[Typhus]

QUOTE (CJ killed Ryder @ Wednesday, May 16 2012, 18:48)

QUOTE (Typhus @ Wednesday, May 16 2012, 18:45) At the end of GTA IV, Niko Bellic did not find peace. No matter what decision you made, he was left nothing but a bitter, jaded husk of a man. He had nothing to live for and felt no enthusiasm for anything. He was worthless, without being able to kill people, he was worthless. So there's no chance you'd find ol' Niko settling down and raising a family. He just couldn't do it. You know what I want? I want to kill him. I want closure. Save for Vic Vance, the fate of every protagonist has been up in the air. But what if we had to kill him, he was a destitute, drunken wreck sitting in a bar. Having a definitive end for such a beloved character would be amazing, a real curve ball. And this place would explode when the first few people got to that mission. What do you think? Maybe depending on the player's choice.

Too much choice is a bad thing. I would much rather have some certainty over his fate.
Consider, if you will, just how many times fans have speculated about Tommy Vercetti returning at some point. They were so desperate they even believed the man on the balcony in the V trailer was Vercetti himself.
The reason is that his story was never concluded, you go on a journey with these characters, you see their highs and lows and I think it's understandable to want a real conclusion.

With Bellic, I always got the impression that he was screwed. Just think about how many people he killed, think about the fact that he decapitated the heirarchy of both a Mafia family and a highly sophisticated Russian mob. He made very powerful enemies and killing one man does not change the fact that they will always be after him.

I think death is the only real certainty for him.
Of course, his manner of death could be different to the one I've proposed, but that hardly seems to matter. His story was dramatic, exciting and, at times, even tragic. It's end should reflect this.

[Official General]

QUOTE (CJ killed Ryder @ Wednesday, May 16 2012, 16:10)

QUOTE (Official General @ Wednesday, May 16 2012, 15:08) I cannot see what business Niko would have out in Lost Santos or the West Coast anyway. He has no known family, friends or associates out there, so he has no reason to be there. Maybe he goes to Los Santos because he's "looking for someone.."

No

Maybe he's just going for a holiday for some sun, sea, sand and sexy ladies on rollerblades. A holiday is the only reason I can think of as to why Niko would go to LS or the West Coast. Other than that, he has no reason to be there.

He' has found that 'somebody' already in GTA IV. Bottom line is I do not want to see or hear of Niko in GTA V. A new game, a new day and a new dawn.

This post has been edited by Official General on Wednesday, May 16 2012, 19:15

[ACR]

I would love to see Niko in GTAV, he is my favorite GTA character, but only in few missions where protagonist can work with him.
But i doubt that Niko could be in LS, because there is no reason to be there, except that ticket which was simply easter egg in my opinion.
Niko did have reason to live and that's living to kill others, once when he talk to Roman he said that he is only good at killing and i think that is the only thing keeping him alive, doing only thing he knows.
''When it's your time to die Grim Reaper known as Niko Bellic is here to deliver death blow''
As for other that wish to kill Niko in feature mission in GTAV, f*ck you, seriously. Niko would probably kill protagonist if he try to kill him .

[Typhus]

QUOTE (ACR @ Wednesday, May 16 2012, 19:16)

As for other that wish to kill Niko in feature mission in GTAV, f*ck you, seriously. Niko would probably kill protagonist if he try to kill him .

But he had grown tired of the killing, despondent about his life. He loathed the man he had became yet understood he was incapable of being anything else.
Throughout IV, Niko's big motivation is to find Darko and simply discover why his unit was betrayed. When he finds out that his big nemesis is a junkie loser, there's no gratification. Even if you kill him, he just feels nothing.
Every single thing that keeps him alive is deconstructed in Grand theft Auto IV. I don't think it's outside the realm of possibility that Niko has lost the will to live.

As for why he'd be in Los Santos? Easy. Like I said, he could never settle down. People would be looking for him for the rest of his life, his past would always come back to haunt him. He has something of the nomad about him.

[Official General]

QUOTE (Typhus @ Wednesday, May 16 2012, 19:26)

QUOTE (ACR @ Wednesday, May 16 2012, 19:16) As for other that wish to kill Niko in feature mission in GTAV, f*ck you, seriously. Niko would probably kill protagonist if he try to kill him . But he had grown tired of the killing, despondent about his life. He loathed the man he had became yet understood he was incapable of being anything else. Throughout IV, Niko's big motivation is to find Darko and simply discover why his unit was betrayed. When he finds out that his big nemesis is a junkie loser, there's no gratification. Even if you kill him, he just feels nothing. Every single thing that keeps him alive is deconstructed in Grand theft Auto IV. I don't think it's outside the realm of possibility that Niko has lost the will to live. As for why he'd be in Los Santos? Easy. Like I said, he could never settle down. People would be looking for him for the rest of his life, his past would always come back to haunt him. He has something of the nomad about him.

