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 Lockerbie bomber dies in Tripoli

 
BRITLAND  
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-18137896

Abdelbaset al-Megrahi, the only person convicted over the 1988 Lockerbie bombing above Scotland which killed 270 people, has died at his home in Libya.

Megrahi, 60, was convicted by a special court in the Netherlands in 2001.

He was freed from Scottish jail in 2009 on compassionate grounds because of cancer, stirring controversy when he outlived doctors' expectations.

UK Prime Minister David Cameron said it was a day to remember the 270 victims of "an appalling terrorist act".

Mr Cameron, who is in Chicago for a Nato summit, said Megrahi should never have been freed, Reuters news agency reports.
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image of Rana Jawad Rana Jawad BBC News, Tripoli

There are just over a dozen cars lining up the street outside Megrahi's house, on the outskirts of central Tripoli.

Chairs are being put up - presumably for guests who will be paying their condolences, although it is still very quiet here.

I spoke earlier today to Megrahi's brother, who said he wished his brother had lived to see the day when his innocence was proven.

Megrahi - and his family - had long maintained that he was not responsible for the Lockerbie bombing.

During Col Gaddafi's rule, many Libyans maintained that Megrahi was innocent whatever the court decided.

I have spoken to a number of Libyans since Col Gaddafi was ousted last year who believe that Megrahi was guilty.

But you still find that many Libyans say that Megrahi did not directly participate in the bombing, that he was used as a scapegoat by the former regime.

So there are mixed views in Libya on this matter.

Scottish First Minister Alex Salmond also said Megrahi's death was an occasion to remember the victims of Lockerbie.

He said Lockerbie was still a live investigation and that Scottish prosecutors had never believed Megrahi was the only person responsible.
Relatives' anger

Megrahi's release sparked the fury of many of the relatives of the victims of the Lockerbie disaster. The US - whose citizens accounted for 189 of the dead - also criticised the move.

But others believed he was not guilty of the bombing.

Dr Jim Swire, whose daughter Flora died at Lockerbie, called Megrahi's death a "very sad event".

"Right up to the end he was determined, for his family's sake... [that] the verdict against him should be overturned," said Dr Swire, who is a member of the Justice for Megrahi group.

Died at home

His brother Abdulhakim said on Sunday that Megrahi's health had deteriorated quickly and he died at home in Tripoli.

He told the AFP news agency that Megrahi died at 13:00 local time (11:00 GMT).

Megrahi's sister told the Libyan Wal news agency that his funeral would take place at Tripoli's main cemetery on Monday, following early afternoon prayers.

Megrahi, a Libyan intelligence officer, always denied any responsibility for the bombing of Pan Am Flight 103 in December 1988.

It remains the deadliest terrorist incident ever to have taken place on British soil.

All 259 people aboard the plane, which was travelling from London to New York, were killed, along with 11 others on the ground.

Investigators tracing the origins of scraps of clothes wrapped around the bomb followed a trail to a shop in Malta which led them, eventually, to Megrahi.

He and another Libyan, Al Amin Khalifa Fhimah, were indicted by the Scottish and US courts in November 1991.

But Libya refused to extradite them. In 1999, after protracted negotiations, Libya handed the two men over for trial, under Scottish law but on neutral ground, the former US airbase at Camp Zeist in the Netherlands.

David Cameron: "Today is a day to remember the 270 people who lost their lives in an appalling terrorist act"

Their trial began in May 2000. Fhimah was acquitted of all charges, but Megrahi was found guilty and sentenced to a minimum of 27 years in prison.

He served the first part of his sentence at the maximum-security prison at Barlinnie, in Glasgow (where i live), but was transferred in 2005 to Greenock prison.

He lost his first appeal against conviction in 2002 but in 2007, his case was referred back to senior Scottish judges. He dropped that second case two days before he was released.

Last August, after the fall of Libyan leader Col Muammar Gaddafi, Megrahi was reported to be "in and out of a coma" at his home in Tripoli.

There have been calls for him to be returned to jail in the UK or tried in the US.

But shortly after they toppled Col Gaddafi, Libyan rebel leaders said they would not extradite Megrahi or any other Libyan.

The BBC's Scotland correspondent James Cook says Scottish and American officials have been to Tripoli, trying to persuade the new Libyan government to grant visas to detectives from Dumfriesshire.

They are still searching for the answers to the questions of who ordered the bombing and who else was involved, our correspondent says, but it is not clear whether the Libyans will co-operate.

