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 Grand Theft Auto V
A NOTICE FROM STAFF > LOCKED: Discussion Complete
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theomenofficial  |
 Posted: Saturday, Jun 30 2012, 22:21
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GTA V
Group: Members
Joined: Mar 31, 2012
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| QUOTE (BlackandWhite23 @ Friday, Jun 29 2012, 21:34) | | QUOTE (SARDYNA108 @ Friday, Jun 29 2012, 21:30) | | QUOTE (BlackandWhite23 @ Friday, Jun 29 2012, 21:26) | | Posting images could lead to disaster :ExampleLook at the last 2 pages One started it and its following like a train.So their for ruls must be implied or sh*t gets crazy |
Ahahahahahaha nice find, I didnt see that  |
Yeah i remember that thread Laughed my balls of there with those funny images |
I posted the Obama one On Topic:We should really stop with the meme images. |
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| iCaramelBird |
Posted: Saturday, Jun 30 2012, 23:01
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R* Y U NO GIVE US GTA V?
Group: Members
Joined: May 28, 2012
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| QUOTE (theomenofficial @ Saturday, Jun 30 2012, 22:21) | | QUOTE (BlackandWhite23 @ Friday, Jun 29 2012, 21:34) | | QUOTE (SARDYNA108 @ Friday, Jun 29 2012, 21:30) | | QUOTE (BlackandWhite23 @ Friday, Jun 29 2012, 21:26) | | Posting images could lead to disaster :ExampleLook at the last 2 pages One started it and its following like a train.So their for ruls must be implied or sh*t gets crazy |
Ahahahahahaha nice find, I didnt see that |
Yeah i remember that thread Laughed my balls of there with those funny images |
I posted the Obama one On Topic:We should really stop with the meme images. |
Yeah I hate those 'Didn't Read LOL' ones, what you want to seem funny by the fact your attention span is under 5 seconds? I get that's it's very, but it's annoying for the person who spent a long time writing some really cool stuff and then just having someone post a 'Didn't Read' gif. |
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| Sgt. Foley |
Posted: Saturday, Jun 30 2012, 23:04
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Most Wanted
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| QUOTE (Ryan @ Saturday, Jun 30 2012, 21:37) | | QUOTE (Sgt. Foley @ Saturday, Jun 30 2012, 18:12) | | I see Vanzant did a wonderful job about a topic that should of been in the Wishlist Topic. |
If you have a problem with something a staff member did, just PM them about it, don't go complaining about it in topics. |
No, I'm not complaining! I wasn't being sarcastic either... |
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| baguvix_wanrltw |
Posted: Saturday, Jun 30 2012, 23:13
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Cynical, yeah. Bitter, probably.
Group: Members
Joined: Apr 5, 2012
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| QUOTE (Shreddy Krueger @ Saturday, Jun 30 2012, 12:06) | 1) makes the regular users here see this as presenting yourself on a stage higher than everyone else
2) where spam posts are becoming personal and you can't help but make derogatory remarks within your "this thread is locked" posts
3) Swap places with another mod/admin for X amount of time to cool off from the pure mess that the V forum has become.
4) If a member makes a bullsh*t post, or spams up a thread with memes, or makes negative, insulting comments towards the OP or any other member who posted in said thread, they're f*cking done. Perma-ban. Regardless of their posting history.
