[AceRay]

QUOTE (El_Diablo @ Thursday, Jul 12 2012, 19:25)

QUOTE (AceRay @ Wednesday, Jul 11 2012, 22:42) -snip- wow... you are taking this sh*t way too seriously

That's only, like, a tenth of the things I hate about Mafia 2. I could write novels about the things Mafia 2 did wrong. Its like The Phantom Menace of gaming.

I do think that the devs TRIED to make it a good homage to mafia movies and, in a lot of ways, this was close to being a good game. The gunfighting is good, the city is gorgeous (especially in the snow) and the driving is passable. Robbing shops was pretty fun too and there's these couple of little things that could have worked in different circumstances. But at the same time, its a million miles away from a good game because of, and lets be reasonable about this, EVERYTHING ELSE. I've never seen a game come so close to being amazing yet missing so hard. Its one of gaming's most tragic moments.

[Xcommunicated]

QUOTE (The Killa @ Wednesday, Jul 11 2012, 23:58)

QUOTE (Chunkyman @ Wednesday, Jul 11 2012, 21:28) GTA IV had a good story, but the gameplay was terrible. It was. As I said, I genuinely think Rockstar has been declining for many years now. Their incredibly idiotic emphasis on realism (which is inconsistent and therefore unnecessary in itself) has put a serious detriment on the games enjoyment. Take Max Payne 3, he can only carry 3 weapons yet he can slow down time and pop painkillers like it's candy with no consequences except a few seconds of color distortion. There are some extremely questionable game mechanic and design choices being made and I seriously don't think it will get magically better with GTA V, yet it will still be raved about and reviewers will give out 10's and perfect scores easier than prostitutes give out on a daily basis. It's like they forgot what "fun" is supposed to be.

Man, I feel the same way. One of my biggest gripes about IV was that they took away ALL of the opportunities to expand your character's skills and attributes. I really enjoyed maxing out the character's health, stamina, etc. in the previous GTAs. It gave this nice feeling of building the character into a f*cking beast. To expand on these attributes so greatly in SA only to eliminate them in IV was a ridiculously crass move. I'm sure some sarcastic Sandy Vag will come along asn say, "yeah as if ambulance missions, taxi missions, fire missions, etc were actually fun," to which I would simply reply don't f*cking do them then. Besides, there's plenty of room for improving side missions for expanding the character's attributes.

I've pretty much said all I care to say about the travesty that is Max Payne 3. But I will say I agree that the realism is ridiculous and inconsistent. Forcing you to carry only 3 guns leaves little to no choice on how to approach each group of enemies and starves the life out of the gameplay and replay value alike. It's just the same sh*t over and over. As stupid as the ending was, I was actually glad to be firing an rpg out of the sunroof of a car speeding down a runway for a single change of pace.

But I do have this gut feeling that they've come to their senses with V.


In other news, Mafia 2 was awesome, but not the masterpiece that the first one was. The tongue-in-cheek satirical use of racial stereotypes and sexism to portray the era had me snickering throughout the game. Good stuff.


But for a truly unpopular opinion, one of my favorite games and one of the few games that I felt successfully intertwined cinema with gameplay was The Getaway. It had fairly realistic car handling, a large chunk of London recreated, a large volume of traffic on screen (especially for a PS2 game), an engaging story and an excellent soundtrack. I was disappointed when the 3rd one was canned as I probably would have bought a PS3 just to play it.

[Benjimino234]

CoD isn't all that bad - sure there's flaws but everyone likes to bitch.
People need to play more fighting games - they're probably the most intelligent type of game. It makes you study and understand how the game mechanics work and is more immersive than shooters and rpg's.
I don't really like RTS's.

[AlfieWilRus]

Mario series were boring as f*ck.

Zelda was boring.

All N64 games were sh*t.

I can go on and on.

[AceRay]

QUOTE (Xcommunicated @ Thursday, Jul 12 2012, 20:43)

But for a truly unpopular opinion, one of my favorite games and one of the few games that I felt successfully intertwined cinema with gameplay was The Getaway. It had fairly realistic car handling, a large chunk of London recreated, a large volume of traffic on screen (especially for a PS2 game), an engaging story and an excellent soundtrack. I was disappointed when the 3rd one was canned as I probably would have bought a PS3 just to play it.

Nah, that ain't unpopular cause I've heard heaps of people say that was their favourite games. I have to say its probably one of the PS2's finest games and worth a look.

QUOTE

Mario series were boring as f*ck. Zelda was boring. All N64 games were sh*t.

Yeah, lets judge an entire library of games by a couple of bad eggs! That isn't generalization at all!

[nightwalker83]

I hate the need for the best graphics! Take for example Max Payne 3 35GB and my download limit is only around 20GB/Month.

[Piperka]

I always thought Sports games (such as Fifa) we're boring and pointless. Games are made so you can have fun doing things you generally can't do in real life (without consequences). I always found Fifa to be for people who are fat/lazy to play soccer in real life. However, people disagree.

