[Robinski]

QUOTE (lil weasel @ Tuesday, Aug 7 2012, 14:43)

For the consideration of the PC's here: Negro is to black as Blanco is to white, so is an American Negro called a Gringo in Mexico? ('Gringo' is a corruption of the title of a song "Green Grow the Lilacs" which was alledged to have been sung to senoritas by American suiters.)

That depends, are you going to use it as part of your ongoing, futile attempt to justify your use of the word "negro" as acceptable?

[lil weasel]

You can make any 'word' unacceptable to small minds if you complain enough.
However, As long as my checks to the “United Negro College Fund” are accepted
and the Catholic Negro-American Mission Board, it is still acceptable to the broader minds.
And what about the:
The National Council of Negro Women
TEXAS COUNCIL OF NEGRO ORGANIZATIONS
Council of Affiliated Negro Organizations Inc
Texas Negro Peace Officers Association
Chicago Council of Negro Organizations.

This post has been edited by lil weasel on Tuesday, Aug 7 2012, 16:23

[ryuclan]

QUOTE (lil weasel @ Tuesday, Aug 7 2012, 16:14)

You can make any 'word' unacceptable to small minds if you complain enough. However, As long as my checks to the “United Negro College Fund” are accepted and the Catholic Negro-American Mission Board, it is still acceptable to the broader minds. And what about the: The National Council of Negro Women TEXAS COUNCIL OF NEGRO ORGANIZATIONS Council of Affiliated Negro Organizations Inc Texas Negro Peace Officers Association Chicago Council of Negro Organizations.

Although i have no qualms with the word i feel your constant use of it not only here but every place you post in this forum a bit condescending.

[Dollarhide]

QUOTE (ryuclan @ Tuesday, Aug 7 2012, 14:19)

Calling it eeverse racism pretty much states that only white people can be racist. Elitist f*cks.

ROFL! I like that xD

[JOSEPH X]

I remember introducing my black friend to a then up-and-coming act, who I though were breaking new ground in rap music called "ni**ers With Attitude"

His reaction, "Uh? You only like 'em cus you get to say the word ni**ers"

True dat.

[Fireman]

lol people still make a big deal out of racism?

I thought this was 2012.

We're gonna call people we hate names, doesn't really matter what words are used, it comes down to the same thing (only losers who can't/are to scared insult back pull the racism card.

[sivispacem]

QUOTE (lil weasel @ Tuesday, Aug 7 2012, 17:14)

You can make any 'word' unacceptable to small minds if you complain enough.

It's fallen from common usage and is considered offensive in many places. The historic names of organisations are just that- historic. And whilst I wouldn't go as far as to say that it is necessarily directly and unequivocally derogatory, I can say quite categorically that there are much preferred terms in modern language. I think you'd struggle to find a black US citizen under the age of perhaps 70 who prefers "negro" to just plain old "black".

If I'm honest, it also makes you sound like a bit of a tit.

[finn4life]

QUOTE (ryuclan @ Wednesday, Aug 8 2012, 01:19)

Calling it eeverse racism pretty much states that only white people can be racist. Elitist f*cks.

It's just an easy way to refer to it as most people perceive racism as discrimination against blacks, which is the majority of racism.

It's easier than saying "Have you ever experienced discrimination for being white from a black person".

Don't remember if i posted here, so yes i have experienced it from some Lebanese on a few occasions. "You're a sh*t c*nt white" "You whites think you're so much better".
Nope, i just don't want to get into a fight and beat the sh*t out of you for no reason other than the fact you want to look tough in front of your mates.

Interesting how there are issues here in Australia with Lebanese and racism because there isn't really much of a history of racism with Lebanese here, yet a large number of Lebanese seem to think there is a problem...and maybe there is, call me racist but i have gotten into more fights or more close calls with Lebanese than anyone else, for some reason they often think they have something to prove, more so than any other ethnic groups in the country in my experience.

[goin-god]

QUOTE (finn4life @ Tuesday, Aug 7 2012, 18:52)

QUOTE (ryuclan @ Wednesday, Aug 8 2012, 01:19) Calling it eeverse racism pretty much states that only white people can be racist. Elitist f*cks. It's just an easy way to refer to it as most people perceive racism as discrimination against blacks, which is the majority of racism.

That's wrong. And creating a new term isn't much better.