However, a spokesman for the interim government in Tripoli, the National Transitional Council (NTC), told Reuters that that Megrahi's death would not end its investigations into Lockerbie.

Last August, after the fall of Libyan leader Col Muammar Gaddafi, Megrahi was reported to be "in and out of a coma" at his home in Tripoli.

There have been calls for him to be returned to jail in the UK or tried in the US.

But shortly after they toppled Col Gaddafi, Libyan rebel leaders said they would not extradite Megrahi or any other Libyan.

The BBC's Scotland correspondent James Cook says Scottish and American officials have been to Tripoli, trying to persuade the new Libyan government to grant visas to detectives from Dumfriesshire.

They are still searching for the answers to the questions of who ordered the bombing and who else was involved, our correspondent says, but it is not clear whether the Libyans will co-operate.

However, a spokesman for the interim government in Tripoli, the National Transitional Council (NTC), told Reuters that that Megrahi's death would not end its investigations into Lockerbie.

"The Libyan government will continue to investigate the crimes committed by the Gaddafi regime using other witnesses," NTC spokesman Mohamed al-Harizy was quoted as saying.

Last September, it emerged that former UK Prime Minister Tony Blair had raised Megrahi's case in talks with Gaddafi in 2008 and 2009 in Libya, shortly before Megrahi was freed.

At the time, Libya was threatening to sever commercial links with Britain if Megrahi was not released.

But Mr Blair's spokesman told Col Gaddafi it was a case for the Scottish authorities and no business deals were discussed.

In his last interview, filmed in December 2011, Megrahi said: "I am an innocent man. I am about to die and I ask now to be left in peace with my family."

Megrahi had rarely been seen since his return to Tripoli, but he was spotted on Libyan television at what appeared to be a pro-government rally in July 2011.


They are still searching for the answers to the questions of who ordered the bombing and who else was involved, our correspondent says, but it is not clear whether the Libyans will co-operate.

However, a spokesman for the interim government in Tripoli, the National Transitional Council (NTC), told Reuters that that Megrahi's death would not end its investigations into Lockerbie.


So do you think he should of been released agreeing with the Scottish Government or should he'd died in jail agreeing with USA & UK Government (David Cameron & Conservitive Government)
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Posted: Monday, May 21 2012, 18:51
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Not a big deal. The guy was released so that the Prison/Government would be less likely to get blamed (by the zealots) for his death.
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QUOTE (zoo3891 @ Monday, May 21 2012, 21:21)
Did you copy and paste this article? If you did, you aren't very good at it.

meh, its like my 3/4 time or something, i dont expect you to read all of it even when theres a link to the real article
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QUOTE (lil weasel @ Monday, May 21 2012, 18:51)
Not a big deal. The guy was released so that the Prison/Government would be less likely to get blamed (by the zealots) for his death.

How would they be blamed for his death? He was terminally ill with cancer, it's not like they made him go through an x-ray machine everyday. The reason officially was humanitarian seeing as how they thought he'd be dead within months, so they were going to allow him to be with his family. Of course the whole thing was a PR disaster, especially when he was welcomed back as a hero.

There's a lot of debate over the degree to which he actually was involved in the plot, or even whether he had any involvement at all. I think the fact they let him go is perhaps a sign of the governments thoughts regarding the degree to how much he was actually involved in it, although I'd be surprised if the commercial trade aspect didn't play at least a part.

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When dealing with Religious or Political zealots, they may claim anything when a person of their interest dies in custody.
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QUOTE (BRITLAND @ Monday, May 21 2012, 11:03)
Abdelbaset al-Megrahi ... has died

oh.

good.
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QUOTE (GTA_stu @ Tuesday, May 22 2012, 19:50)
QUOTE (lil weasel @ Monday, May 21 2012, 18:51)
Not a big deal. The guy was released so that the Prison/Government would be less likely to get blamed (by the zealots) for his death.

How would they be blamed for his death? He was terminally ill with cancer, it's not like they made him go through an x-ray machine everyday. The reason officially was humanitarian seeing as how they thought he'd be dead within months, so they were going to allow him to be with his family.

