[Pansy.]

QUOTE (El_Diablo @ Wednesday, Aug 8 2012, 11:09)

secondly, I don't care what the general opinion is. I'm entitled to my own.

People only pull that card when they're getting they're getting buttf*cked by everyone else.

QUOTE (El_Diablo @ Wednesday, Aug 8 2012, 11:09)

disabled athletics should be separated from able athletics.

That's where you're wrong. Whilst yes, Oscar Pistorius would have a better chance in the Paralympics, he can clearly compete in the Olympics - he got to the semi's of the 400m. Drawing lines between gender and disabilities is ridiculous - women, on the most part, can't compete with men in athletic sports which is generally why they're separated, plus it's the most natural and even physical boundary to see. Whilst clearly we can see a disabled athlete competing with some of the best able bodied athletes in the world - not us normal people (that point is stupid).

QUOTE (El_Diablo @ Wednesday, Aug 8 2012, 11:09)

it's about having a balanced and fair playing field for everyone involved.

And there again, that point is so f*cking stupid - clearly it is fair, he got to the semi's, beating some top class athletes for f*cks sake. And balanced? I don't even know what the f*ck that's supposed to mean to be quite honest.

QUOTE (El_Diablo @ Wednesday, Aug 8 2012, 11:09)

if you start letting athletes with prosthetics compete in any event then one day you're going to have to decide whether or not it's an unfair advantage to have carbon-fiber limbs when everyone else has flesh and blood limbs.

If it gets to that point where it gives them an advantage - yes, they shouldn't be allowed to compete. I'm more than certain they had tests on Oscar Pistorius' prosthetic legs one way or another to even allow him to compete in the Olympics. He didn't win - the times for 400m in the Paralympics is a lot slower than in the Olympics, so even then it's clear they're not giving him an advantage.


And your final point's irrelevant to me, people bringing that up can't exactly use that as a legitimate point now, can they?

[Robinski]

He was fine.

[Rebel]

That's not the first time its happened. One of the English women in that sport basically didn't get the pole into the metal position box properly just as she flung herself over the bar and basically did a 180/360 in the air back to where she started. Luckily I don't think there was any damage done but they replayed it about 4 times just after it happened and the commentators hated it.

[Robinski]

QUOTE (Rebel @ Wednesday, Aug 8 2012, 15:38)

That's not the first time its happened. One of the English women in that sport basically didn't get the pole into the metal position box properly just as she flung herself over the bar and basically did a 180/360 in the air back to where she started. Luckily I don't think there was any damage done but they replayed it about 4 times just after it happened and the commentators hated it.

Yeah that will have been Kate Dennison. Pole didn't snap but she twisted her ankle and wrist and got knocked out of the competition.

BMX time trials started today.


There was some... bad luck.. today there as well

[4 Bagger]

@Robinski: I'm not really great on pole vault and I don't really know how it works. Does it count as a foul try, or does the athlete get to try again due to faulty equipment?

[Robinski]

I think he was offered another jump but didn't take it. Probably pretty shook up by that.

[docrikowski]

QUOTE (El_Diablo @ Wednesday, Aug 8 2012, 11:09)

but this doesn't change the fact that amongst pro athletes, he is completely outmatched by the best in the world. running alongside the best able-bodied runners is out of his league. --- and that "blind" archer you listed IS NOT blind. he only has vision in one eye which is completely different than being totally blind.

And it doesn't change the fact that amongst pro athletes, some other less fast able bodied athletes from small countries are completely outmatched by the best in the world.
Running alongside the best is out of their league.

That's where you miss the point. Having two legs or none doesn't change the fact that some athletes have no chances to win a medal.
That simply happens in all disciplines.
For this reason Pistorius has the right to compete in the Olympics as long as his times qualify him to do so.
Him and everyone else with a disability.

Imagine Bolt loses one hand next year... Should he compete in the Olympics or in the Paralympics?

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That archer is legally blind: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Im_Dong-Hyun
He has 20/200 vision in his left eye and 20/100 vision in his right eye, meaning he is legally blind in his left eye and needs to be 10 times closer to see objects clearly, with that eye, compared to someone with perfect vision.

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Here's another fine example of a disabled athlete in London: http://www.businessinsider.com/natalia-par...e-tennis-2012-8

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Btw I agree with Robinski about the rest. Sorry about the "despise" accusation. My bad.

[Ryan]

So FIFA announced today it's reserving it's disciplinary action against the Canadian players and coach for after tomorrow's bronze medal game. Nothing has been confirmed by FIFA or the IOC, nor will it likely be, but sources are saying Christiana Pedersen, the Norwegian referee at the centre of all the controversy has been unassigned from the gold medal game and sent home because of her questionable officiating.

[fgcarva1]

QUOTE (Ryan @ Wednesday, Aug 8 2012, 16:31)

Christiana Pedersen, the Norwegian referee at the centre of all the controversy has been unassigned from the gold medal game and sent home because of her questionable officiating.

