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Hi everyone,
Lately, I'm very interested in drumming. So I was wondering if there are any drummers on this forum? If so, I've got a few questions:
1. What kind of drumming kit do you have (picture, if possible)? 2. How long have you been playing? 3. Any video's of yourself on YouTube? 4. Do you have any 'deals' with the neighbors, regarding the noise level or things like that?
Besides that, I don't think there's an 'official' drummers-topic, so we could keep this one as the official one
I'm actually a guitarist/bassist, but I've been thinking about learning drums. I have a few questions as well.
1. How do you read music? Does each drum represent a different note, or do you just not read music at all and kind of play by ear? 2. What're those stick things that have the little brush thing at the end called, and what are they used for? 3. Does it make any difference if you hit the kick drum with a stick as opposed to the pedal (this one doesn't really matter, I'm just kind of curious)? 4. Why do some drum sets have two different bass drums? Do they sound any different?
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QUOTE (Exxon @ Friday, Jun 29 2012, 02:51)
1. What kind of drumming kit do you have (picture, if possible)? 2. How long have you been playing? 3. Any video's of yourself on YouTube? 4. Do you have any 'deals' with the neighbors, regarding the noise level or things like that?
1. Mapex Voyager 5pc "Big City" 2. Since christmas 2011 3. No 4. No if they do ask, I'll get louder.
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Rick Allen.
There's a joke about the book of One Armed Drummers, but I can't think of any, so.... Hats off to the man, Def Lep is truly World Class act of perseverance
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QUOTE (Exxon @ Friday, Jun 29 2012, 11:51)
1. What kind of drumming kit do you have (picture, if possible)? 2. How long have you been playing? 3. Any video's of yourself on YouTube? 4. Do you have any 'deals' with the neighbors, regarding the noise level or things like that?
1. Unfortunately I don't have a kit anymore but I used to have a Tama Silverstar of some sort. 2. I've been playing since I was about 13-14 so about 10 years on and off. 3. I don't 4. My neighbours were pretty noisy themselves so there was nothing they could really do.
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1. How do you read music? Does each drum represent a different note, or do you just not read music at all and kind of play by ear? 2. What're those stick things that have the little brush thing at the end called, and what are they used for? 3. Does it make any difference if you hit the kick drum with a stick as opposed to the pedal (this one doesn't really matter, I'm just kind of curious)? 4. Why do some drum sets have two different bass drums? Do they sound any different?
1. I've always played by ear. I'm partially deaf so this has become harder but it's still the best way for me. 2. They're called brushes and they're mainly used in things like jazz and blues. They give a nice and gentle sound. 3. Yes. The peddle has a beater on the end which delivers a fuller blow to the skin thus giving a fuller sound. If you hit the skin with a stick, you'll get a dull noise that sounds crap. 4. Two bass drums are simply known as double bass. They're mainly used in heavier music and they basically give the drummer more options when it comes to creating a beat or even a fill. You'll know double bass when you hear it, it's very powerful.
If you'd like some inspiration I suggest listening to Chad Smith (RHCP) or Danny Carey (Tool). They're absolutely phenomenal drummers.
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QUOTE (TheGreatGig23 @ Friday, Jun 29 2012, 13:10)
4. Two bass drums are simply known as double bass. They're mainly used in heavier music and they basically give the drummer more options when it comes to creating a beat or even a fill. You'll know double bass when you hear it, it's very powerful.
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QUOTE (King Mystery @ Saturday, Jun 30 2012, 00:19)
Do they sound the same though?
I've never really been into them so I don't really know the techniques behind it. My guess is that a vast majority of the time they do, based on what I have heard. I suppose they can sound different if the drummer wants. He could switch from a swift, sharp beat to a duller, softer thud (although he should be able to do that in a single drum anyway). The times that I have used a double bass, they sound the same.
I'll leave this question to the folks who know better.
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QUOTE (Exxon @ Saturday, Jul 7 2012, 12:13)
Guess there are no drummers on this forums eh? But does anyone know, perhaps, how much drumsticks would cost in euro's?
I get my Vic Firth ones for about £6 so I think that's about €7.50. The sticks I have are tough as f*ck, too, so you get you moneys worth. Actually, I still have a black pair from when I was fifteen. I seldom use them as they're my favourite ones and I haven't seen them around since so I don't want them to break.
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So that's all eh? Too bad ... well, I might get drums for about €225, it even has 2 crashes My father doesn't really like the idea of having drums over here, but my mom does ... if I get a job
My friend's a drummer, he's been playing for about two years or something.
I think being able to play drums is cool, but it's not really my thing. I'd much rather learn to play keyboard as I am more into composing myself. Being able to play the drums and several other instruments, now that's great since you don't have to get in a band to make music.