No thanks in part to Karol Sikora, of whom I am very familiar. It was Sikora who was hired by the Libyan government as one of a group of three doctors to present a medical evaluation of al-Magrahi, and who gave the original "three months to live" statement. The Scottish government have maintained that her professional opinion wasn't used in their case to release him on compassionate grounds; she maintains that three months was a realistic estimate, but he could have lived for as long as ten years. I'm suspicious of both statements; if her professional opinion was ignored, then why did the Scottish government's statements exactly match her own? And if she was giving a fair, realistic and honest evaluation of his health, then why was she employed directly by the Libyan government to do so? A rather unsavoury replication of the Saif Gaddafi/LSE debacle, methinks.
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Terrorist or not, let him have his last few years outside of prison, i think it's a fair call.
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QUOTE (finn4life @ Tuesday, May 22 2012, 16:00)
Terrorist or not, let him have his last few years outside of prison, i think it's a fair call.

yeah, just like he gave those people on the plane a "fair call" dozingoff.gif

he should have been executed.
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QUOTE (El_Diablo @ Wednesday, May 23 2012, 00:19)
QUOTE (finn4life @ Tuesday, May 22 2012, 16:00)
Terrorist or not, let him have his last few years outside of prison, i think it's a fair call.

yeah, just like he gave those people on the plane a "fair call" dozingoff.gif

he should have been executed.

Yeah he killed well over 200 people including little kids icon13.gif

He deserved to die alone in prison or executed.
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He should never have been let out, the scenes of celebration when he got off the plane and was given a heros welcome in Lybia was a disgrace!
I'm sure there was some other reason Scotland let him go apart from the cancer, maybe it was like a conspiracy theory, I cant remember now.
None of this should have happened as he should have been executed the second he was found guilty.
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Releasing him was simply in line with the policy in this country. They understood that he was terminally ill, and so they released him. It wasn't special treatment. I'm sure they didn't expect that he'd live as long as he did though. It makes no sense to keep terminally ill prisoners.

Regarding the conspiracies of a connection between his release and Libyan oil? If that's true then I'm afraid it's just one of the ugly realities of living in a nation such as the UK or any other major capitalist country. Personally I don't believe that was a factor in his release though. Kenny KacAskill simply dealt with the issue based on the facts that were presented to him. I'm glad that I live in a country where controversy does not influence how the law is carried out. I'm sure he winced at the hero's welcome Megrahi received upon his return to Libya though.

Apparently the Scottish government still hold that Megrahi didn't act alone. The investigation into the bombings are still open.

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Good riddance that piece of sh*t! No way should he off got to live free for his final years!
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QUOTE (John The Grudge @ Wednesday, May 23 2012, 01:07)
It makes no sense to keep terminally ill prisoners.

I agree... he should have just been executed from the get-go tounge2.gif
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QUOTE (El_Diablo @ Wednesday, May 23 2012, 10:15)
QUOTE (John The Grudge @ Wednesday, May 23 2012, 01:07)
It makes no sense to keep terminally ill prisoners.

I agree... he should have just been executed from the get-go tounge2.gif

Damn Right!!!! angry.gif
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Related to the topic in a way but why do we have to grant human rights to inhumane people ?

I mean surly we should have just thrown him in a cell and just let him stave to death ? Why do you we have to grant terrorists even the most basic of human rights ? Even execution I consider to decent for them as they just die. I honestly think any terrorist proven guilty should face the most horrific ordeal ever, make them regret everything they have done (As hard as that is considering there usually doing it in the name of religion). I don't care if its torture, I want every terrorist to sh*t themselves once there caught, to know there going to go through an ordeal that is on par with hell (or whatever the equivalent of hell is in there culture)

When I saw him being celebrated on his return I felt disgusted.

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QUOTE (DeeperRed @ Wednesday, May 23 2012, 10:49)
Related to the topic in a way but why do we have to grant human rights to inhumane people ?

I mean surly we should have just thrown him in a cell and just let him stave to death ? Why do you we have to grant terrorists even the most basic of human rights ? Even execution I consider to decent for them as they just die. I honestly think any terrorist proven guilty should face the most horrific ordeal ever, make them regret everything they have done (As hard as that is considering there usually doing it in the name of religion). I don't care if its torture, I want every terrorist to sh*t themselves once there caught, to know there going to go through an ordeal that is on par with hell (or whatever the equivalent of hell is in there culture)

When I saw him being celebrated on his return I felt disgusted.

You're talking about revenge. Revenge and the law don't belong in the same sentence. The law was done. It may not have satisfied anybody's understandable desire for revenge but it was done to the letter. Kenny MacAskill simply elected not to make an exception in this case. He did his job. Controversy and political favor were not factors.
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