[lucy12345]

By "winning" do you mean Charlie Sheen as the protag?

[CantPauseToast]

Hot-Shots: Part Don't.

I'd like a guy down on his luck but determined to just sh*t on everyone because that's all he has left. Perhaps he's clinging to something. A similar character to Max Payne, but with more people around him and not tied up in alcoholism or painkillers.

This post has been edited by CantPauseToast on Friday, Aug 10 2012, 15:47

[CSM. HB J-DOGG]

QUOTE (ThePinkFloydSound @ Thursday, Aug 9 2012, 19:33)

QUOTE (Official General @ Thursday, Aug 9 2012, 16:33) Sorry, that Ned Luke guy just don't don't appeal to me. A middle-aged white guy in 40s/50s, now a washed-up, ageing mobster that wants to live in the suburbs ? Some older guy running around on a crime rampage and dealing with gangs and cartels, when he should be in his home living well in a house robe and slippers ? Nah, to me it sounds real boring and unsuited to the sunny, glamorous, fast-life, LA setting. I'd rather the younger, Hispanic guy - very plausible connections and dealings with LA street gangs and Mexican drug cartels, very exciting - plus he's younger and more 'with the times'. I'm not trying to change your mind but I will attempt to open your mind. Hispanic guy seems generic as the other guy said and a little bit obvious. What you described about Ned Luke guy is just what Rockstar is showing us. You don't know his background. He could have been a convicted rapist with a taste torture. He could have murdered his ex-wife cause the police tried to turn her over. So, I'm more intrigued by the mystery of Ned Luke rather than the more stereotypical Hispanic guy.

Dont mean to be an ass and all but there is nothing more Stereotypical than a middle age white guy trying to gain or hold on to power.lmao No Race War but its true.

[gta v fanatic]

What about the a Mexican Drug Cartel leader? Somehow the story goes with the Cartel dealing with the Mafia and chaos happens during a deal and both try to claim LS or something along those lines? Maybe the other way around?

[CSM. HB J-DOGG]

QUOTE (gta v fanatic @ Monday, Aug 13 2012, 17:46)

What about the a Mexican Drug Cartel leader? Somehow the story goes with the Cartel dealing with the Mafia and chaos happens during a deal and both try to claim LS or something along those lines? Maybe the other way around?

More of Cartel dealing with Street gangs the Mafia are dinosaurs. They are through they will never have the power they once had again.

[canttakemyid]

QUOTE (CSM. HB J-DOGG @ Monday, Aug 13 2012, 15:06)

QUOTE (gta v fanatic @ Monday, Aug 13 2012, 17:46) What about the a Mexican Drug Cartel leader? Somehow the story goes with the Cartel dealing with the Mafia and chaos happens during a deal and both try to claim LS or something along those lines? Maybe the other way around? More of Cartel dealing with Street gangs the Mafia are dinosaurs. They are through they will never have the power they once had again.

They will never have the influence they once had because they thought they were to high and mighty for the drug trade; which is the most lucrative illicit (for now) product on the face of the planet. They really shot themselves in the foot there. I wouldn't go so far as to say they are "through" though. They are no-where near through.

These "Mafia" guys are more close-knit and often make more than enough money to support a family in an upper-middle class environment where their kids can be sent to college and remain sheltered from the mob lifestyle (usually). Those lucky enough to work their way up in cartels and street gangs have way more power than the "Mafia"; but in turn gets way more law enforcement attention, generally don't live beyond their 30s, more likely to involve their kids in the lifestyle, and usually spend their years in jail. Power isn't everything anymore.

[CSM. HB J-DOGG]

QUOTE (canttakemyid @ Monday, Aug 13 2012, 19:21)

QUOTE (CSM. HB J-DOGG @ Monday, Aug 13 2012, 15:06) QUOTE (gta v fanatic @ Monday, Aug 13 2012, 17:46) What about the a Mexican Drug Cartel leader? Somehow the story goes with the Cartel dealing with the Mafia and chaos happens during a deal and both try to claim LS or something along those lines? Maybe the other way around? More of Cartel dealing with Street gangs the Mafia are dinosaurs. They are through they will never have the power they once had again. They will never have the influence they once had because they thought they were to high and mighty for the drug trade; which is the most lucrative illicit (for now) product on the face of the planet. They really shot themselves in the foot there. I wouldn't go so far as to say they are "through" though. They are no-where near through. These "Mafia" guys are more close-knit and often make more than enough money to support a family in an upper-middle class environment where their kids can be sent to college and remain sheltered from the mob lifestyle (usually). Those lucky enough to work their way up in cartels and street gangs have way more power than the "Mafia"; but in turn gets way more law enforcement attention, generally don't live beyond their 30s, more likely to involve their kids in the lifestyle, and usually spend their years in jail. Power isn't everything anymore.

