[MosquitoSmasher]

I recently played GTA IV and i was kinda shocked by well...ugly it can look. Well, ugly is a big word but compared to RDR, it's a big difference. Especially during the daytime it can look so smudged out, shadows from trees and just the graphics in general. Then came RDR and oh my what a difference, so much more crisp and clear looking, to this day one amazing looking game. But i guess we gotta take into account that RDR's world is alot more empty with only a few cities and not even that big. While GTA IV's world was crammed with buildings and all that. So can we actually expect graphics like those seen in the V trailer or is that simply not possible, in your opinion?

[r0eladn]

Some people live in the past. I live in the future.

It is sick if you imagine what technology and thus graphics there will be in say a hundred years from now.
So sick that V looks like a pile or horsepoo. And thus it wont satisfy me.

[cp1dell]

It's safe to say Rockstar knows how to better optimize things on the RAGE engine and knows how to develop on the consoles; kind of like how Naughty Dog knows how to fully use the PS3's potential.

[Degrees]

I thought RDR would look better just because it was released like what 2 years later right?

[Johnny Playert]

It's definitely possible, we're 4 years further. And don't forget, trailers always look better, even if it's not pre-rendered on a high-end PC. Just watch GTA IV's first trailer, you'll spot differences. And, actually, do you really feel GTA V's graphics looked THAT much better??? I didn't, it wasn't groundbreaking imo.

[Degrees]

QUOTE (Johnny Playert @ Monday, Jul 9 2012, 21:44)

It's definitely possible, we're 4 years further. And don't forget, trailers always look better, even if it's not pre-rendered on a high-end PC. Just watch GTA IV's first trailer, you'll spot differences. And, actually, do you really feel GTA V's graphics looked THAT much better??? I didn't, it wasn't groundbreaking imo.

Same I wasn't blown away with the graphics more the content.

[mikkenugent]

The graphics looked sharper like RDR IMHO but that's just me.

[MosquitoSmasher]

QUOTE (Degrees @ Monday, Jul 9 2012, 21:44)

I thought RDR would look better just because it was released like what 2 years later right?

True true, but still....the world was much more empty, and thus the graphics could look that much better. A real comparison can be done when we finally have V in our consoles.

[UltraMaximum]

QUOTE (Johnny Playert @ Monday, Jul 9 2012, 21:44)

It's definitely possible, we're 4 years further. And don't forget, trailers always look better, even if it's not pre-rendered on a high-end PC. Just watch GTA IV's first trailer, you'll spot differences. And, actually, do you really feel GTA V's graphics looked THAT much better??? I didn't, it wasn't groundbreaking imo.

I think the graphics on the final GTA V that will ship out are going to be a lot better than that first trailer.

It will have been over a year at least since the first trailer and release, allowing for plenty of time to make things look great. Not to mention the large amount of games coming out now with amazing graphics, Rockstar will have to compete with them.

[css_matt]

Smooth framerate is often a bigger issue

[MosquitoSmasher]

QUOTE (mikkenugent @ Monday, Jul 9 2012, 21:49)

The graphics looked sharper like RDR IMHO but that's just me.

This exactly. It was much sharper. Check out GTA IV now and you will see how less-sharp it all looks compared to the V trailer.


And yeah...the framerate really wasn't too good in IV, and it was already ALOT better in RDR, much much better. So i think we can expect a much improved framerate too.

[WhatThe?]

I can see a FanBoy War happening...

[GTA_La_Costra_Nostra]

I'm going to use an image that was just posted in another thread:



Does that really look like it is next-gen worthy? You can see that boxes and the lamp post looks pixilated, and the walkway pavement is smudged.

[MosquitoSmasher]

I never said anything about next gen though, just that the consoles maybe can't handle what we saw in the V trailer. Don't forget how big this game is going to be , how full of crazy little details it will be.

[Johnny Playert]

QUOTE (MosquitoSmasher @ Monday, Jul 9 2012, 21:56)

QUOTE (mikkenugent @ Monday, Jul 9 2012, 21:49) The graphics looked sharper like RDR IMHO but that's just me. This exactly. It was much sharper. Check out GTA IV now and you will see how less-sharp it all looks compared to the V trailer. And yeah...the framerate really wasn't too good in IV, and it was already ALOT better in RDR, much much better. So i think we can expect a much improved framerate too.

Yes, but i'm telling you, go watch IV's first trailer, please do. That looks WAY sharper than the game itself.

But this is nothing new bro, it's a trailer!
I recently bought RDR and right before i got it i watched the trailers a lot. Then when i started playing i immediately saw the huge difference. Exactly the same with Max Payne 3, i was shocked @ how much better/smoother the trailer looked, even though it said 'Entirely made from in-game footage'. But it happens all the time!

This post has been edited by Johnny Playert on Monday, Jul 9 2012, 22:14

[Gtaghost22]

GTA V trailer is already confirmed to be running in 720p, which means it's the console version

[73duster]

I'm not worried. Every Rockstar title has gotten progressively better with the graphics. RDR was 2 years later, and it showed. Will GTAV blow everyone away? Probably not, but it looks great nonetheless. RDR was very impressive as it was, so if GTAV is just slightly better, i'll be thrilled.

[Johnny Playert]

QUOTE (73duster @ Monday, Jul 9 2012, 22:19)

I'm not worried. Every Rockstar title has gotten progressively better with the graphics. RDR was 2 years later, and it showed. Will GTAV blow everyone away? Probably not, but it looks great nonetheless. RDR was very impressive as it was, so if GTAV is just slightly better, i'll be thrilled.

That's just natural progression.

Of course we can expect it to be slightly better, even though GTA is much bigger. Those facial expressions in RDR where, non-existent, really if you ask me.

[Gtaghost22]

QUOTE (Johnny Playert @ Monday, Jul 9 2012, 22:07)

QUOTE (MosquitoSmasher @ Monday, Jul 9 2012, 21:56) QUOTE (mikkenugent @ Monday, Jul 9 2012, 21:49) The graphics looked sharper like RDR IMHO but that's just me. This exactly. It was much sharper. Check out GTA IV now and you will see how less-sharp it all looks compared to the V trailer. And yeah...the framerate really wasn't too good in IV, and it was already ALOT better in RDR, much much better. So i think we can expect a much improved framerate too. Yes, but i'm telling you, go watch IV's first trailer, please do. That looks WAY sharper than the game itself. But this is nothing new bro, it's a trailer! I recently bought RDR and right before i got it i watched the trailers a lot. Then when i started playing i immediately saw the huge difference. Exactly the same with Max Payne 3, i was shocked @ how much better/smoother the trailer looked, even though it said 'Entirely made from in-game footage'. But it happens all the time!

What are you talking about? All R* trailers are entirely made from in-game gameplay graphics, and the final game always looks better, are you honestly trying to tell me that GTA IV looked worse than it's debut trailer? Hahahaha, that trailer looked like total sh*t mate (i just watched it now) the final build looked way way way better

[HeNDo6750]

In graphics terms, the GTA V trailer looks like an improvement over GTA IV graphics. But the more i look at the trailer (not so much these days), the more it looks very similar to GTA IV. But i will still buy GTA V