[El_Diablo]

QUOTE (Piperka @ Thursday, Jul 12 2012, 01:26)

I always found Fifa to be for people who are fat/lazy to play soccer in real life. However, people disagree.

yeah I would have to disagree lol...

the only people I know who play FIFA are guys who also play soccer.
they are anything but fat and lazy.

[Jay]

My friends who play soccer tend to really pay attention to the AI when playing games like FIFA because they've told me it translates really good into their own game.

Especially when 4 people are playing, when you have possession your partner sees where the other players are to receive a pass and come the weekend they know where to be running to when it happens in real life.

[Tycek]

-GTA SA got old very fast and now it's nothing more than very mediocre game, which sold in many copies only because of the title.
-Fallout series contains three games (F1, F2, F:NV)
-Mafia II was overhyped piece of sh*t and it sold only because of the title and hype made by developers
-Forza Motorsport is far better than overhyped GT
-Uncharted isn't anything great(especially after II), but Tomb Rider in new clothes with guy as protagonist. I would prefer ND to make another Jak game.

[GTASAIDEAMASTER]

WoW is one of the most overrated games I have ever seen and I do not find it fun at all.
GTA III and GTA Vice City were when Rockstar hit the peak of quality.
SA-MP is overrated and MTA is much better.
Claude Speed is one of the best protagonists ever because he doesn't talk and it makes it easier to immerse yourself into him.
GTA3 and Vice City had the best vehicles in all of the GTA Series,and each one was original and different from the others.After Vice City the cars started to be boring repetitive pieces of crap.
I do not see a problem on IV's bike driving and I can control it just fine.
Both Vice City and III were better than IV,but SA wasn't.
SA is awfully overrated.
Bully and the Warriors are one of the most underrated games by Rockstar despite being their best games outside the GTA Franchise.
Midnight Club is very underrated despite having awesome driving and customization.
Rockstar is starting to look more and more like EA while time passes.

[PrometheusX]

QUOTE (El_Diablo @ Thursday, Jul 12 2012, 04:01)

Mafia 2 IS a great game. I think most people were just pissed because it was too short and didn't have Free Ride mode.

This.

Admired everything about the game, specially the soundtrack.

[something_else]

• Not only is GTA IV obscenely overrated, it's boring, has numerous rudimentary flaws and controls terribly because of RAGE.
• Tied to the above, Saints Row is better than IV in more ways than IV is better than SR.
• Red Dead Redemption, while a very good game, is extremely overrated, and also suffers badly because of RAGE.
• Multiplayer, in its current state, is a bigger threat to gaming than anything else.
• Point and click games are better than first person shooters.
• Casual games are the future.
• Most "hardcore gamers" these days have no idea what a difficult game is.

[ajbns87]

GTA IV multiplayer is the most fun online multiplayer experience.

[baptiste]

This thread is so f*cking retarded.

[Cosmic Gypsy]

GTA IV is boring, because there is nothing to do, apart from drive around, assault and kill people... Literally, not ONE other criminal activity is available for you to take part in. For a game based on crime, called GTA... That is ridiculously pathetic. They should seriously loose their idiotic focus on things like bowling, and focus on a better melee combat system, focus on the ability to mug people, rob houses / shops and focus on an in depth drug dealing system i can use when ever i want (TBOGT has mission based drug deals, unrealistic and limited, they ended after a while also.) And bring back things like import / export, taxi / police / ambulance / fire truck missions.

People who say that kind of activity doesn't fit certain GTA protagonists? Get real you idiots, GTA protags go round stealing cars and murdering people for no reason. Muggings and robberies clearly suit them a whole lot more than bowling / darts etc. I'm not saying get rid of things like bowling etc, but they need to concentrate logically on CRIMINAL ACTIVITIES. As this is a game called Grand Theft Auto, based on crime.

/Rant over.

This post has been edited by Cosmic Gypsy on Thursday, Jul 12 2012, 13:11

[nlitement]

The Halo series, whilst highly polished and with a great community-oriented developer, in the end delivers a lukewarm, generic FPS experience. Its storyline and mythos is not nearly as mature as that of other sci-fi FPSs like Half-Life, and the silliness of the characters (including the motocross helmet sporting protagonist who's only referred to by his rank, without the "petty officer" part), make it hard to convince me that the series' story was developed with anybody but the 15-and-under demographic in mind.

[theomenofficial]

QUOTE (The Killa @ Thursday, Jul 12 2012, 00:17)

Max Payne 3 was an awful excuse for a Max Payne game, and I am genuinely worried that GTA V will be just as bad. I think Rockstar have been steadily declining in game quality since Vice City.

Finally,someone who agrees with me!

