[Jack.]

Okay, So I have my mind set on this build, But I compared it to something else and tho it may cost more. It might save me for the future.

this is the build I'm having 2nd thoughts on



Case
COOLERMASTER ELITE 310 BLUE CASE

Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™i7 Quad Core Processor i7-3770 (3.4GHz) 8MB Cache

Motherboard
ASUS® P8H77-M: M-ATX, DDR3, USB 3.0, SATA 6.0Gb/s, CrossFireX™

Memory (RAM)
8GB SAMSUNG DUAL-DDR3 1333MHz (2 X 4GB)

Graphics Card
1GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 560 Ti - 2 DVI,HDMI,VGA - 3D Vision Ready

Memory - 1st Hard Disk
1TB 3.5" SATA-III 6GB/s HDD 7200RPM 32MB CACHE

Power Supply
CORSAIR 650W ENTHUSIAST SERIES™ TX650 V2-80 PLUS® BRONZE

Total Cost: £900


Then I checked out this build......

Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™i5-2500k Quad Core (3.30GHz, 6MB Cache) + HD Graphics

Motherboard
ASUS® SABERTOOTH Z77: USB 3.0, SATA 6.0GB/s, THERMAL ARMOR

Memory (RAM)
8GB SAMSUNG DUAL-DDR3 1333MHz (2 X 4GB)

Graphics Card
2GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 560 Ti - 2 DVI,HDMI,VGA - 3D Vision Ready

Memory - 1st Hard Disk
1TB WD CAVIAR GREEN WD10EARX, SATA 6 Gb/s, 64MB CACHE

Power Supply
CORSAIR 750W ENTHUSIAST SERIES™ TX750 V2-80 PLUS® BRONZE

£1035.

I may have to sell my xbox to get the second one. Which I would rather not do but if you guys think it would pay of more then I will.

What do you think?

How will the 2nd build compare to the first.

[PrometheusX]

They're almost the same, but I don't think the GPU is good enough. For that price you should get at least a GTX 570.

[Jack.]

£20 exra. May be able to afford it.

[sivispacem]

In relation to the second build, there's sod-all point getting the Sabretooth unless you are looking to do some massive overclocks. And for massive overclocks, you'll need water cooling really.

[yojo2]

First rig:
- old computer case, there is already a succesor to 310 out on the market - 311;
- CPU overclocking is impossible on this rig.

Second rig:
- very expensive motherboard I seroiusly doubt you need it;
- GPU with weak price/performance ratio, HD7850 is better in that price range;
- HDD is quite slow;
- you don't need 750W for this rig, it's a bit of a waste IMHO.

You can definitely have something way better for that price. £1035 for a PC with GTX560Ti? Sounds like a joke... quite a bad one.

£178,98 Intel CPU Core i5 3570K Quad Core
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/29-4intel-c...mart-cache-34x-

£399,34 Sapphire Overclocked Radeon HD 7970 AMD Graphics Card - 3GB
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/3gb-sapphir...displayport-dl-

£78,92 MSI Z77A-G45 Intel Z77 Socket 1155
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/msi-z77a-g4...-dvi-d-hdmi-atx

£68,52 Seagate 1TB SATA 3 ST1000DM003
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/1tb-seagate...che-8ms-ncq-oem

£42,19 Corsair Memory XMS3 8GB DDR3 1600 MHz CAS 9 Dual Channel Desktop
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/8gb-(2x4gb)...as-9-9-9-24-15v

£63,06 550W OCZ ZT Modular PSU
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/550w-ocz-zt...5-year-warranty

£16,88 PIONEER DVR-S19LBK DVD Writer, SATA, Labelflash, Retail
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/pioneer-dvr...tail-labelflash

£54,00 Lian Li PC-K58B Lancool Dragon Lord K
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/lian-li-pc-...ng-case-w-o-psu

£31,93 Coolermaster Hyper 612S CPU Cooler
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/coolermaste...6-1366-am3-am2p

£65,57 Crucial 64GB m4 Slim 7mm SSD - Solid State Drive - CT064M4SSD1
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/64gb-crucia...mb-s-35000-iops

= £999,39

For a grand you could easily have a rig with HD7970 on board, and there was money left for a proper cooling and a SSD too.