They just did that to stop people from bitching. There was nothing "questionable" there. She made two terrible mistakes, but there was no "fix^. She made one bad call which was the indirect-free kick due to delay of game. The handball was a bad calla s well but refs make mistakes on those all the time. It depends on their POV.

Here's how this is gonna end,

FIFA threatens to, but drops disciplinary actions or issues a warning...
Referee continues to officiate International matches.
Within a week people forget about it.

[Jimmy_Leppard]

Does anyone know when's the men relay on 4x100 meters ? I'd like to see Bolt and the company blow down another record

[4 Bagger]

QUOTE (Robinski @ Wednesday, Aug 8 2012, 17:09)

I think he was offered another jump but didn't take it. Probably pretty shook up by that.

Aah fair enough. It's understandable I guess.

[johnny_zoo]

QUOTE (Jimmy_Leppard @ Wednesday, Aug 8 2012, 20:19)

Does anyone know when's the men relay on 4x100 meters ? I'd like to see Bolt and the company blow down another record

Round 1 - Fri 10th Aug 19:45 BST

Final - Sat 11 Aug - 21:00 BST


Are you a BOLT fanatic then?

[El_Diablo]

QUOTE (Pansy. @ Wednesday, Aug 8 2012, 05:12)

People only pull that card when they're getting they're getting buttf*cked by everyone else.

lol... it's not a "card" to pull. it's just a fact.
I'm entitled to my opinion. I don't care if it's the minority

QUOTE

Drawing lines between gender and disabilities is ridiculous - women, on the most part, can't compete with men in athletic sports which is generally why they're separated, plus it's the most natural and even physical boundary to see. Whilst clearly we can see a disabled athlete competing with some of the best able bodied athletes in the world - not us normal people (that point is stupid).

you're missing the point just like Doc.

it's not about able or disabled or gender. I only used those words to define to the 2 sides.
it's about prosthetic's.

so I'll say it again: if you start letting athletes with prosthetics compete in any event then one day you're going to have to decide whether or not it's an unfair advantage to have carbon-fiber limbs when everyone else has flesh and blood limbs. these are real issues that you're not thinking about.

carbon fiber body parts don't require oxygen or blood expenditure by the body to "fuel" them.
as the technology advances it will clearly become an unfair advantage to have mechanical limbs and this is a problem.

QUOTE

And there again, that point is so f*cking stupid - clearly it is fair, he got to the semi's, beating some top class athletes for f*cks sake. And balanced? I don't even know what the f*ck that's supposed to mean to be quite honest.

wow that's a lof of F-words.
you need to calm down.

you're totally missing the point.

QUOTE

If it gets to that point where it gives them an advantage - yes, they shouldn't be allowed to compete.

and there it is.

now you agree with me

[Miamivicecity]

Never mind. Didn't see the pic above.

[Jimmy_Leppard]

QUOTE (johnny_zoo @ Wednesday, Aug 8 2012, 21:39)

QUOTE (Jimmy_Leppard @ Wednesday, Aug 8 2012, 20:19) Does anyone know when's the men relay on 4x100 meters ? I'd like to see Bolt and the company blow down another record Round 1 - Fri 10th Aug 19:45 BST Final - Sat 11 Aug - 21:00 BST Are you a BOLT fanatic then?

Thanks a lot, man

Yeah, you could say that. The guy's a beast and I like to see records being broken.

[NateShaw92]

QUOTE (fgcarva1 @ Wednesday, Aug 8 2012, 20:38)

QUOTE (Ryan @ Wednesday, Aug 8 2012, 16:31) Christiana Pedersen, the Norwegian referee at the centre of all the controversy has been unassigned from the gold medal game and sent home because of her questionable officiating. They just did that to stop people from bitching. There was nothing "questionable" there. She made two terrible mistakes, but there was no "fix^. She made one bad call which was the indirect-free kick due to delay of game. The handball was a bad calla s well but refs make mistakes on those all the time. It depends on their POV. Here's how this is gonna end, FIFA threatens to, but drops disciplinary actions or issues a warning... Referee continues to officiate International matches. Within a week people forget about it.

exactly, no fix, just bad decisions, this is common in footie, but some people who do not know the sport well can mistake these for a fix, I have seent eh ball hit the back of the net and the ref did not give it as he throught it was wide - the ball bounced up off the top corner and out the net and the ref thought he had just hit it slightly wide.

Refs do not get fired or even properly disciplined, no matter what decisions they make, worst case for a ref is you get a few weeks demotion (not suspension DEMOTION) officiating a lower league or lower standard games. Refs can do what they want they players, managers, fans etc, essentially have no rights and may make no demands.
I'll admit it is a real bitch but it won't change

This post has been edited by NateShaw92 on Thursday, Aug 9 2012, 07:02

[Ryan]

We may have only won bronze, but it sure feels like gold after all the women's team has been through.

[JamesB__]

Horse dancing gold and bronze as well as a women's boxing gold for GB today!

[darthYENIK]

Despite my previous statements about not watching, specifically soccer, I will be watching the women's gold medal game.

And I did watch the womens beach volleyball gold medal game.

[AndyGanteks]

Triple double for Jamaica on 200m. Bolt, Blake and Weir.