Yeah the problem is people in the Street Organizations dont know when to retire. I mean if your are 28 and have 10 mil its time to retire. What often happeneds these days is they get 10 mil and say now I want 100mil then its 200mil. lol The ones that survived knew when to quit. The Mafia did get into the drug trade a little bit at least some families did. The problem was in NYC it was too late Mickey Barnes and Frank Lucus where too big and had armys that were too big. Hell Frank had people in the Military bringing it back in coffins. He was the Main supplier.

[kid23455]

I want to play as a fat, 80 year old forever alone bum who has no idea how to shoot a gun, and you slowly have to work yourself from the brink of death to your (annoyingly) typical athletic, black haired, straight white guy.
He'd be the most likable character ever created in a video game.

But really on the forever alone thing. Relationships in GTA only develop for two reasons: One, you want to know if you can have sex with them, Two: You want whatever bonus they give. Nobody honestly gives a sh*t about them, stop thinking we can develop emotional connections by going out and playing a sh*tty version of darts, Rockstar.

[Kwazdog]

All of the above. There should be multiple well developed personalities / Voice Actors to select...

[Official General]

QUOTE (canttakemyid @ Monday, Aug 13 2012, 19:21)

QUOTE (CSM. HB J-DOGG @ Monday, Aug 13 2012, 15:06) QUOTE (gta v fanatic @ Monday, Aug 13 2012, 17:46) What about the a Mexican Drug Cartel leader? Somehow the story goes with the Cartel dealing with the Mafia and chaos happens during a deal and both try to claim LS or something along those lines? Maybe the other way around? More of Cartel dealing with Street gangs the Mafia are dinosaurs. They are through they will never have the power they once had again. They will never have the influence they once had because they thought they were to high and mighty for the drug trade; which is the most lucrative illicit (for now) product on the face of the planet. They really shot themselves in the foot there. I wouldn't go so far as to say they are "through" though. They are no-where near through. These "Mafia" guys are more close-knit and often make more than enough money to support a family in an upper-middle class environment where their kids can be sent to college and remain sheltered from the mob lifestyle (usually). Those lucky enough to work their way up in cartels and street gangs have way more power than the "Mafia"; but in turn gets way more law enforcement attention, generally don't live beyond their 30s, more likely to involve their kids in the lifestyle, and usually spend their years in jail. Power isn't everything anymore.

@ canttakemyid

Nice post, I agree with this

You definitely know a bit about this sh*t and how it works bro. One thing I will say, is that your comment about the Mafia thinking they were too high and mighty for drugs is not fully accurate. The Mafia actually did deal in drugs in a big way - they controlled most of the heroin trade in the USA from the 1950s up until the mid 1980s. At that time, the Mafia in America were importing nearly all the best quality heroin coming into the U.S. from their Mafia cousins back in Sicily, who got the stuff from Turkey via southern Asia, and the operation was carried out in such a secretive, sophisticated manner that the Mafia used outsiders to deal for them and only the Mafia bosses themselves were authorized and allowed to reap the profits. Not too many people were supposed to know about this. Individual rank-and-file, lower-level Mafiosi were told not to deal drugs because of the "heat and attention" it brings from law enforcement, and the high danger of of heavy prison sentences that may give an incentive to betray their own Mafia brethren to the government in exchange for a reduced sentence, hence why the penalty was death if they were caught. The real rule was not "don't deal drugs", it was not to get caught dealing drugs. However, the Pizza Connection, subsequent RICO prosecutions and the smashing of the Sicily-U.S. drug ended the Mafia's total dominance in the U.S. heroin trade. The Mafia cannot dominate the cocaine or weed trade, simply because they do not have direct access to the source of those drugs; cocaine does not grow in Italy or the USA, and weed can be grown anywhere in controlled conditions. If they could they would, but they cannot, so they do not play a major role on those drug trades.

This post has been edited by Official General on Monday, Aug 13 2012, 22:39

[CSM. HB J-DOGG]

QUOTE (Official General @ Monday, Aug 13 2012, 21:41)

