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 How would YOU build a criminal empire?

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GTA-King  
Posted: Friday, Jul 6 2012, 04:40
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Yeah, so I might be a little bored... but this has always got me interested. For some time now, I've been interested with gangsters (not gangstas, big difference), cartels, fronts, laundering, ect. Films like Scarface, The Godfather, Blow, Goodfellas... shows like The Sopranos, Breaking Bad, The Wire... they all have that, that thing. That magic... yep, I just said that. A life without a 9-5 job, basically do what you want. That lure of excess. Power. It all fascinates me. Of course, I know that old saying... crime doesn't pay. The way I see it, we all die anyway, and not all years of your life are going to be golden. But if one was to build a successful criminal empire, who knows? Maybe it will last a long time. I'd rather live it up rather than be a regular Joe throughout life. I work in a factory... so monotonous. Maybe that's why I'm making a topic like this. lol.gif

So how would YOU build your criminal empire? What would your specialty be? How would you build it from the ground up? ect.

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I'd play it safe if I was a criminal, I'd try to appear as normal as possible, like what my dude Gus had going on in Breaking Bad or like Denzel in American Gangster. Have you noticed a trend in these stories and movies? It's always a vagina that brings these guys down, every f*cking time, Breaking Bad, Scarface, Casino, American Gangster, numerous times in the Sopranos the entire operation is compromised by a female so I'd keep them at an arms distance from the criminal operation. I'd also make sure I had a lot of fall guys, dumb people who could take the blame without it reaching to me essentially, I live in Alabama so there's an abundant resource of these kinds of people. My specialty would probably be prescription pills, there's a HUGE market for that down here, it's the number 1 abused drug right now so I'd dip my hands in that.

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They all fall in the end though, this is the general theme song for drug king pins (I know a lot of people aggressively hate rap around here but this actually has a message)



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Posted: Friday, Jul 6 2012, 04:55
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Yeah, it's always the females that tears eveything up, from the inside out. If I was a criminal, I would never emotionally attach myself to anyone (besides my family). I'd just be a womanizer. lol.gif

How would you build your empire from prescription pills though, EscoLehGo? Would you buy them over the counter, then sale them for more than what you paid?
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Posted: Friday, Jul 6 2012, 05:03
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QUOTE (GTA-King @ Friday, Jul 6 2012, 04:55)
Yeah, it's always the females that tears eveything up, from the inside out. If I was a criminal, I would never emotionally attach myself to anyone (besides my family). I'd just be a womanizer. lol.gif

How would you build your empire from prescription pills though, EscoLehGo? Would you buy them over the counter, then sale them for more than what you paid?

Exactly, this might sound crude but a lot of these guys get blinded by pussy and forget the overall objective which is to make as much illegitimate money as possible without getting caught. Once you bring feelings of lust and love into the equation things would get f*cked real fast.

When I was in high school a lot of kids would get all sorts of trippy pills from people's moms who were legit prescribed the drugs believe it or not. So you had soccer moms getting legitimate prescriptions and then selling them to underage kids wanting to have a good time in order to turn a profit. I'd try to find a ring of older, unassuming people who could provide me with these kinds of medications through completely legit prescriptions and then I'd flip them to the people that just wanna get high for a profit. Ex. Buy a bunch of 60 sedatives off a housewife for $100 and flip it on the street for $200 and they'll pay because they need it, they're fiends.
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Well I've never thought about it in large detail, but having researched characters from Boardwalk Empire (as a good number of them were real people), I admire the business stylings of Lucky Luciano and Meyer Lansky. All business, no violence, keep things civilized and rolling,
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@EscoLehGo: Hmmm, interesting. I can see how that could work, especially to younger people. They would come to you, you provide them with the pills, they have a good time... profit!

I think my first en-devour would be selling clean piss to people who takes drugs, and needs a job. I would set up several lemonade stands as fronts. Word will travel that I'm selling clean piss, along with actual lemonade, so someone who needs a job will come to one of my lemonade stands and ask for the "yellow paradise" which is code for clean piss. One of my employees goes to a private location, pisses in the cup, then returns it to the customer. The catch is, "yellow paradise" costs alot more than lemonade. $20. I could make alot of profit especially with today's economy. People are trying to get jobs all the time. The only thing I have to worry about is getting the piss mixed up with the lemonade. lol.gif

I know this sounds really stupid, but it's a start in the criminal life. Maybe after this I will venture into illegal grow operations. Gotta start slow. icon14.gif

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@GTA-King, it kind of sounds ridiculous but it might actually work if you cased the area before hand. The only thing with a clean piss operation though is that you'd have a lot of shady people involved who would easily rat on you because they have nothing to lose except time off of their sentence once they get caught. Maybe you could make an example out of a snitch to discourage compliance with the authorities? Even then it'd be super risky lol
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Hmmm, perhaps I'd have some of my goons hold the snitch while I piss in his mouth? I'd eat asparagus shortly before to get the full effect. Maybe after this he would think twice about snitching and bringing down my clean piss empire!
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I'd move to a new city and start a taxi company. I would spend years building the taxi company from the ground up and sleep under my desk until i bought an apartment nearby.
I would hire puerto rican girl, and then soon start dating her.
I would then get into some debt with russians and albanians.
I would keep getting pestered by some albanians, and go to various underground card games
Soon, my cousin who was in the war would come to the city I was in.
One day I would be doing my regular work, and then some albanians come in and my cousin would kill them
He would keep killing people until he works for various organizations like mafias and street gangs.
I'd get alot of money and buy a new apartment, and then my cousin would kill a man who betrayed him.
I would get married to my girlfriend, and my cousins' love interest would be killed.
We would be the most recognized criminals in the city.
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QUOTE (LazyboyEight @ Friday, Jul 6 2012, 10:31)
I'd move to a new city and start a taxi company. I would spend years building the taxi company from the ground up and sleep under my desk until i bought an apartment nearby.
I would hire puerto rican girl, and then soon start dating her.
I would then get into some debt with russians and albanians.
I would keep getting pestered by some albanians, and go to various underground card games
Soon, my cousin who was in the war would come to the city I was in.
One day I would be doing my regular work, and then some albanians come in and my cousin would kill them
He would keep killing people until he works for various organizations like mafias and street gangs.
I'd get alot of money and buy a new apartment, and then my cousin would kill a man who betrayed him.
I would get married to my girlfriend, and my cousins' love interest would be killed.
We would be the most recognized criminals in the city.

