[GTAvanja]

QUOTE (Xcommunicated @ Wednesday, Jul 18 2012, 21:01)

I'm just amazed to see this is in the UK and not in the US.  Don't think for a second that you've won, UK.  Our delusional religious fanatics beat the f*ck out of your delusional religious fanatics!

Cut them some slack, at least they're trying.

This is seriously f*cked up. But people who want their kids to receive the vaccine don't have to get it in schools, right? They can just go to the hospital to get it.

[Mockage]

I thought folks down in the Bible belt were bad.

[lil weasel]

Give them time, their working on it.

Beside our religious schools don't have medical powers for the most part. it will be the Religious Run Hospitals that screw up treatments, All in the Name of God, the final decider.

This post has been edited by lil weasel on Wednesday, Jul 18 2012, 21:35

[Adept]

QUOTE (GTA_stu @ Wednesday, Jul 18 2012, 20:51)

QUOTE (lol232 @ Wednesday, Jul 18 2012, 20:26) Well... I am 60% Religious, 40% Atheist... But now... Now, WHAT THE F*CK? Seriously? Block cure cancer? What? The want students to die? Are you f*cking kidding me? Now since they are that dumb, I will explain it in a Religious way. "God would like the kids to die in horrible painful death. Yeah definitely. They are the sinners if they let the kids die, thus, they are going to hell." This is by FAR the Dumbest thing I've ever heard. No, seriously, I can't believe this. Faith in Humanity lost. It's not a cure, it's just a vaccine against the HPV virus which is a major cause of cervical cancer as well as a couple of other cancers which primarily affect women. It doesn't make people immune to the virus but it does critically reduce your chance of contracting the HPV virus which is a major cause of cervical cancer. It's a primarily sexually transmitted disease, which is why the religious schools are against it just like they're against condoms and other forms of birth control, because they're against sex before marriage. like I said the girls would still be able to go to their GP if they wished and receive it there. Most of the pupils that attend these schools probably wouldn't want the jab anyways, because they too will be religious and it would be against their ethics and whatnot. So really it's nothing to get into outrage about. It's their choice, it doesn't affect anybody else and they're not trying to ban it nationwide, plus every girl will still have acess to the jab, just not on school grounds.

I agree with Stu. Religious schools are like this. If you don't like it then don't send your kids to one. I attended a religious high school and it was uptight and at times ridiculous. I should have gone to public school but it wasn't happenin. The parents should be given information about the vaccine and to decide whether or not to take their kid to the doctor to get one. Thats just my opinion.

[nightwalker83]

QUOTE (S5L3T0 @ Thursday, Jul 19 2012, 05:21)

Religion IS the cancer of society.

Yeah! Maybe they think if the boys get the injection then the girl will become protected through natural courses? Stupid I know.

[trip]

QUOTE (Xcommunicated @ Wednesday, Jul 18 2012, 15:01)

I'm just amazed to see this is in the UK and not in the US. Don't think for a second that you've won, UK. Our delusional religious fanatics beat the f*ck out of your delusional religious fanatics!

It already happened here. The very same issue. I actually was shocked to see this thread was about the UK.

I'm in the bathroom on my tablet or I would dig up the reference - it was only a handful of months ago that it was in the news.

[Iminicus]

QUOTE (trip @ Wednesday, Jul 18 2012, 15:52)

QUOTE (Xcommunicated @ Wednesday, Jul 18 2012, 15:01) I'm just amazed to see this is in the UK and not in the US.  Don't think for a second that you've won, UK.  Our delusional religious fanatics beat the f*ck out of your delusional religious fanatics! It already happened here. The very same issue. I actually was shocked to see this thread was about the UK. I'm in the bathroom on my tablet or I would dig up the reference - it was only a handful of months ago that it was in the news.

It happened in New Zealand too. The NZ Catholic Society and the NZ Islamic Society ( Not real names ) both objected to the Ministry of Health on the grounds of infringing on religious freedom.

As such, the NZ Government said that schools can tell students about the vaccine but they can't administer them to girls and that it is ultimately up to the parents ( I KNOW f*ckING CRAZY) of the girls.

Honestly, this type of sh*t just screams Government intervention. Yeah, for the potential benefit of society but I do believe that the vaccine can in a small percentage of women increase the chance of cancer ( don't quote me on that ). I'm all for awareness campaigns for diseases and the such, but it is ultimately the parents responsibility to look after the welfare of their child. It isn't the Government's, the Churh's or the school's.

This post has been edited by Iminicus on Thursday, Jul 19 2012, 00:22

[Adept]

QUOTE (Iminicus @ Thursday, Jul 19 2012, 00:19)

As such, the NZ Government said that schools can tell students about the vaccine but they can't administer them to girls and that it is ultimately up to the parents ( I KNOW f*ckING CRAZY) of the girls.

I don't get it. Why is that crazy?

[MIKON8ERISBACK]

Theres no such thing as a "cancer vaccine". It's all a marketing ploy to get the government to use taxpayer dollars to pay the pharmaceutical company's bills for them.

There is NO scientific evidence that vaccines have ever prevented any deaths from the bugs they claim to protect against, and they certainly do not control or slow down the spread of the flu or anything, let alone Cancer; a disease almost entirely unrelated to the flu (besides the infamous HPV).

If the paranoid parents choose to do so, they can arrange doctors appointments or take their kids to public vaccination centers where they will be jabbed with used needles picked up of the street.