[Miamivicecity]

QUOTE (Cosmic Gypsy @ Friday, Jul 13 2012, 00:01)

GTA IV is boring, because there is nothing to do, apart from drive around, assault and kill people... Literally, not ONE other criminal activity is available for you to take part in. For a game based on crime, called GTA... That is ridiculously pathetic. They should seriously loose their idiotic focus on things like bowling, and focus on a better melee combat system, focus on the ability to mug people, rob houses / shops and focus on an in depth drug dealing system i can use when ever i want (TBOGT has mission based drug deals, unrealistic and limited, they ended after a while also.) And bring back things like import / export, taxi / police / ambulance / fire truck missions. People who say that kind of activity doesn't fit certain GTA protagonists? Get real you idiots, GTA protags go round stealing cars and murdering people for no reason. Muggings and robberies clearly suit them a whole lot more than bowling / darts etc. I'm not saying get rid of things like bowling etc, but they need to concentrate logically on CRIMINAL ACTIVITIES. As this is a game called Grand Theft Auto, based on crime. /Rant over.

Oh there's so much ignorance in this post I can't resist commenting. Not a single criminal based activity huh? I guess drug runs for LJ, import/exports for Brucie, assassinations for The Fixer, Stevie's cars, vigilante and most wanted missions are all imaginative aren't they? Don't give me the "but they're limited" excuse either.

As for bowling and whatnot mind explaining how driving an ambulance or firetruck fits into the criminal world more? Hey who knows maybe some criminals might like bowling or play some pool, darts etc. I'm sure criminals have passtimes too however I can't picture a criminal driving a ambulance or firetruck.

Quite frankly your post is hypocritical. It's alright to include menial everyday jobs which have nothing to do with crime, but bowling, darts etc don't fit in the world of GTA? I agree with things like muggings and robberies, but to say GTA IV rids of any criminal based activity and focuses on things like bowling is a lie probably based on blind dislike for the game.

Xcommunicated. SA is the only GTA to have attributes so I'm not sure why you've worded like GTA IV is the only one not to include it. Personally I found it unnecessary.

This post has been edited by Miamivicecity on Thursday, Jul 12 2012, 14:39

[Cosmic Gypsy]

QUOTE (Miamivicecity @ Thursday, Jul 12 2012, 14:13)

QUOTE (Cosmic Gypsy @ Friday, Jul 13 2012, 00:01) GTA IV is boring, because there is nothing to do, apart from drive around, assault and kill people... Literally, not ONE other criminal activity is available for you to take part in. For a game based on crime, called GTA... That is ridiculously pathetic. They should seriously loose their idiotic focus on things like bowling, and focus on a better melee combat system, focus on the ability to mug people, rob houses / shops and focus on an in depth drug dealing system i can use when ever i want (TBOGT has mission based drug deals, unrealistic and limited, they ended after a while also.) And bring back things like import / export, taxi / police / ambulance / fire truck missions. People who say that kind of activity doesn't fit certain GTA protagonists? Get real you idiots, GTA protags go round stealing cars and murdering people for no reason. Muggings and robberies clearly suit them a whole lot more than bowling / darts etc. I'm not saying get rid of things like bowling etc, but they need to concentrate logically on CRIMINAL ACTIVITIES. As this is a game called Grand Theft Auto, based on crime. /Rant over. Oh there's so much ignorance in this post I can't resist commenting. Not a single criminal based activity huh? I guess drug runs for LJ, import/exports for Brucie, assassinations for The Fixer, Stevie's cars, vigilante and most wanted missions are all imaginative aren't they? As for bowling and whatnot mind explaining how driving an ambulance or firetruck fits into the criminal world more? Hey who knows maybe some criminals might like bowling or play some pool, darts etc .I'm sure criminals have passtimes too however I can't picture a criminal driving a ambulance or firetruck. Quite frankly your post is hypocritical. It's alright to include menial everyday jobs which have nothing to do with crime, but bowling, darts etc don't fit in the world of GTA? Xcommunicated. SA is the only GTA to have attributes so I'm not sure why you've worded like GTA IV is the only one not to include it. Personally I found it unnecessary. GTA isn't an RPG. I hated building up skills to get the most out of shooting, driving, flying etc.

Ok wow, the drug runs you mentioned are mission based, they disappear after completion.

Assassinations are mission based, and is just murder. Not really anything new in terms of criminal activity there. You could just call them another mission. Plus they disappear after completion.

Import / Export with Brucie? I must have forgot about that.

Vigilante missions are cool on IV. However the lack of any other mission of that type is just inexcusable. (Ambulance, Fire truck, Taxi (Which is only on IV and disappear after completion) the list goes on.) EDIT : Oh yeah, just remembered vigilante missions were taken away for TLAD and TBOGT

I never said the side vehicle missions were criminal based i just said they should make a return.

Of course criminals have pass times and hobbies, but this is a game based on crime, if i wanted to go bowling i could do so quite easily in real life, however, i'm not exactly gonna go rob someone's house am i. Criminal activities are so ridiculously limited on IV its unbelievable, the fact they choose bowling and sh*t over actual crimes proves their priorities are not in the right place. Criminals of noticeable calibre mug people / rob houses / rob stores a whole lot more then they go bowling.

And if you read my post properly you would have realized i don't want to get rid of bowling / darts / snooker, i just want them to add actual activity that could be considered criminal.

This post has been edited by Cosmic Gypsy on Thursday, Jul 12 2012, 14:46