5) 500 - 1,000 posts |
I'm sorry but those are some of the worst ideas I've ever read regarding moderation. Before someone takes this as a personal attack again: I love you Shreddy, you are a wonderful person and you make the world a nicer place; also you're the smartest person in the world and have a perfect body; plus, you are my bestest friend everest.  Sorry for the sarcastic tone but some people on here really can't take any critique at all without acting like a child whose lollipop had just been taken away, I hope you are different. If I may add my opinions now... : 1) he is. He is a mod/forum leader, meaning he has authority. That MEANS he's "higher up" and IS in the position to decide what's right and what isn't for this section of the GTAF. 2) what you're referring to (as far as I can tell) is when he quotes someone who said "this is stupid and has been done 100 times" when locking a thread; however, if that's true, why should he not say it? Some topics ARE stupid, and some topics HAVE been done 100 times before. If you haven't seen any truly stupid topics on here you should "lurk moar". If you're talking about a business environment then yes, you can not call stupid people stupid, you have to say something along the lines of "there might have been a misunderstanding". On video game forums you can call stupid people and/or stupid ideas stupid, we don't have to lie here. 3) Terrible idea. Certain people have expertise in certain areas, and that's where they "belong". Swapping people around just makes sure that incompetent mods will govern the sections, plus it means they'll have to do a lot of reading through old topics, spam and other locked threads until they even have the slightest idea what to look out for. That means they'd have to give up even more of their own spare time for no rewards whatsoever. 4) If someone makes ONE "bullsh*t post" they should be permabanned? Do you realize that we wouldn't have a single active user on here (including the mods) if they did that? Same thing goes for "negative comments toward members"; if someone posts a theory that was proven wrong months ago and insists we have to consider his ever so bright idea (possibly by posting the same thread again after it was locked) I do believe I have the "right" to call that person a spammer and/or a retard; usually I just report such threads though. 5) Right, let's make sure the spammers are the only ones who can create threads... If you look through the most informative threads (aka those with actual more or less news worthy contents) of the last months you'll see that most of them were made by "junior" members which would also include people who've been here for 10 years yet don't spam as much. Plus when someone just reads the forums but then suddenly finds something interesting (like the thing with the MP3 files, or someone who can snap a pic at some gaming event) and registers to post it, and you don't let him post, well... I fail to see how that's better than what we have now. IMHO (again, my opinion, I do not know you, I do not judge your intelligence, I do not hate you, blah blah blah) you've just not given too much thought to the ideas you posted, at least not from a mods/admins perspective but probably only your own. On topic: I just read the entire thread and happened to see a lot of, imho, illegitimate criticism. I've moderated my share of forums and other kinds of online communication media and I can tell you that this is a very, very relaxed forum regarding the rules. I usually come here to have a few laughs and to find new info about V of course, which is however pretty rare as you might know. But in most other forums I visit at least 95% of the threads on here (judging by their overall quality) would not only have been locked but straight up deleted. Users like HOLDMYBALLSACK wouldn't last more than 3 posts in most other forums. Hell, I myself would have been banned a couple of times in other forums I frequent for some of what I've posted here, though I do usually try to, as Ryan put it, "keep it civilized". TL;DR: If you've modded some forums, IRC chans etc., go ahead and suggest what you need to suggest, though I doubt you could think of much that could be improved then (well, the quote-trains are something though not directly related to modding). If you haven't, better trust the mods, they do indeed know what they're doing. Follow the rules and have fun using the allowed ways, posting "didn't read lol" gifs for the 400th time isn't funny anway. This post has been edited by baguvix_wanrltw on Saturday, Jun 30 2012, 23:16
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| Exitiumx |
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ISF
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Joined: May 14, 2008
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| QUOTE (baguvix_wanrltw @ Saturday, Jun 30 2012, 23:13) | 1) he is. He is a mod/forum leader, meaning he has authority. That MEANS he's "higher up" and IS in the position to decide what's right and what isn't for this section of the GTAF.
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I just wanted to answer this one. Your other opinions are fair, as is this one, but from a different perspective; He has authority. Yes, fair enough. But he doesn't have to go around, flexing his arms because he runs a forum, blocking any threads he see's unfit to be on there. Whether it's a repost or something he finds stupid. I may of thought the thread was a good idea, or I hadn't been on the forum last week and refuse to dig and search for a specific topic. You should of heard the term "Power Corrupts and Absolute Power Corrupts Absolutely" - This is Ryan in this case, he thinks he's the big man using sarcastic comments to other users who had no knowledge whether it was a repost or that they made an apparent 'silly thread' - which also includes mocking and using swearwords towards users - users who have registered to this forum to expand the community, the community he and others apparently owns. Unfortunately, Ryan - you give a bad name to this forum, even if you're making the right choices, you're always a dick about it - like you hate every member on this forum. I highly doubt many people respect you either, they just buttlick as many people in society seem to buttlick to the highest authority when they make a presence. If you see a topic unfit, lock it with all due respect, but for the love of God, be genuine about it without having to insult someone. I know it doesn't make a difference to you, because people are going to use this forum regardless, but the only mark you'll make is the fact you were just a stuck up moderator who couldn't be arsed to get along with his community. Okay, what if some people are stupid and make stupid threads? Cut them some slack, most of them feel that their contributing - if you get the obvious troll however, fire away! Just be the big man, don't say a word or be half decent and suspend them. |
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| baguvix_wanrltw |
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Cynical, yeah. Bitter, probably.