[KaRzY6]

QUOTE (finn4life @ Wednesday, Aug 8 2012, 08:52)

QUOTE (ryuclan @ Wednesday, Aug 8 2012, 01:19) Calling it eeverse racism pretty much states that only white people can be racist. Elitist f*cks. It's just an easy way to refer to it as most people perceive racism as discrimination against blacks, which is the majority of racism. It's easier than saying "Have you ever experienced discrimination for being white from a black person". Don't remember if i posted here, so yes i have experienced it from some Lebanese on a few occasions. "You're a sh*t c*nt white" "You whites think you're so much better". Nope, i just don't want to get into a fight and beat the sh*t out of you for no reason other than the fact you want to look tough in front of your mates. Interesting how there are issues here in Australia with Lebanese and racism because there isn't really much of a history of racism with Lebanese here, yet a large number of Lebanese seem to think there is a problem...and maybe there is, call me racist but i have gotten into more fights or more close calls with Lebanese than anyone else, for some reason they often think they have something to prove, more so than any other ethnic groups in the country in my experience.

Yeah, I don't live in Melbourne but a lot of my friends have have seen big Lebanese gangs down there. They described them as VERY racist against anyone not their race.

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It's just an easy way to refer to it as most people perceive racism as discrimination against blacks, which is the majority of racism.

Don't be so sure.

[finn4life]

QUOTE (goin-god @ Wednesday, Aug 8 2012, 08:54)

QUOTE (finn4life @ Tuesday, Aug 7 2012, 18:52) QUOTE (ryuclan @ Wednesday, Aug 8 2012, 01:19) Calling it eeverse racism pretty much states that only white people can be racist. Elitist f*cks. It's just an easy way to refer to it as most people perceive racism as discrimination against blacks, which is the majority of racism. That's wrong. And creating a new term isn't much better.

Well if i heard from a mate, "Know this racist prick at work" i would probably assume he was white and that he was racist towards people with dark skin.

This topic is about racism against whites right? Well let us call it racism against whites if it bothers you so much (and i don't understand why).

Perhaps i am the only person in the whole entire world who thinks this way.

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QUOTE (me) It's just an easy way to refer to it as most people perceive racism as discrimination against blacks, which is the majority of racism. Don't be so sure.

I am quite sure, at least racism with a history, why is it here in Australia there are ongoing issues with Aboriginals and Racism? Even the prime minister apologised officially a few years ago to the Aboriginals. If it was such a problem with white people experiencing racism why don't i and other whites get an apology?

Wasn't Black Slavery a gigantic issue in America? Wasn't racism towards blacks a huge issue?

Don't try and tell me that the majority of racism is towards whites, because it isn't, and we definitely have the better end of the stick, the racism towards whites is nowhere near as extreme.

This post has been edited by finn4life on Wednesday, Aug 8 2012, 08:17

[Robinski]

QUOTE (finn4life @ Wednesday, Aug 8 2012, 08:14)

Well let us call it racism against whites if it bothers you so much (and i don't understand why).

You don't see the problem inherent in having one special type of racism reserved for whites and one type for everyone else?

[finn4life]

QUOTE (Robinski @ Wednesday, Aug 8 2012, 19:24)

QUOTE (finn4life @ Wednesday, Aug 8 2012, 08:14) Well let us call it racism against whites if it bothers you so much (and i don't understand why). You don't see the problem inherent in having one special type of racism reserved for whites and one type for everyone else?

If it avoids confusion no i don't.
But i can see more sensitive people having an issue with it so i will avoid the term, not that i used it in the first place.

[dingleman]

Reverse racism?

So what if someone discriminated chinese people, or lebanese people, or mexican people on the basis of their ethnicity? What the hell do we call it?

[DarrinPA]

QUOTE (finn4life @ Wednesday, Aug 8 2012, 03:14)

Don't try and tell me that the majority of racism is towards whites, because it isn't, and we definitely have the better end of the stick, the racism towards whites is nowhere near as extreme.

Extreme or not depends on each individual's life. Maybe you have never faced it, but I and many others certaintly have.

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Wasn't Black Slavery a gigantic issue in America? Wasn't racism towards blacks a huge issue?

I hope this doesn't sound racist, but atleast they didn't try to kill all the African Americans off like they tried with the Native Americans. And lets not forget that women face adveristies on the same level as those who have faced racism. Racism has existed in many different forms, long before America [and MANY other countries] used slavery.

