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 Pushing The Boundaries of Moral/Social Acceptence

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Posted: Tuesday, Jul 24 2012, 22:34
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QUOTE (AuSsIeThUnDeR36 @ Tuesday, Jul 24 2012, 17:10)
They can't stop us killing dogs in gta v because i remember killing dogs, coyotes and wolves in RDR. What's the difference?

RDR takes place in an era before domestic animals were granted the rights and legal protections that they are today, in addition, RDR takes place in the Wild West. That's the difference.
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Posted: Tuesday, Jul 24 2012, 22:52
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From Hot Coffee to a digital penis, R* have done it all. I feel that they can't do anymore to piss off the Jack Thompson crowd.
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QUOTE (ThePinkFloydSound @ Tuesday, Jul 24 2012, 19:15)
Can Rockstar be those boundary pushing rebels they used to be or are Rockstar losing their balls?

I'd love GTA to push boundaries again and make me go whoah! I can't believe they put that in a game! The last thing GTA did that made me feel slightly like that was when you see that slut suck Luis off in the backroom of that club. Or that dudes penis. But that's cutscene stuff.

I just hope there will be some sort of controversy in some of the criminal acts that will make me laugh and get giddy like a madman possessed.

The prostitute thing is old but it was certainly ballsy including it. Games like Manhunt and The Warriors were very violent and really pushed the limits of the censors.

What can you guys imagine Rockstar may have up their wizards slieve for V? Or are they toning it down as they get older?

The Warriors was based off a very amazing movie, so I don't think it was pushing anything.
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Posted: Tuesday, Jul 24 2012, 23:03
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drunk driving was the controversy around IV.

Smoking pot and getting high the GTA V version of it?

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Posted: Tuesday, Jul 24 2012, 23:18
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I don't think it's something they need to do, if it fits with the game and is relevant then go for it. But if it's in the game just for the sake of "pushing the limits" then that would be pointless. R* don't need to prove a point or make a statement, they've been doing it for over 10 years. I thought the penis in BOGT was funny more than anything, I don't think it was controversial at all.

Maybe we'll finally see strippers without their nipples covered, if we've seen a cock then a full breast is nothing.
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I know this sounds messed up but if there is kids in the game. I want there to be a person who acts really werid and is a pedo. So I can kill him
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Posted: Tuesday, Jul 24 2012, 23:25
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If there are police attack dogs, we'll definatly be killing animals, how else could you defend yourself?
Is there any kind of major dog fighting ring in LA???
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Posted: Tuesday, Jul 24 2012, 23:28
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I, like anyone else, have no idea what R* has up their sleeves this time, but I'm certainly hoping it will be something spectacular. These days you'd think it would be easier to push the limits that it was 10 years ago. I'm hoping for something really extreme like full frontal nudity, limbs flying off when shot with a powerful weapon or when hit by a car in high speed, maybe a sex mini-game or at least a sex scene. Being the sick f*ck I am, I wouldn't mind getting to rape someone. devil.gif

I think it's time for R* to become more aggressive again. IV didn't really contain any chocking material from what I can remember, at least not in original IV without the expansions. I know the penis was in one of the expansions, but It was in a cutscene and not really extreme in my opinion.

Even though I highly, HIGHLY doubt it would be possible, I'd like to see children in the game. Even killable children. I know it's pretty much as extreme as you can go, and R* would probably not get to sell the game even, that's why I think it wouldn't be in it, but I'd still like to see it. It would add to the realism to have kids in the game and I myself would probably not kill them anyway because it would make me feel really bad, just like killing animals would sad.gif
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QUOTE (StratovariusFTW @ Tuesday, Jul 24 2012, 23:28)
Being the sick f*ck I am, I wouldn't mind getting to rape someone.  devil.gif

A kid perhaps? suicidal.gif

On a more serious note I doubt rape will be in GTA V as it's to much of a sensitive subject. Max Payne 3 got away with it due to the setting as it's quite conmen in São Paulo I assume and it fits into the story. However in GTA V due to the setting it wouldn't be appropriate and R* for sure won't let the protagonist rape someone.

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QUOTE (StratovariusFTW @ Tuesday, Jul 24 2012, 23:28)
wouldn't mind getting to rape someone. devil.gif


I really hope that's a joke. Anyways, will always be lines that they cannot cross. That, that right there, is one of them. Killable kids, and babies as some have suggested, is another one.
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If i remember correctly, in the first GTA, you did a mission where you drove a guy while he raped someone in the back seat.. So it's not as though they haven't flirted with the subject.
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The only game that actively allowed the player to rape, was 'Custer's last Stand' which was an abomination. That's one of the last great taboos I suppose. Myself, I wouldn't buy a game that allowed the player to participate in rape.