@ Typhus

I hear you, and your theories sound quite interesting, but still truth be told, I just don't want to see Niko anymore. Niko was an ok protagonist, I kinda liked him and his story was deep, and I enjoyed it. But as of now, I am no longer interested in the rest of his life story, his trials and tribulations or his struggles and pains. I really don't care for his aftermath, whether he's dead or alive, or somewhere in outer space. For me, Niko's chapter and time has passed.

It's time to start totally fresh and anew, a new location and new people.

[ACR]

QUOTE (Typhus @ Wednesday, May 16 2012, 19:26)

QUOTE (ACR @ Wednesday, May 16 2012, 19:16) As for other that wish to kill Niko in feature mission in GTAV, f*ck you, seriously. Niko would probably kill protagonist if he try to kill him . But he had grown tired of the killing, despondent about his life. He loathed the man he had became yet understood he was incapable of being anything else. Throughout IV, Niko's big motivation is to find Darko and simply discover why his unit was betrayed. When he finds out that his big nemesis is a junkie loser, there's no gratification. Even if you kill him, he just feels nothing. Every single thing that keeps him alive is deconstructed in Grand theft Auto IV. I don't think it's outside the realm of possibility that Niko has lost the will to live. As for why he'd be in Los Santos? Easy. Like I said, he could never settle down. People would be looking for him for the rest of his life, his past would always come back to haunt him. He has something of the nomad about him.

Niko felt regret a lot of time about killing people, but he was always coming back for more, he was blackmailed by Frencis, but yet he wanted more money. He worked with Elizabeta and Packie with without purpose of finding that special someone, but for money, so you could at least say that he is an earner, in only way he knows.
Yes, he has little motivation to live and he knows after all he had done someone will come after him, but he have a lot of money and his gambling junkie brother and some friends
(i consider death of Kate as cannon ending), why would he want to die?
I think Niko deserves some happiness and peace after all. If R* decide to kill him in GTAV, it would be hard for me accept his death, because i don't consider him a character
from the game, but real person who has been through all kind of bullsh*t in his life, damn R* really did great job .

[Typhus]

Niko deserves the same kind of mercy he dished out to so many other people. He's a cockroach, a louse. He knows, he knows what he's doing is wrong yet keeps doing it out of boredom. As you said, he has all these friends, a family that loves him, yet he repeatedly risks all of that. He's a mass murderer posing as a moralist.
At least a lot of the other protagonists could be honest with themselves, Niko is the worst, most insufferable hypocrite.
He kills a mans brother and then has the gall to stand with the family at a funeral. He kills a womans husband and has the audacity to shoot the breeze with her as if he's squeaky clean. He's a man who probably committed numerous atrocities - war crimes - yet still feels qualified to lecture his cousin on the right way to live.

Death's about the only thing he deserves.

This post has been edited by Typhus on Wednesday, May 16 2012, 19:59

[ACR]

QUOTE (Typhus @ Wednesday, May 16 2012, 19:50)

Niko deserves the same kind of mercy he dished out to so many other people. He's a cockroach, a louse. He knows, he knows what he's doing is wrong yet keeps doing it out of boredom. As you said, he has all these friends, a family that loves him, yet he repeatedly risks all of that. He's a mass murderer posing as a moralist. At least a lot of the other protagonists could be honest with themselves, Niko is the worst, most insufferable hypocrite. He kills a mans brother and then has the gall to stand with the family at a funeral. He kills a womans husband and has the audacity to shoot the breeze with her as if he's squeaky clean. He's a man who probably committed numerous atrocities - war crimes - yet still feels qualified to lecture his cousin on the right way to live. Death's about the only thing he deserves.

Well Niko was killing people that were scum on earth so he is not worse than them. I don't think he did war crimes, he was young and newbie soldier, but he and his friends got betrayed and ruthlessly killed, so that made impact on him not to worry about another human life. The only thing he did wrong was smuggling innocent people.
And that dirty pig Francis deserved death, hell even his own family didn't cared about him being dead or alive.
And how is Niko worse than CJ who killed Jizzy B for no reason or Claude who killed Kenji for money, even though he was his employer first or Tommy who killed Mrs. Dawson and made it look like accident?
But that's what are GTA protagonists, killers, so Niko doesn't deserve death more than CJ, Tommy or Claude

[mortal_soldier]

Definitely not. Nikos story, his motives and his goals were well established in GTAIV. He was concerned by his actions during GTAIV final missions, and I am pretty sure his story is done. What possible motive could he have to go to the west coast. None.