QUOTE (canttakemyid @ Monday, Aug 13 2012, 19:21) QUOTE (CSM. HB J-DOGG @ Monday, Aug 13 2012, 15:06) QUOTE (gta v fanatic @ Monday, Aug 13 2012, 17:46) What about the a Mexican Drug Cartel leader? Somehow the story goes with the Cartel dealing with the Mafia and chaos happens during a deal and both try to claim LS or something along those lines? Maybe the other way around? More of Cartel dealing with Street gangs the Mafia are dinosaurs. They are through they will never have the power they once had again. They will never have the influence they once had because they thought they were to high and mighty for the drug trade; which is the most lucrative illicit (for now) product on the face of the planet. They really shot themselves in the foot there. I wouldn't go so far as to say they are "through" though. They are no-where near through. These "Mafia" guys are more close-knit and often make more than enough money to support a family in an upper-middle class environment where their kids can be sent to college and remain sheltered from the mob lifestyle (usually). Those lucky enough to work their way up in cartels and street gangs have way more power than the "Mafia"; but in turn gets way more law enforcement attention, generally don't live beyond their 30s, more likely to involve their kids in the lifestyle, and usually spend their years in jail. Power isn't everything anymore. @ canttakemyid Nice post, I agree with this You definitely know a bit about this sh*t and how it works bro. One thing I will say, is that your comment about the Mafia thinking they were too high and mighty for drugs is not fully accurate. The Mafia actually did deal in drugs in a big way - they controlled most of the heroin trade in the USA from the 1950s up until the mid 1980s. At that time, the Mafia in America were importing nearly all the best quality heroin coming into the U.S. from their Mafia cousins back in Sicily, and the operation was carried out in such a secretive, sophisticated manner that the Mafia used outsiders to deal for them and only the Mafia bosses themselves were authorized and allowed to reap the profits. Not too many people were supposed to know about this. Individual rank-and-file, lower-level Mafiosi were told not to deal drugs because of the "heat and attention" it brings from law enforcement, and the high danger of of heavy prison sentences that may give an incentive to betray their own Mafia brethren to the government in exchange for a reduced sentence, hence why the penalty was death if they were caught. The real rule was not "don't deal drugs", it was not to get caught dealing drugs. However, the Pizza Connection, subsequent RICO prosecutions and the smashing of the Sicily-U.S. drug ended the Mafia's total dominance in the U.S. heroin trade. The Mafia cannot dominate the cocaine or weed trade, simply because they do not have direct access to the source of those drugs; cocaine does not grow in Italy or the USA, and weed can be grown anywhere in controlled conditions. If they could they would, but they cannot, so they do not play a major role on those drug trades.

@Official yeah but the best quality no doubt was Blue Magic and we know who they got that from Frank Lucus

[Official General]

QUOTE (CSM. HB J-DOGG @ Monday, Aug 13 2012, 22:36)

QUOTE (Official General @ Monday, Aug 13 2012, 21:41) QUOTE (canttakemyid @ Monday, Aug 13 2012, 19:21) QUOTE (CSM. HB J-DOGG @ Monday, Aug 13 2012, 15:06) QUOTE (gta v fanatic @ Monday, Aug 13 2012, 17:46) What about the a Mexican Drug Cartel leader? Somehow the story goes with the Cartel dealing with the Mafia and chaos happens during a deal and both try to claim LS or something along those lines? Maybe the other way around? More of Cartel dealing with Street gangs the Mafia are dinosaurs. They are through they will never have the power they once had again. They will never have the influence they once had because they thought they were to high and mighty for the drug trade; which is the most lucrative illicit (for now) product on the face of the planet. They really shot themselves in the foot there. I wouldn't go so far as to say they are "through" though. They are no-where near through. These "Mafia" guys are more close-knit and often make more than enough money to support a family in an upper-middle class environment where their kids can be sent to college and remain sheltered from the mob lifestyle (usually). Those lucky enough to work their way up in cartels and street gangs have way more power than the "Mafia"; but in turn gets way more law enforcement attention, generally don't live beyond their 30s, more likely to involve their kids in the lifestyle, and usually spend their years in jail. Power isn't everything anymore. @ canttakemyid Nice post, I agree with this You definitely know a bit about this sh*t and how it works bro. One thing I will say, is that your comment about the Mafia thinking they were too high and mighty for drugs is not fully accurate. The Mafia actually did deal in drugs in a big way - they controlled most of the heroin trade in the USA from the 1950s up until the mid 1980s. At that time, the Mafia in America were importing nearly all the best quality heroin coming into the U.S. from their Mafia cousins back in Sicily, and the operation was carried out in such a secretive, sophisticated manner that the Mafia used outsiders to deal for them and only the Mafia bosses themselves were authorized and allowed to reap the profits. Not too many people were supposed to know about this. Individual rank-and-file, lower-level Mafiosi were told not to deal drugs because of the "heat and attention" it brings from law enforcement, and the high danger of of heavy prison sentences that may give an incentive to betray their own Mafia brethren to the government in exchange for a reduced sentence, hence why the penalty was death if they were caught. The real rule was not "don't deal drugs", it was not to get caught dealing drugs. However, the Pizza Connection, subsequent RICO prosecutions and the smashing of the Sicily-U.S. drug ended the Mafia's total dominance in the U.S. heroin trade. The Mafia cannot dominate the cocaine or weed trade, simply because they do not have direct access to the source of those drugs; cocaine does not grow in Italy or the USA, and weed can be grown anywhere in controlled conditions. If they could they would, but they cannot, so they do not play a major role on those drug trades. @Official yeah but the best quality no doubt was Blue Magic and we know who they got that from Frank Lucus

Yeah but Frank Lucas was just one guy that was clever enough to get the direct source, along with Frankie Matthews. The Mafia had the Sicilian Connection which dominated the U.S. heroin trade - most of it was 90 per cent pure at the time as it was refined in labs in Sicily. Even African-American drug kingpins like Lucas, Nicky Barnes and Frankie Mathews first bought their drugs from renegade Mafiosi and Corsican dealers, or Jewish mobsters that acted as middlemen for the Mafia.

[Blood_Money]

I want a perfect mix of Badass/Mellow....Puts on shades....Deal with it.