Group: Members
Joined: Apr 5, 2012
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Well, nice to see someone actually read what I wrote  That one became a little longer than anticipated. EDIT: so did this one, sorry. But I do have to disagree. I'll probably get a lot of heat for this, but I like Ryan. And for some people who were in a similar situation I understand that this might be hard to get. Let me explain, in case you missed it: There was once a thread (the one linked in my sig) with way over 100 pages. People started asking for another thread to be created that should have nothing but facts from what has been found in the aforementioned "MP3 files" thread. I didn't have anything better to do at the time so I decided to read through the entire 100 pages and write up that thread, with links to all of the relevant posts etc. So I made the thread, and without warning, bam, Ryan locked it within less than 30 seconds. I was MAD pissed, and said Ryan could at the very least have told me in the main thread if he didn't want that "facts thread" to be created (I had announced it multiple times before creating it). But after a short while I calmed down, and started understanding that he had a very good reason to lock the thread: the condensed information I provided was better placed on the front page of the main thread, because otherwise my "facts thread" would have deteriorated into just a copy of the main thread, with discussion being spread between both. And that IS indeed a very valid reason. I think I did contribute to the forums quite a bit with that (summarizing the 100 pages, writing a tool to look through the extracted MP3 files and last but not least looking through all of the files by hand and with that tool, finding an interesting thing or two), however I just didn't do it quite right, and that was my fault and not anybody else's. I was only pissed off in the first place because I thought I had to re-do all of the links, as I couldn't just copy text AND links from the finished post, but either text or a single link at a time. However as it turned out I could still copy everything over from a tiny text editor window in the "locked" page and just posted it in the main thread, and linked it in my sig after gionascm2 (iirc) proposed that. | QUOTE (Exitiumx) | | Whether it's a repost or something he finds stupid. I may of thought the thread was a good idea, or I hadn't been on the forum last week and refuse to dig and search for a specific topic. |
But if you just flat out refuse to do your duties as the OP of a thread, how is that Ryan's fault? | QUOTE (Exitiumx) | | he thinks he's the big man using sarcastic comments |
No offense but I think you've never been a mod anywhere. Trust me: it gets REALLY tiresome, dealing with trolls all the time, locking irrelevant or duplicate threads, being called an asshole by hundreds of people; using a little sarcasm gives that job a little fun, and makes it more bearable. He doesn't get paid sh*t to do what he does all day every day. | QUOTE (Exitiumx) | | I highly doubt many people respect you either, they just buttlick as many people in society seem to buttlick to the highest authority when they make a presence |
You can think that about me too if you want, but that's just not true. If Ryan was an asshole I'd call him an asshole, just like I do with every other member here, regardless of position. But you have to understand the hardships of being a mod at a crowded place to be able to judge people in those positions. Yes, there are asshole mods on some forums; but Ryan is not one of them, he's just one of the more outspoken mods. I appreciate your post as IMHO it's among the more intelligent ones on this forum, I especially liked the power quote - but I can't help but doubt the way you think of Ryan (and probably other mods with similar attitudes as well). This post has been edited by baguvix_wanrltw on Sunday, Jul 1 2012, 02:04 |
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| zzcool |
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Big Homie
Group: Members
Joined: Feb 15, 2009
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| QUOTE (Exitiumx @ Sunday, Jul 1 2012, 01:23) | | QUOTE (baguvix_wanrltw @ Saturday, Jun 30 2012, 23:13) | 1) he is. He is a mod/forum leader, meaning he has authority. That MEANS he's "higher up" and IS in the position to decide what's right and what isn't for this section of the GTAF.