This very same question is brought up whenever a new GTA title is announced.....everyone always loves the latest protagonist, so why don't you all just give the new guy a chance, huh? I'm pretty sure everyone will want him to star in GTA6 whenever it is announced in the future.

Trust the developers, they have not failed us thus far.

[CJ killed Ryder]

QUOTE (Typhus @ Wednesday, May 16 2012, 18:57)

QUOTE (CJ killed Ryder @ Wednesday, May 16 2012, 18:48) QUOTE (Typhus @ Wednesday, May 16 2012, 18:45) At the end of GTA IV, Niko Bellic did not find peace. No matter what decision you made, he was left nothing but a bitter, jaded husk of a man. He had nothing to live for and felt no enthusiasm for anything. He was worthless, without being able to kill people, he was worthless. So there's no chance you'd find ol' Niko settling down and raising a family. He just couldn't do it. You know what I want? I want to kill him. I want closure. Save for Vic Vance, the fate of every protagonist has been up in the air. But what if we had to kill him, he was a destitute, drunken wreck sitting in a bar. Having a definitive end for such a beloved character would be amazing, a real curve ball. And this place would explode when the first few people got to that mission. What do you think? Maybe depending on the player's choice. Too much choice is a bad thing. I would much rather have some certainty over his fate. Consider, if you will, just how many times fans have speculated about Tommy Vercetti returning at some point. They were so desperate they even believed the man on the balcony in the V trailer was Vercetti himself. The reason is that his story was never concluded, you go on a journey with these characters, you see their highs and lows and I think it's understandable to want a real conclusion. With Bellic, I always got the impression that he was screwed. Just think about how many people he killed, think about the fact that he decapitated the heirarchy of both a Mafia family and a highly sophisticated Russian mob. He made very powerful enemies and killing one man does not change the fact that they will always be after him. I think death is the only real certainty for him. Of course, his manner of death could be different to the one I've proposed, but that hardly seems to matter. His story was dramatic, exciting and, at times, even tragic. It's end should reflect this.

Niko ending up getting killed or arrested would be something realistic, due to the lifestile he is living.

[CJ killed Ryder]

QUOTE (Official General @ Wednesday, May 16 2012, 19:12)

QUOTE (CJ killed Ryder @ Wednesday, May 16 2012, 16:10) QUOTE (Official General @ Wednesday, May 16 2012, 15:08) I cannot see what business Niko would have out in Lost Santos or the West Coast anyway. He has no known family, friends or associates out there, so he has no reason to be there. Maybe he goes to Los Santos because he's "looking for someone.." No Maybe he's just going for a holiday for some sun, sea, sand and sexy ladies on rollerblades. A holiday is the only reason I can think of as to why Niko would go to LS or the West Coast. Other than that, he has no reason to be there. He' has found that 'somebody' already in GTA IV. Bottom line is I do not want to see or hear of Niko in GTA V. A new game, a new day and a new dawn.

I mean: maybe another someone. Maybe, for example, Packie gets killed during the events in GTA V, and Niko travels from the east coast to the west coast looking for revenge. Niko is a person who likes revenge.

Niko is always looking for another someone. After the death of Darko, he is looking for Dimitri, and after the death of Dimitri, he is looking for Pegorino.

This post has been edited by CJ killed Ryder on Wednesday, May 16 2012, 21:26

[Official General]

QUOTE (CJ killed Ryder @ Wednesday, May 16 2012, 21:22)

QUOTE (Official General @ Wednesday, May 16 2012, 19:12) QUOTE (CJ killed Ryder @ Wednesday, May 16 2012, 16:10) QUOTE (Official General @ Wednesday, May 16 2012, 15:08) I cannot see what business Niko would have out in Lost Santos or the West Coast anyway. He has no known family, friends or associates out there, so he has no reason to be there. Maybe he goes to Los Santos because he's "looking for someone.." No Maybe he's just going for a holiday for some sun, sea, sand and sexy ladies on rollerblades. A holiday is the only reason I can think of as to why Niko would go to LS or the West Coast. Other than that, he has no reason to be there. He' has found that 'somebody' already in GTA IV. Bottom line is I do not want to see or hear of Niko in GTA V. A new game, a new day and a new dawn. I mean: maybe another someone. Maybe, for example, Packie gets killed during the events in GTA V, and Niko travels from the east coast to the west coast looking for revenge. Niko is a person who likes revenge. Niko is always looking for another someone. After the death of Darko, he is looking for Dimitri, and after the death of Dimitri, he is looking for Pegorino.