This post has been edited by MIKON8ERISBACK on Saturday, Jul 21 2012, 16:51

[El Zilcho]

QUOTE (MIKON8ERISBACK @ Friday, Jul 20 2012, 23:55)

Theres no such thing as a "cancer vaccine". It's all a marketing ploy to get the government to use taxpayer dollars to pay the pharmaceutical company's bills for them. There is NO scientific evidence that vaccines have ever prevented any deaths from the bugs they claim to protect against, and they certainly do not control or slow down the spread of the flu or anything. If the paranoid parents choose to do so, they can arrange doctors appointments or take their kids to public vaccination centers where they will be jabbed with used needles picked up of the street.

You're deluded. The vaccine mentioned prevents a virus which hugely increases the chances of cervical cancer. Do the research and stop spouting idiotic conspiracy bullsh*t. This has nothing to do with pharmaceutical giants or corporate manipulation. It would be beneficial if you realised this and stopped embarrassing yourself sooner rather than later.

[ToniForelli]

Religion has been a troll for decades!

[bluesboyjr]

QUOTE (MIKON8ERISBACK @ Friday, Jul 20 2012, 23:55)

There is NO scientific evidence that vaccines have ever prevented any deaths from the bugs they claim to protect against,

I guess smallpox was eradicated by wizards, then.

[trip]

QUOTE (bluesboyjr @ Friday, Jul 20 2012, 19:09)

QUOTE (MIKON8ERISBACK @ Friday, Jul 20 2012, 23:55) There is NO scientific evidence that vaccines have ever prevented any deaths from the bugs they claim to protect against, I guess smallpox was eradicated by wizards, then.

Toss a little polio in there too.

MIKON8ERISBACK can you provide a study to back your statement? I like to read.

[Los Santos Pedestrian]

In the United States, schools are being bashed for teaching science.

In the United Kingdom, schools are being bashed for utilizing science.

It's pretty much the same.

[AceRay]

QUOTE (Adept @ Thursday, Jul 19 2012, 13:22)

QUOTE (Iminicus @ Thursday, Jul 19 2012, 00:19) As such, the NZ Government said that schools can tell students about the vaccine but they can't administer them to girls and that it is ultimately up to the parents ( I KNOW f*ckING CRAZY) of the girls. I don't get it. Why is that crazy?

Yeah, if they're underage then it would make sense for the school to check with the parents first. Not really crazy.

[dingleman]

QUOTE (DeeperRed @ Thursday, Jul 19 2012, 06:28)

QUOTE (lol232 @ Wednesday, Jul 18 2012, 20:26) Well... I am 60% Religious, 40% Atheist... Huh ? How does that work ? are you agnostic ?

He believes there is a God, but he is missing 40% of his limbs.

Anyway, I think these schools would feel hypocritical to help eliminate cancer, as their faith is also something that is communicable, and kills a LOT of people. (Cookies for those who guess the show I referenced there).

[Captain VXR]

QUOTE (Adept @ Thursday, Jul 19 2012, 00:22)

QUOTE (Iminicus @ Thursday, Jul 19 2012, 00:19) As such, the NZ Government said that schools can tell students about the vaccine but they can't administer them to girls and that it is ultimately up to the parents ( I KNOW f*ckING CRAZY) of the girls. I don't get it. Why is that crazy?

Because they may contract the illness from a cheating spouse or through rape etc etc.

Why the hell should parents be allowed to put teenage girls at risk of easily prevented diseases?

[MIKON8ERISBACK]

QUOTE (El Zilcho @ Friday, Jul 20 2012, 17:58)

QUOTE (MIKON8ERISBACK @ Friday, Jul 20 2012, 23:55) Theres no such thing as a "cancer vaccine". It's all a marketing ploy to get the government to use taxpayer dollars to pay the pharmaceutical company's bills for them. There is NO scientific evidence that vaccines have ever prevented any deaths from the bugs they claim to protect against, and they certainly do not control or slow down the spread of the flu or anything. If the paranoid parents choose to do so, they can arrange doctors appointments or take their kids to public vaccination centers where they will be jabbed with used needles picked up of the street.  You're deluded. The vaccine mentioned prevents a virus which hugely increases the chances of cervical cancer. Do the research and stop spouting idiotic conspiracy bullsh*t. This has nothing to do with pharmaceutical giants or corporate manipulation. It would be beneficial if you realised this and stopped embarrassing yourself sooner rather than later.

My opinion is that parental rights need to taken into account. If the parents choose to go for the vaccination, then they can visit their family doctor.

[MIKON8ERISBACK]

QUOTE (trip @ Friday, Jul 20 2012, 18:14)

QUOTE (bluesboyjr @ Friday, Jul 20 2012, 19:09) QUOTE (MIKON8ERISBACK @ Friday, Jul 20 2012, 23:55) There is NO scientific evidence that vaccines have ever prevented any deaths from the bugs they claim to protect against, I guess smallpox was eradicated by wizards, then. Toss a little polio in there too. MIKON8ERISBACK can you provide a study to back your statement? I like to read.

http://www.drbriffa.com/2012/03/30/does-fl...apparently-not/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-U9YRpL348

http://www.healthsentinel.com/joomla/index...ginal&Itemid=24

I would suggest ignoring all articles from the CDC, the WHO, UNICEF, the UN, and all their counterparts. Their statistics are as slanted as a power pole after a severe windstorm.

[El Zilcho]

Hard facts and figures support the decrease of cervical cancer in accordance with the vaccination; it reduces the number of peopling suffering from the virus, which is the number one cause for the cancer. This is not a conspiracy, nor is it engineered by the UN or other supposedly 'bogeyman' entities.