[finn4life]

QUOTE (DarrinPA @ Wednesday, Aug 8 2012, 20:12)

QUOTE (finn4life @ Wednesday, Aug 8 2012, 03:14) Don't try and tell me that the majority of racism is towards whites, because it isn't, and we definitely have the better end of the stick, the racism towards whites is nowhere near as extreme. Extreme or not depends on each individual's life. Maybe you have never faced it, but I and many others certaintly have. QUOTE Wasn't Black Slavery a gigantic issue in America? Wasn't racism towards blacks a huge issue? I hope this doesn't sound racist, but atleast they didn't try to kill all the African Americans off like they tried with the Native Americans. And lets not forget that women face adveristies on the same level as those who have faced racism. Racism has existed in many different forms, long before America [and MANY other countries] used slavery.

True points you make.
I have a slightly altered view-point now.
Thank-you.

This post has been edited by finn4life on Wednesday, Aug 8 2012, 11:40

[ryuclan]

QUOTE (finn4life @ Wednesday, Aug 8 2012, 08:41)

QUOTE (Robinski @ Wednesday, Aug 8 2012, 19:24) QUOTE (finn4life @ Wednesday, Aug 8 2012, 08:14) Well let us call it racism against whites if it bothers you so much (and i don't understand why). You don't see the problem inherent in having one special type of racism reserved for whites and one type for everyone else? If it avoids confusion no i don't. But i can see more sensitive people having an issue with it so i will avoid the term, not that i used it in the first place.

It has nothing to do with sensitivity. If you're racist you're racist. The term reverse racism is a ridiculous one as the way its being used is incorrect.

[goin-god]

QUOTE (finn4life @ Wednesday, Aug 8 2012, 05:14)

QUOTE (goin-god @ Wednesday, Aug 8 2012, 08:54) QUOTE (finn4life @ Tuesday, Aug 7 2012, 18:52) QUOTE (ryuclan @ Wednesday, Aug 8 2012, 01:19) Calling it eeverse racism pretty much states that only white people can be racist. Elitist f*cks. It's just an easy way to refer to it as most people perceive racism as discrimination against blacks, which is the majority of racism. That's wrong. And creating a new term isn't much better. Well if i heard from a mate, "Know this racist prick at work" i would probably assume he was white and that he was racist towards people with dark skin.

I certainly don't. Because I know the true meaning of the word racist. And I don't jump in conclusions.
And like ryuclan said, it has nothing to do with sensitivity.

[Ferocious Banger]

The supposedly "forward castes" of India experience the same thing daily.I hate the caste system!

[finn4life]

QUOTE (goin-god @ Thursday, Aug 9 2012, 03:29)

QUOTE (finn4life @ Wednesday, Aug 8 2012, 05:14) QUOTE (goin-god @ Wednesday, Aug 8 2012, 08:54) QUOTE (finn4life @ Tuesday, Aug 7 2012, 18:52) QUOTE (ryuclan @ Wednesday, Aug 8 2012, 01:19) Calling it eeverse racism pretty much states that only white people can be racist. Elitist f*cks. It's just an easy way to refer to it as most people perceive racism as discrimination against blacks, which is the majority of racism. That's wrong. And creating a new term isn't much better. Well if i heard from a mate, "Know this racist prick at work" i would probably assume he was white and that he was racist towards people with dark skin. I certainly don't. Because I know the true meaning of the word racist. And I don't jump in conclusions. And like ryuclan said, it has nothing to do with sensitivity.

Well thanks to DarrinPA who actually explained what was wrong with the term that the OP used, rather than just saying it is wrong.

Well good for you not jumping to conclusions , i can't help but make assumptions all the time until my assumption is proven wrong, and yes i have heard the saying "Never make assumptions" but it can't be helped, i always judge, i always jump to conclusions (often more than one) because i can't help but try figure out what is coming next. Clearly we think differently.

Most racism i encounter is towards people of non-European descent, it may be different in other parts of the world or other social circles but not it my area/social circles so i think it fair to make the assumption that when i hear someone calling someone else racist within my circle, they were probably referring to someone discriminating against people of non-European decent.

This post has been edited by finn4life on Thursday, Aug 9 2012, 07:43