[Jack.]

QUOTE (sivispacem @ Sunday, Jun 3 2012, 08:39)

In relation to the second build, there's sod-all point getting the Sabretooth unless you are looking to do some massive overclocks. And for massive overclocks, you'll need water cooling really.

Added water cooling, Thats me. No more suggestions please

EDIT: Just added a 2GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 670

Better yes?

Ok guys, I think I've mad this PC supreme. Check it out

http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/results/

Yes alot of money, But only £40 a month for 2 years, and im starting college soon which I will get £50 a month for 2 years also.

All sorted

This post has been edited by Jack. on Sunday, Jun 3 2012, 09:07

[sivispacem]

You'd be financially much better off building a system yourself. You'll also need to post a full spec on here, because your link doesn't work. At a rough guide, in the circa £1000 area, I would be looking at (as a rough guide) one very similar to the one Yojo2 posted there- though my personal preference would be for a GTX680 or, if I could push it budget-wise (quite a lot, actually), a pair of GTX670s. I'd also consider a Corsair H100 or waiting out for the Cool Master Eisberg 240 to be released instead of air cooling, especially if you intend to overclock (the Eisberg is set to be the closest thing in terms of temps to custom water cooler systems you can get). Costs would stay pretty similar unless you went for a pair of GTX670, which would push the budget up to £1200 or so.

[Jack.]

Full Specs

Case
PCS MAELSTROM T900 BLACK GAMING CASE

Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™i7 Quad Core Processor i7-3770K (3.5GHz) 8MB Cache

Motherboard
ASUS® SABERTOOTH Z77: USB 3.0, SATA 6.0GB/s, THERMAL ARMOR

Memory (RAM)
8GB SAMSUNG DUAL-DDR3 1333MHz (2 X 4GB)

Graphics Card
2GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 670 - 2 DVI, HDMI, DP - 3D Vision Ready

Memory - 1st Hard Disk
1TB WD CAVIAR GREEN WD10EARX, SATA 6 Gb/s, 64MB CACHE

Power Supply
CORSAIR 750W ENTHUSIAST SERIES™ TX750 V2-80 PLUS® BRONZE

[finn4life]

QUOTE (Jack. @ Sunday, Jun 3 2012, 21:59)

Full Specs Case PCS MAELSTROM T900 BLACK GAMING CASE Processor (CPU) Intel® Core™i7 Quad Core Processor i7-3770K (3.5GHz) 8MB Cache Motherboard ASUS® SABERTOOTH Z77: USB 3.0, SATA 6.0GB/s, THERMAL ARMOR Memory (RAM) 8GB SAMSUNG DUAL-DDR3 1333MHz (2 X 4GB) Graphics Card 2GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 670 - 2 DVI, HDMI, DP - 3D Vision Ready Memory - 1st Hard Disk 1TB WD CAVIAR GREEN WD10EARX, SATA 6 Gb/s, 64MB CACHE Power Supply CORSAIR 750W ENTHUSIAST SERIES™ TX750 V2-80 PLUS® BRONZE

How much? 960 in total? Well you are still getting an overpowered imbalanced motherboard.

Also, you really think you can afford 40 a month when you're earning 50?
You;re digging yourself a hole, you can't afford that.

This post has been edited by finn4life on Sunday, Jun 3 2012, 11:12

[Jack.]

I get £50 free from my college, I get another £50 off my dad and another £50 off my mum a month, I'm only 16. And I might have a job ligned up soon

Anyway lets stay away from personal aye?

Will this build be able to run Max Payne 3 good? On which settings?

Also what do you mean by the motherboard is imbalanced??
It's too weak or too powerfull?

