[JayCMMX]

Look at this... all of this. These forums we're blessed with. The dedication, the community, the history and systematic fluidity that have solidified to make GTAForums not only the largest and the highest quality of ANY other forums dedicated to GTA, but yet still one of the greatest forums on the entire internet... for over a decade.



Give me half of a reason why anything could service this community better than we are... show me... because I'd love to see this unfathomable perspective. But, thank you for sharing and discussing information in the hope and will of making our community a little better.

[Xcommunicated]

QUOTE (nic_23 @ Friday, May 25 2012, 11:32)

@Xcommunicated i made a topic about the 80kb limit and it got threw out the window, im sure it would be one thing that would not be so hard to change? if its one feature that could be changed i think it would be a good one and hope it is taken into consideration.

Yeah, it's dicked up that no one can use a high quality png sig. If it were up to me, I'd bump the limit up to 150kb. Anyone on a slow connection or limited by a usage cap could disable sigs/avs in their cp. Not my call though.

[SlickSpencer8]

QUOTE (JayCMMX @ Friday, May 25 2012, 16:55)

Give me half of a reason why anything could service this community better than we are... show me... because I'd love to see this unfathomable perspective. But, thank you for sharing and discussing information in the hope and will of making our community a little better.

You got me totally lost on what you just said. Anyways, I gave at least a half of a page why we should change a different forum. And how about a change for once. How about we put up a vote to see what other people want instead of what these mods and admins want.. Because it always gets blown up and forgotten and nobody get's anywhere.

And I know someone is going to put well it's not a right it's a privilege sh*t. All it is-is a suggestion... Because truthly I see where the mods/admins are coming from but then again from the few like myself and others we know what we are talking about. Cause truthfully, let's be honest and I've talked to other people about this forum and it's if we want a change we need to do it ourselves. Like make our own forum, then people always criticize "oh, well there coping us and they think were better" and truthfully you guys obviously have dedicated members like myself and they aren't going to another forum. And then you have the people on this forum

But if you guys really really take these suggestion's in then how about we make an anonymous vote and then if you get more yes'es then you guys seriousally put the pro's and cons with both forums and you guys go from there. Because truthfully some of you guys don't know what you are talking about.

[Andrew]

Regarding the signature, because no one would be happy what we set and want more and more, and now more and more members are browsing on smart phones using data connections that it's more important we keep the signature size down.

-gta forum currency (used for donating to members for graphics help or modding help etc)
(Er no, it's a gimmick and is more than likely to be a abused)

-like/dislike system (or reputation feature)
- No, been done before got abused.

-increse sig limit size to 120kb
- No read above.

-make avatar size 100x100
- No, 64x64 is perfectly adequate at the moment. My point stands about using smart phone browsers.

-add a feature so you can see who has been on your profile
- Er no. Why are you wanting to see who has viewed your profile?

-maybe with a currency system you can buy a username change
- Username changes are disabled due to system issues, not because we don't want to do them.

-ability to comment on other users profiles
- Er no, this is a forum if you've anything to discuss, post it and let others discuss it

-maybe a better contact list system
- Works perfectly fine for me.

Most of your 'suggestions' are akin to features that facebook has. We don't need them here.

There is a reason that we are one of the biggest and most active forums for GTA. And so far it seems that despite the issues IPB throws at us, we are working out fine.

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How about we put up a vote to see what other people want instead of what these mods and admins ....

Because this is a free service that more than likely costs a fair amount to run, not to mention the amount of hacks we've added to IPB to support the features we want. We are writing our own software so that we can customize it how we see fit and expand it further when needed.

We've evaluated lots of options before, and it just isn't feasible. Our forums contains lots of users, topics and posts. We'd have to find a way to transfer all that over to fit in with a new softwares schemea it just won't work.

Zetaboards would not work for us, they wouldn't be able to cope with the amount of traffic this site generates.