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QUOTE (_____ @ Sunday, Jul 15 2012, 22:05)
Being able to play the drums and several other instruments, now that's great since you don't have to get in a band to make music.
This is exactly what I'm doing at the moment. I play a few instruments but the drums and guitar are my main ones. Piano is far tougher to play than I first though. My fingers are bloody hopeless at being independent from one another.
1. What kind of drumming kit do you have (picture, if possible)? 2. How long have you been playing? 3. Any video's of yourself on YouTube? 4. Do you have any 'deals' with the neighbors, regarding the noise level or things like that?
1. An electronic kit with a bit of this and that. 2. Going on my 3rd year 3. Nup 4. ^
It's amazing, my 3rd year and I'm only just picking up properly bouncing the sticks which has helped me immensely but only with my left hand. My right can't bounce for sh*t even though that's my dominant side (even though I'm left handed, yeah I'm that f*cked). What I've always been curious about is the bass kick foot placement.
Do you guys do it heel up, heel down? Which is easier for you?
I'm a self taught drummer so I picked up a bad habit of going heel down with my right foot but now, I can manage a fast, solid beat (Think 25 or 6 to 4 which is a f*cking nightmare) but Hollywood Nights which composes of basically driving kicks throughout the song (Kick-Snare, k-k-k-s-k-k-k-s) leaves my foot in agony. The funny thing is, I can do Next To You pretty decently which again, is built upon driving kicks throughout the song (which Stewart Copeland loves to do) and being the faster song, funnily enough, I can do that one pretty well on a good day. Anyways, I decided last year to teach myself to count with the hi-hat pedal but heel up and I'm about halfway there. Heel up and with my leftie, I can do all the easy beats but rarely double kicks and nothing consistent for more than 2-3 beats but I remain proud that I've gotten this far. Still trying to teach my right foot to play heel up but I get frustrated easily because it feels so unnatural yet my leftie does it fine.
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I've always played heel up on the right and heel down on the left, pretty much the opposite of yourself. The real pain of it is that it makes controlling my left a bother because it feels wrong. As you said, teaching yourself to change position is a weird feeling. The odd part is that when I play double-bass my left foot goes heel up and I can play it with no problems, but when it comes to switching back to the hi-hat, my foot just goes all retarded and forgets what to do. Keeping it consistent for more than 2-3 beats is pretty damn challenging and it's one of those things that I really have to focus on. As for keeping count with my left foot, that's a no go. Like you, I'm self-taught and it's one of the things I never thought about so I've just got on with it. It doesn't really bother me as I'm pretty good at keeping time anyway.
I have a question, too. What was it that got you guys into drumming? And what was the first song you learnt to play in its entirety?
For me, Chad Smith and Lars Ulrich were just the most incredible sources of power I had ever heard. Chad has an incredible style and always has a really rich flow to his sound. Lars provides a brute beat and compliments the guitar and the bass more than any other drummer I've heard (Bill Ward is up there with him). Metallica, in general, were a massive source of inspiration to me so that helped.
As for the first song, it was "No One Knows" by Queens Of The Stone Age. It took me a bloody long time to figure it all out, play it right and then finally get to the stage where it became second nature. All in all, I think it took me about 4-5 months of effort but, as it was my first song, I was pretty damn happy with it. I still play it now to get myself back into "drum mode" and it's still just as fun to play. A massive compliment to Grohl's work, I think.
I have a question, too. What was it that got you guys into drumming? And what was the first song you learnt to play in its entirety?
For me, Chad Smith and Lars Ulrich were just the most incredible sources of power I had ever heard. Chad has an incredible style and always has a really rich flow to his sound. Lars provides a brute beat and compliments the guitar and the bass more than any other drummer I've heard (Bill Ward is up there with him). Metallica, in general, were a massive source of inspiration to me so that helped.
As for the first song, it was "No One Knows" by Queens Of The Stone Age. It took me a bloody long time to figure it all out, play it right and then finally get to the stage where it became second nature. All in all, I think it took me about 4-5 months of effort but, as it was my first song, I was pretty damn happy with it. I still play it now to get myself back into "drum mode" and it's still just as fun to play. A massive compliment to Grohl's work, I think.
Listening to Ringo Starr's drumwork, everything he does just works perfectly with the song. Come Together is genius. I finally turned over when I started listening to Tre Cool (Green Day). Though some of his beats are basic compared to say, Travis Barker, he provides interesting fills. I can't think of my first song, most likely something Beatles.
If you're looking to perfect No One Knows, Rock Band offers a pretty accurate representation of what's being played. 1:15 for anything interesting
While I'm thinking of it, the part you see at 1:30, how would you go about performing it? LRL R or LRL L?
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