Hey cousin, wanna go bowling?
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QUOTE (AndyGanteks @ Friday, Jul 6 2012, 08:35)
QUOTE (LazyboyEight @ Friday, Jul 6 2012, 10:31)
I'd move to a new city and start a taxi company. I would spend years building the taxi company from the ground up and sleep under my desk until i bought an apartment nearby.
I would hire puerto rican girl, and then soon start dating her.
I would then get into some debt with russians and albanians.
I would keep getting pestered by some albanians, and go to various underground card games
Soon, my cousin who was in the war would come to the city I was in.
One day I would be doing my regular work, and then some albanians come in and my cousin would kill them
He would keep killing people until he works for various organizations like mafias and street gangs.
I'd get alot of money and buy a new apartment, and then my cousin would kill a man who betrayed him.
I would get married to my girlfriend, and my cousins' love interest would be killed.
We would be the most recognized criminals in the city.

Hey cousin, wanna go bowling?

Not now, cousin, I'm busy with something.
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Become a banker.
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QUOTE (Robinski @ Friday, Jul 6 2012, 09:46)
Become a banker.

LOL
It's funny because it's true.
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First I'd come up with some super cool bad ass catchphrase, which I'd repeat to business partners and fellow criminals alike. Like Sosa:"I tell you only one time Tony, don't you try to f*ck me, don't ever try to f*ck me." In Scarface. Then I'd go out and buy a top of the line suit, get my teeth bleached, manicure, pedicure, get dead skin from my feet eaten by little fish, get a new haircut and maybe a nice new watch. You've gotta look the part. Then I'd probably just stand on a street corner with a scowl on my face, and then I'd give up.
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Buy in a bulk, mix and sell. Do this untill you have enough money to expand.

Difficult!
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QUOTE (Robinski @ Friday, Jul 6 2012, 19:46)
Become a banker.

This shall, hopefully, be true for me within half a decade to a decade. I love it how people use the term "bankster" as if it's meant to be derogatory or something. As long as western, liberal democracies rely on capitalism as its economic system, finance will always be a centre for great (but perhaps unjustified wealth). But, hey, who gives a sh*t about justification when you can make $500k plus a year by handling money which isn't even your own.

As for an actual criminal empire, the real dosh, especially in Australia, would be in cigarette smuggling. All you need is one schmuck to buy cigarettes in some Eastern European sh*thole for a dirt cheap price (like, say, $1 per packet), get that same schmuck to sneak it through customs (somehow, through his own ingenuity or through paying off some bloke working at an airport in the aforementioned armpit of a country, which shouldn't be too difficult), and find one more schmuck who'll be able to accept the cigarettes upon arrival in Australia (which, in my opinion, would be the most difficult obstacle). Assuming you can get this through, you could then sell each packet for about $10 each to a 7-11 or service centre, and they would similarly sell it on to customers for about $20. You make $9 per packet of cigarette, the actual distributors make about $10, and you make some decent pocket change (minus paying out some dividends to the aforementioned schmucks who helped you out) by acting as an agent, more or less. Can't be a bad idea, to start out with at least.
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I wouldn't. I struggle to even imagine a hypothetical scenario in which I'm a crime lord. I'm either too cowardly or too smart for that kind of life, not sure which.

Wouldn't have a clue how to go about it anyway.
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QUOTE (Stefche @ Friday, Jul 6 2012, 19:07)
As for an actual criminal empire, the real dosh, especially in Australia, would be in cigarette smuggling. All you need is one schmuck to buy cigarettes in some Eastern European sh*thole for a dirt cheap price (like, say, $1 per packet), get that same schmuck to sneak it through customs (somehow, through his own ingenuity or through paying off some bloke working at an airport in the aforementioned armpit of a country, which shouldn't be too difficult), and find one more schmuck who'll be able to accept the cigarettes upon arrival in Australia (which, in my opinion, would be the most difficult obstacle). Assuming you can get this through, you could then sell each packet for about $10 each to a 7-11 or service centre, and they would similarly sell it on to customers for about $20. You make $9 per packet of cigarette, the actual distributors make about $10, and you make some decent pocket change (minus paying out some dividends to the aforementioned schmuck who helped you out) by acting as an agent, more or less. Can't be a bad idea, to start out with at least.

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Seriously, I wouldn't get myself into the whole criminal business because I wouldn't be able to sleep at night if I were a criminal.

Too risky, too illegal, off limits for me.
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QUOTE (WF the Hobgoblin @ Friday, Jul 6 2012, 14:54)
I wouldn't. I struggle to even imagine a hypothetical scenario in which I'm a crime lord. I'm either too cowardly or too smart for that kind of life, not sure which.

Wouldn't have a clue how to go about it anyway.

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I would probably play it as safe as possible: Never touch my own stuff, don't trust anybody and hire alot of guards to protect me.

Oh, and I would buy a HUGE mansion. tounge.gif
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I'm from Chicago so... I'd run for office. Once elected the doors to the criminal [aka business] world and are wide open.
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