[SlickSpencer8]

QUOTE (Andrew @ Friday, May 25 2012, 19:09)

Regarding the signature, because no one would be happy what we set and want more and more, and now more and more members are browsing on smart phones using data connections that it's more important we keep the signature size down. -gta forum currency (used for donating to members for graphics help or modding help etc) (Er no, it's a gimmick and is more than likely to be a abused) -like/dislike system (or reputation feature) - No, been done before got abused. -increse sig limit size to 120kb - No read above. -make avatar size 100x100 - No, 64x64 is perfectly adequate at the moment. My point stands about using smart phone browsers. -add a feature so you can see who has been on your profile - Er no. Why are you wanting to see who has viewed your profile? -maybe with a currency system you can buy a username change - Username changes are disabled due to system issues, not because we don't want to do them. -ability to comment on other users profiles - Er no, this is a forum if you've anything to discuss, post it and let others discuss it -maybe a better contact list system - Works perfectly fine for me. Most of your 'suggestions' are akin to features that facebook has. We don't need them here. There is a reason that we are one of the biggest and most active forums for GTA. And so far it seems that despite the issues IPB throws at us, we are working out fine. QUOTE How about we put up a vote to see what other people want instead of what these mods and admins .... Because this is a free service that more than likely costs a fair amount to run, not to mention the amount of hacks we've added to IPB to support the features we want. We are writing our own software so that we can customize it how we see fit and expand it further when needed. We've evaluated lots of options before, and it just isn't feasible. Our forums contains lots of users, topics and posts. We'd have to find a way to transfer all that over to fit in with a new softwares schemea it just won't work. Zetaboards would not work for us, they wouldn't be able to cope with the amount of traffic this site generates.

OK, well look at the Max Pane 3 forums... They have a good amount of people there and there forums work great. And like I said already, IT'S NOT IMPOSSIBLE TO MAKE THOSE 'HACKS' on those forums. You can practically make the same things over there and I know plenty of people that have had the same forum like you guys and move to zetaboards and every post and every member got over there fine. Nobody had to change anything and really the admins and mods just had to learn a few things and other members had to learn a few new BB codes and everything turned out great and they are loving the new forums and they have huge amounts of member over there...

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QUOTE (Andrew @ Friday, May 25 2012, 14:09)

Regarding the signature, because no one would be happy what we set and want more and more, and now more and more members are browsing on smart phones using data connections that it's more important we keep the signature size down.

Actually, I think most people would be happy with a 150kb limit to work with. I remember people like Moto making some impressive animated sigs back in the day that were around 150kb, but couldn't use them with the 80kb limit.

Regarding phones and data plans, most people should have a fundamental understanding of their plan and use the light skin with images disabled.

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QUOTE (SlickSpencer8 @ Friday, May 25 2012, 14:26)

OK, well look at the Max Pane 3 forums... They have a good amount of people there and there forums work great. And like I said already, IT'S NOT IMPOSSIBLE TO MAKE THOSE 'HACKS' on those forums. You can practically make the same things over there and I know plenty of people that have had the same forum like you guys and move to zetaboards and every post and every member got over there fine. Nobody had to change anything and really the admins and mods just had to learn a few things and other members had to learn a few new BB codes and everything turned out great and they are loving the new forums and they have huge amounts of member over there...

Zetaboards is out of the question for reasons explained by STM on the last page. IF they were to move to a new software, it'd likely be (SMF) Simple Machines Forum, but there's no point if V2 happens, even if it takes another decade to be completed..

[Butters 2011]

QUOTE (nic_23 @ Friday, May 25 2012, 14:37)

i understand its your forum and your rules and we are the guests but would it take a lot of time to add a feature where it says who has been on your profile?

The later versions of IPB now have this feature, but I just don't see why it's needed at the end of the day, and why it's so important to see who has checked your profile out. Even if it was to be installed, what would possibly be gained by seeing that 'said member' viewed your profile?

And this whole signature size debate has been brought up plenty of times, and is only ever settled by a certain member of staff saying no and leaving it at that. Many members are in favour of seeing the size upgraded, and playing the whole 'data transfer cap' card is bollocks, especially on a forum that sees many topics now flooded with videos since the YT tags got added in. If anything, it's these videos that cause more problems then a simple, animated signature would.

[Suction Testicle Man]

QUOTE (Xcommunicated @ Friday, May 25 2012, 19:29)

Zetaboards is out of the question

^ This. I think we've explained the software situation adequately - anyone still suggesting Zetaboards or similar needs to read the topic more carefully. If anyone has any ideas they'd like to see implemented please post a separate topic.