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I just wanted to answer this one. Your other opinions are fair, as is this one, but from a different perspective;
He has authority. Yes, fair enough. But he doesn't have to go around, flexing his arms because he runs a forum, blocking any threads he see's unfit to be on there.
Whether it's a repost or something he finds stupid. I may of thought the thread was a good idea, or I hadn't been on the forum last week and refuse to dig and search for a specific topic.
You should of heard the term "Power Corrupts and Absolute Power Corrupts Absolutely" - This is Ryan in this case, he thinks he's the big man using sarcastic comments to other users who had no knowledge whether it was a repost or that they made an apparent 'silly thread' - which also includes mocking and using swearwords towards users - users who have registered to this forum to expand the community, the community he and others apparently owns.
Unfortunately, Ryan - you give a bad name to this forum, even if you're making the right choices, you're always a dick about it - like you hate every member on this forum. I highly doubt many people respect you either, they just buttlick as many people in society seem to buttlick to the highest authority when they make a presence.
If you see a topic unfit, lock it with all due respect, but for the love of God, be genuine about it without having to insult someone. I know it doesn't make a difference to you, because people are going to use this forum regardless, but the only mark you'll make is the fact you were just a stuck up moderator who couldn't be arsed to get along with his community. Okay, what if some people are stupid and make stupid threads? Cut them some slack, most of them feel that their contributing - if you get the obvious troll however, fire away! Just be the big man, don't say a word or be half decent and suspend them. |
i don't really have a reason to reply but sadly i actually agree however we have no actual say in it thats their policy we are guests so thats why we are treated like guests there are ofcourse good admins aswell oh well just learn to live with it thats how it works around here thats why i am a little less on this forum ofcourse i cannot leave it because it is gtaforums i would just wish we were treated a little more fairly but thats just me then again maybe we should look at it from their side they are working every day so it's understandable that they might be angry due to all the spam they have to clean up |
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| Girish |
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Group: Moderators
Joined: Apr 20, 2006
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| QUOTE (Exitiumx @ Sunday, Jul 1 2012, 06:53) | | QUOTE (baguvix_wanrltw @ Saturday, Jun 30 2012, 23:13) | 1) he is. He is a mod/forum leader, meaning he has authority. That MEANS he's "higher up" and IS in the position to decide what's right and what isn't for this section of the GTAF.
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You know I was trying my best to stay away from this topic, but posts like these have compelled me to post. So, here goes... You might have been a member here for 4 years and might be "lurking" even before that, but you don't have the slightest idea on dealing with forums wherein majority of the members are pre-pubscent kids that are so high on testosterone that they don't realize that this is just a f*cking game. You have no idea about the amount of sh*t that we get on a daily basis and the amount of sh*t that we actually let slide. All that you see are the locked topics and think "hey that mod is such an asshole. he locked a topic for no reason. lets hate him." How about we start binning all the pointless/repeated to death topics instead? I guess you'd hate that too but then, you wouldn't know whom to blame, would you? Also, the fact that you think this forum has strict moderation means you haven't really been to any other forum as busy as this one. There are forums out there that will ban you just for disagreeing with a member of staff. Forums are not democracy. It's outright anarchy and that's made clear to you in the forums' rules if you bother to read them. Still, we do our best to run these forums in as sane a manner as possible without letting personal vendettas get in our way. I have been PMed with profanities on more than one occasion and those people are still around the forums when I could have just banned them and it wouldn't even count as violating my powers. The V forum has been constantly treated as a vessel for spam with members not realizing that this is a discussion board and not a social networking site where you comment whatever you want in any manner that you want. We are here to encourage productive, intellectual discussion but that concept is just lost on most people here. We are not going to waste our time trying to explain the obvious. The moderators here are long standing members of the community and they have been chosen not because they post a lot and are active but because they have shown enough ability and dedication to help keep this place in check. If any of us were doing anything wrong, this community would not have been here for as long as 10 years. I don't really expect you to understand the tribulation of being a moderator here because you won't unless you have actually moderated a community of this magnitude. You only need to understand that whatever we do is in the best interest of the community, whether you like it or not. We have been constantly striving to make these forums a better place. In the process, some people who are unable to grasp this are going to get butthurt and we cannot please everyone. But our efforts have not ceased and will not cease in the near future. As upstanding members of a prospering community, we expect you to behave as such and contribute in a decent manner. Revolting against staff because of a silly unjustified disagreement isn't going to get you anywhere. You won't be reprimanded for disagreeing but you won't be cutting a good picture of yourself either. So, by all means, you're free to post your thoughts, but if you don't stick to the rules, you shouldn't be crying about getting the short end of the stick.