No, just no. Not likely. Not plausible. Not happening.

Niko's chapter was good while it lasted, but it is finished, and it should stay that way. Give up the ghost bro.

This post has been edited by Official General on Wednesday, May 16 2012, 21:48

[CJ killed Ryder]

QUOTE (Official General @ Wednesday, May 16 2012, 21:46)

QUOTE (CJ killed Ryder @ Wednesday, May 16 2012, 21:22) QUOTE (Official General @ Wednesday, May 16 2012, 19:12) QUOTE (CJ killed Ryder @ Wednesday, May 16 2012, 16:10) QUOTE (Official General @ Wednesday, May 16 2012, 15:08) I cannot see what business Niko would have out in Lost Santos or the West Coast anyway. He has no known family, friends or associates out there, so he has no reason to be there. Maybe he goes to Los Santos because he's "looking for someone.." No Maybe he's just going for a holiday for some sun, sea, sand and sexy ladies on rollerblades. A holiday is the only reason I can think of as to why Niko would go to LS or the West Coast. Other than that, he has no reason to be there. He' has found that 'somebody' already in GTA IV. Bottom line is I do not want to see or hear of Niko in GTA V. A new game, a new day and a new dawn. I mean: maybe another someone. Maybe, for example, Packie gets killed during the events in GTA V, and Niko travels from the east coast to the west coast looking for revenge. Niko is a person who likes revenge. Niko is always looking for another someone. After the death of Darko, he is looking for Dimitri, and after the death of Dimitri, he is looking for Pegorino. No, just no. Not likely. Not plausible. Not happening. Niko's chapter was good while it lasted, but it is finished, and it should stay that way. Give up the ghost bro.

Well, after GTA V they could make a GTA IV prequel, about Niko's life during the war, with slogan "Kill people, sell people, smuggle people!!!"

[Official General]

QUOTE (CJ killed Ryder @ Wednesday, May 16 2012, 22:00)

QUOTE (Official General @ Wednesday, May 16 2012, 21:46) QUOTE (CJ killed Ryder @ Wednesday, May 16 2012, 21:22) QUOTE (Official General @ Wednesday, May 16 2012, 19:12) QUOTE (CJ killed Ryder @ Wednesday, May 16 2012, 16:10) QUOTE (Official General @ Wednesday, May 16 2012, 15:08) I cannot see what business Niko would have out in Lost Santos or the West Coast anyway. He has no known family, friends or associates out there, so he has no reason to be there. Maybe he goes to Los Santos because he's "looking for someone.." No Maybe he's just going for a holiday for some sun, sea, sand and sexy ladies on rollerblades. A holiday is the only reason I can think of as to why Niko would go to LS or the West Coast. Other than that, he has no reason to be there. He' has found that 'somebody' already in GTA IV. Bottom line is I do not want to see or hear of Niko in GTA V. A new game, a new day and a new dawn. I mean: maybe another someone. Maybe, for example, Packie gets killed during the events in GTA V, and Niko travels from the east coast to the west coast looking for revenge. Niko is a person who likes revenge. Niko is always looking for another someone. After the death of Darko, he is looking for Dimitri, and after the death of Dimitri, he is looking for Pegorino. No, just no. Not likely. Not plausible. Not happening. Niko's chapter was good while it lasted, but it is finished, and it should stay that way. Give up the ghost bro. Well, after GTA V they could make a GTA IV prequel, about Niko's life during the war, with slogan "Kill people, sell people, smuggle people!!!"

In the realm of your dreams and wishes, yes most certainly.

In reality and in the real world, no.

[DeafMetal]

I'd like to see something with him similar to what they did with Claude in GTA San Andreas. Probably won't happen, though, considering that his voice actor was being an assbag.

[WILLAL212]

QUOTE (rodneythesavior @ Tuesday, May 15 2012, 19:55)

QUOTE (Jack. @ Tuesday, May 15 2012, 11:47) They might be able to change the voice actor. What was the very first argument when people thought that the Balcony Guy was Tommy Vercetti? "It's not Ray Liotta!" Besides, Rockstar hasn't done that before and I doubt they would start now. @Avenged7x - Nah, I doubt it.

Although I doubt they would do it with such a famous and beloved charscter, they fid it yo toni and vic from the portable gtas

[Honest Bill]

I'd kinda like to kill him actually; It would be quite cathartic.