If they included a mission where you kidnap an FBI agent (or G W Bush ... W G Busch), fly him across the map to a secret prison, water board him repeatedly till he admits to being a criminal. That might get the media interested.
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QUOTE (JugularXJ220 @ Wednesday, Jul 25 2012, 00:09)
The only game that actively allowed the player to rape, was 'Custer's last Stand' which was an abomination. That's one of the last great taboos I suppose. Myself, I wouldn't buy a game that allowed the player to participate in rape.

If they included a mission where you kidnap an FBI agent (or G W Bush ... W G Busch), fly him across the map to a secret prison, water board him repeatedly till he admits to being a criminal. That might get the media interested.

The thing is, they shouldn't put somthing in the game, just to stir up controversy. That's just dumb.
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QUOTE (azali10 @ Wednesday, Jul 25 2012, 00:25)
QUOTE (JugularXJ220 @ Wednesday, Jul 25 2012, 00:09)
The only game that actively allowed the player to rape, was 'Custer's last Stand' which was an abomination.  That's one of the last great taboos I suppose.  Myself, I wouldn't buy a game that allowed the player to participate in rape.

If they included a mission where you kidnap an FBI agent (or G W Bush ... W G Busch), fly him across the map to a secret prison, water board him repeatedly till he admits to being a criminal.  That might get the media interested.

The thing is, they shouldn't put somthing in the game, just to stir up controversy. That's just dumb.

Not saying they SHOULD. But treading the line, getting the media stirred-up, has proven to be a hugely successful marketing tool. (Mortal Kombat, GTA I ... etc etc)
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QUOTE (JugularXJ220 @ Tuesday, Jul 24 2012, 20:30)
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The only game that actively allowed the player to rape, was 'Custer's last Stand' which was an abomination.  That's one of the last great taboos I suppose.  Myself, I wouldn't buy a game that allowed the player to participate in rape.

If they included a mission where you kidnap an FBI agent (or G W Bush ... W G Busch), fly him across the map to a secret prison, water board him repeatedly till he admits to being a criminal.  That might get the media interested.

The thing is, they shouldn't put somthing in the game, just to stir up controversy. That's just dumb.

Not saying they SHOULD. But treading the line, getting the media stirred-up, has proven to be a hugely successful marketing tool. (Mortal Kombat, GTA I ... etc etc)

R* are known for attention grabbing publicity stunts. The Hot Coffee pornographic X rated sexual intercourse climax minigame scandal was one of them.
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Killable babies? Serious bro.. That's messed up
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QUOTE (MIKON8ERISBACK @ Wednesday, Jul 25 2012, 02:35)
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The only game that actively allowed the player to rape, was 'Custer's last Stand' which was an abomination.  That's one of the last great taboos I suppose.  Myself, I wouldn't buy a game that allowed the player to participate in rape.

If they included a mission where you kidnap an FBI agent (or G W Bush ... W G Busch), fly him across the map to a secret prison, water board him repeatedly till he admits to being a criminal.  That might get the media interested.

The thing is, they shouldn't put somthing in the game, just to stir up controversy. That's just dumb.

Not saying they SHOULD. But treading the line, getting the media stirred-up, has proven to be a hugely successful marketing tool. (Mortal Kombat, GTA I ... etc etc)

R* are known for attention grabbing publicity stunts. The Hot Coffee pornographic X rated sexual intercourse climax minigame scandal was one of them.

Hot coffee is an example of going too far. Not for moral reasons. Just because this a video game, not a porno.

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There has been found evidence that a lot more sex was going to be in gta sa because 3 different brothels interiors were found in the blue heaven, but no brothels exist in the game, yet when you are in blue heaven, you can visit the brothel rooms, each with their own themes. Obviously they decided to leave the interiors in the game to be discovered
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Posted: Wednesday, Jul 25 2012, 03:58
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I tried to avoid replying on this kind of topic, but my fingers betrayed me...

Naked women, naked men, driving drunk, using drugs, killing children, killing animals, raping children, raping animals... Put some tentacles there and we'll have a Japanese game instead of GTA...

Really guys, answer sincerely: do you really buy a game because you wanna kill animals and rape someone in the backseat, or do you buy because the game is fun?
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RDR had animals, and nobody said squat about animal cruelty. Frankly, there isn't much that hasn't been done already. The "hot coffee" mod was a LONG time ago, and people have become desensitized to just about everything. Saints Row is about as over the top as it gets, and is proof that more is not necessarily better. There was no outcry over Saints Row, and i doubt there is anything Rockstar could come up with that will rattle anyone outside of some douchebag trying to make a name for themselves.
GTA has become more of a symbol than anything else. In truth, there are FAR worse games in terms of content that pushes any social boundaries. Max Payne 3 is gorier and more sexually explicit than anything GTA has done before, and there hasn't been any backlash from anyone. Fortunately, GTA has stood the test of time because they are better than a game that relies on gimmicks, like trying to shock people for attention.
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