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| BWpunisher |
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Slave to Insomnia
Group: BUSTED!
Joined: Jun 5, 2012
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| QUOTE (Girish @ Sunday, Jul 1 2012, 01:33) | | QUOTE (Exitiumx @ Sunday, Jul 1 2012, 06:53) | | QUOTE (baguvix_wanrltw @ Saturday, Jun 30 2012, 23:13) | 1) he is. He is a mod/forum leader, meaning he has authority. That MEANS he's "higher up" and IS in the position to decide what's right and what isn't for this section of the GTAF.
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You know I was trying my best to stay away from this topic, but posts like these have compelled me to post. So, here goes...
You might have been a member here for 4 years and might be "lurking" even before that, but you don't have the slightest idea on dealing with forums wherein majority of the members are pre-pubscent kids that are so high on testosterone that they don't realize that this is just a f*cking game. You have no idea about the amount of sh*t that we get on a daily basis and the amount of sh*t that we actually let slide. All that you see are the locked topics and think "hey that mod is such an asshole. he locked a topic for no reason. lets hate him." How about we start binning all the pointless/repeated to death topics instead? I guess you'd hate that too but then, you wouldn't know whom to blame, would you?
Also, the fact that you think this forum has strict moderation means you haven't really been to any other forum as busy as this one. There are forums out there that will ban you just for disagreeing with a member of staff. Forums are not democracy. It's outright anarchy and that's made clear to you in the forums' rules if you bother to read them. Still, we do our best to run these forums in as sane a manner as possible without letting personal vendettas get in our way. I have been PMed with profanities on more than one occasion and those people are still around the forums when I could have just banned them and it wouldn't even count as violating my powers.
The V forum has been constantly treated as a vessel for spam with members not realizing that this is a discussion board and not a social networking site where you comment whatever you want in any manner that you want. We are here to encourage productive, intellectual discussion but that concept is just lost on most people here. We are not going to waste our time trying to explain the obvious.
The moderators here are long standing members of the community and they have been chosen not because they post a lot and are active but because they have shown enough ability and dedication to help keep this place in check. If any of us were doing anything wrong, this community would not have been here for as long as 10 years.
I don't really expect you to understand the tribulation of being a moderator here because you won't unless you have actually moderated a community of this magnitude. You only need to understand that whatever we do is in the best interest of the community, whether you like it or not. We have been constantly striving to make these forums a better place. In the process, some people who are unable to grasp this are going to get butthurt and we cannot please everyone. But our efforts have not ceased and will not cease in the near future.
As upstanding members of a prospering community, we expect you to behave as such and contribute in a decent manner. Revolting against staff because of a silly unjustified disagreement isn't going to get you anywhere. You won't be reprimanded for disagreeing but you won't be cutting a good picture of yourself either. So, by all means, you're free to post your thoughts, but if you don't stick to the rules, you shouldn't be crying about getting the short end of the stick. |
I am so sorry to post a gif. This will be one of the odd times, I swear....but I feel that the gif will say everything I feel about the above post:  *If it pisses anyone off, let me know and I will edit my post to get rid of it* You're the ones that have to deal with this sh*t on a daily basis. That's why when I got my warnings and posting bans, I took that sh*t seriously as to why and I changed how I post. I even PM'ed Ryan to ask if there are any issues with the way I continue to post, because you mods have your hands full as it is with the crap that goes on here and I don't want to get banned because I can't get away with most of the stuff that's against the rules due to being a new member. I am here quite often, so I see the threads that pop up and that one night when we had like a dozen threads about dildos and whether or not people wanted a certain character to return in V just so they could have sex with him.....wtf. That is obviously trolling and I imagine it gets tiring as f*ck to have to deal with it day after day. You make the rules of this forum, and we have to follow them as best we can if we want to stay here.
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