Click here). They were nick named Coffin Ships due to the hundreds who died on board. Many people had to collect enough money when they could, and leave there towns to the nearest port in the middle of the night. Many people disappeared because they were in fear of the land lords finding out and removing everything they owned, including the money they needed to leave. Money wasn`t to be sent home, nor was letters. Many elderly parents were thrown of there land because the lord found out money was being sent back to pay taxes from there run away family. Ok, so now the gangs. I suggest you look into the book `Paddy Wacked` by T.J English. So basically you had these street gangs, mainly Irish ones. Especial in the 5 points area of New York. They had conflicts with the patriotic Americans who were more northern 5 points. THe Gangs of New York is a dramtic but realistic account of Irish gangs. You had the Dead Rabbits, Whyos, Forty Thieves, Kerryonians, Roach Guards, you can find out more Here. I`ll get you more info now. Seems how your gone till tomorrow, I`ll have time to prepare more facts that may help you.

thank you glenn so much information it will be useful indeed

[glenn tha killer]

Right, so the gangs would of used melee weapons, and for the majority of the Whoy`s time the US (Well at least NY did) had two police forces, one for each political party ( As in Democrates and, the other brosky`s). And the end of the day, the police would end up in shoot outs with each other. The Whyos had two leaders, were involved in prostitution, extortion and the usual stuff.

QUOTE (Wikipedia)

Aside from committing many crimes, the Whyos also offered specific criminal services for a price. The following list was found on Piker Ryan when he was arrested by the NYPD in 1884.     Punching $1     Both eyes blacked $3     Nose and jaw broke $7     Jacked out (knocked out with a Blackjack) $15     Ear chewed off $15     Leg or arm broke $19     Shot in the leg $20     Stab $21.50     "Doing the big job" (murder) $100 and up

[Xplosive_killerX]

this stuff looks pretty sweet we will get as much of this to get related in to the story of frank

thanks for the help glenn

[nic_23]

hey did you get your psn names right in the roster because that bigt guy messaged me saying he added SDM_DON

in the roster it says SDM-DON i think he got a little confused.

[SDM_DON]

QUOTE (glenn tha killer @ Friday, Jul 27 2012, 01:15)

Right, so the gangs would of used melee weapons, and for the majority of the Whoy`s time the US (Well at least NY did) had two police forces, one for each political party ( As in Democrates and, the other brosky`s). And the end of the day, the police would end up in shoot outs with each other. The Whyos had two leaders, were involved in prostitution, extortion and the usual stuff. QUOTE (Wikipedia) Aside from committing many crimes, the Whyos also offered specific criminal services for a price. The following list was found on Piker Ryan when he was arrested by the NYPD in 1884.     Punching $1     Both eyes blacked $3     Nose and jaw broke $7     Jacked out (knocked out with a Blackjack) $15     Ear chewed off $15     Leg or arm broke $19     Shot in the leg $20     Stab $21.50     "Doing the big job" (murder) $100 and up

wow and yea we are going to change some things up and do you know the name to irish mafia ranks i assume you know

[glenn tha killer]

No problem. Also try to use names such as Sèan, Cathal, Joseph,Gerald, Micheal ect.. and as the gang grows into the 20`s up use the average Catholic names such as Frank, and Tony.

I`m glad to be helping.

Ok, wait for the edit, I`ll work something out as there`s no real ranks, just a social pecking order.

[BiggT]

QUOTE (SDM_DON @ Friday, Jul 27 2012, 01:23)

QUOTE (glenn tha killer @ Friday, Jul 27 2012, 01:15) Right, so the gangs would of used melee weapons, and for the majority of the Whoy`s time the US (Well at least NY did) had two police forces, one for each political party ( As in Democrates and, the other brosky`s). And the end of the day, the police would end up in shoot outs with each other. The Whyos had two leaders, were involved in prostitution, extortion and the usual stuff. QUOTE (Wikipedia) Aside from committing many crimes, the Whyos also offered specific criminal services for a price. The following list was found on Piker Ryan when he was arrested by the NYPD in 1884.     Punching $1     Both eyes blacked $3     Nose and jaw broke $7     Jacked out (knocked out with a Blackjack) $15     Ear chewed off $15     Leg or arm broke $19     Shot in the leg $20     Stab $21.50     "Doing the big job" (murder) $100 and up wow and yea we are going to change some things up and do you know the name to irish mafia ranks i assume you know

Captians instead of capos and instead of godfather boss

[glenn tha killer]

Ok so there was no ranks, or at least that the modern world knew. The gangs had away of being more secretive about stuff if they wanted to be. So instead, there was nick names, tag lines, little sayings. They would be attached to a person or a type of character. So, get each member to make a bio, send it to me if you want so I can fix or add to it. Its stops un realistic ranks which I did in my Xbox Gang. Once the leader and co leader is established the rest should lay on what type of work they do, or are good at.

[SCAR l Reflex]

Idk if this is to late but good luck!

[St. Dublin Mafia]

QUOTE (SCAR l Reflex @ Friday, Jul 27 2012, 01:48)

Idk if this is to late but good luck!

Thanks! are you guys xbox