This post has been edited by Jack. on Sunday, Jun 3 2012, 11:31

[DeeperRed]

You can only take the credit option if your over 18 and working at least 16 hours a week. So unless your parents are doing it you won't be able to get to perform the £40 week payment plan.

I also suggest building yourself as well, it would save you money and its nothing more then an electronic jigsaw puzzle (except easier). I build computers now and then, and upgrade mine when I have the funds. My favorite site for parts is www.scan.co.uk they have every part under the sun, very fast delivery and if your parents are doing it there is also various finance options. Building also good because you start with a blank OS with no f*cking bloatware.

[Jack.]

Yeah it my parents doing it and my mum works 9-6 Mon-Sat.

[finn4life]

QUOTE (Jack. @ Sunday, Jun 3 2012, 22:13)

Anyway lets stay away from personal aye? Also what do you mean by the motherboard is imbalanced?? It's too weak or too powerfull?

Well it's important that we don't dig you into a hole so you end up with no money will eventually have to return the computer, i was merely making sure, it is now clear you have the necessary funds.

The Motherboard is too powerful and too expensive it has more features than you require as yoyo pointed out.

This post has been edited by finn4life on Monday, Jun 4 2012, 21:36

[sivispacem]

QUOTE (finn4life @ Monday, Jun 4 2012, 20:59)

The Motherboard is too powerful.

This. As I've said before, there's no point going for a ~£200+ ultra-overclock-able motherboard unless your doing some ridiculous stuff with it. You could save about 10% of the entire damn build cost by changing the mobo.

[Jack.]

I can choose from these one's.

Don't tell me not to buy from this site, Please just tell me one that works right for the rest of the spec's

[Stinky12]

I've notice that Asus TUF boards aren't that feature rich compared to their mainstream line up. For the extra cost all you get is that 2 year extra warranty, thermal armor (plastic motherboard cover), and bunch of cooling sensors if you're paranoid about anything going up in smoke.
Get the Asus P8Z77-V Pro or P8Z77-V but this one don't have USB Bios flash back
The Pro has, but it's a small button on the board instead of a button in the rear. The Pro also has 2x USB 3.0 internal header
1 running from the Asmedia and the other running off the Intel PCH. Intel PCH supports Asus UASP

[Jack.]

So I'm going with the Asus P8Z77-V Pro.

Thanks Stinky

[sivispacem]

QUOTE (Stinky12 @ Monday, Jun 4 2012, 23:28)

I've notice that Asus TUF boards aren't that feature rich compared to their mainstream line up. For the extra cost all you get is that 2 year extra warranty, thermal armor (plastic motherboard cover), and bunch of cooling sensors if you're paranoid about anything going up in smoke.

Really? I can only talk about my experiences with TUF motherboards versus RoG series (some of the builds I've done for friends have used the Sabretooth, and my own rig runs a Crosshair IV, and I found that aside from the automatic overclock function and "memtest" button for erasing dodgy memory overclocks, they're pretty much identical. Except the TUF boards all come with 5 or 7 year warranties, which is great.

[Stinky12]

Comparing the TUF to ROG, they're similar under the hood, but when looked from a visual stand point one can clearly see the ROG has packed more stuffs on to it. For start it has onboard power/reset switches, Debug LED for easier diagnostics, PCIe dip switches, more PCIe x16 slots, more I/O ports. It also has bluetooth, wifi or either both.
I guess in order for the 2 extra year in warranty for the TUF, Asus has to strip as much stuffs as possible, that may fail way before the 5 year warranty expires.

Asus P8Z77-V Pro vs Asus Sabertooth Z77

Asus P8Z77-V Pro


Asus Sabertooth Z77 (Thermal Armor removed)


Asus P8Z77-V Pro Rear I/O


Asus Sabertooth Z77 Rear I/O


This post has been edited by Stinky12 on Tuesday, Jun 5 2012, 22:42