[dansgas1000]

I am going to buy a new PC, but i need some questions answered...

1) Will the GeForce GTX 560Ti 1GB Be enough to run GTA IV max settings at what FPS?
2) How much better is the 2GB 560Ti than the 1GB version.
3) Does an EVGA GTX 560Ti any better/worse than the Asus version.
4) Is the i5 2500k (Quad-Core) Overclocked at 4.5GHz enough to run GTA IV max settings?
5) Is 4GB RAM enough for Windows 7 or should i get 8GB?
6) With i5 2500k Overclocked 4.5GHz + GTX 560Ti 1GB Frame rate for maxed out settings?
7) With i5 2500k Overclocked 4.5GHz + GTX 560Ti 1GB Frame rate for maxed out ENB Settings?
8) With i5 2500k Overclocked 4.5GHz + GTX 560Ti 1GB Frame rate for maxed out GTA SA settings?
9) With i5 2500k Overclocked 4.5GHz + GTX 560Ti 1GB Frame rate for maxed out for ICEnhancer?

More questions may come

This post has been edited by dansgas1000 on Sunday, May 13 2012, 14:04

[Exxon]

My guesses:

1. Probably Very High to Max at atleast 30 or higher must be reachable.

2. Just about nothing, it's only better in games which use more than 1 GB of VRAM, and there aren't that many games that do so.

3. I don't think it would, it'll probably only run a little hotter or less hot than the other.

4. Probably yes, but if you keep the sliders at 50 and the shadow density off it'll run very smooth

5. 8 GB is actually a little overkill, but to my opinion it's useful for the future even though 3 GB RAM will be enough for quite some time.

6/7/8/9. That depends on if you're lucky, some people with crap PC's run IV without a problem, and some with amazingly fast PC's have trouble running it.

[dansgas1000]

QUOTE (Exxon @ Sunday, May 13 2012, 15:19)

My guesses: 1. Probably Very High to Max at atleast 30 or higher must be reachable. 2. Just about nothing, it's only better in games which use more than 1 GB of VRAM, and there aren't that many games that do so. 3. I don't think it would, it'll probably only run a little hotter or less hot than the other. 4. Probably yes, but if you keep the sliders at 50 and the shadow density off it'll run very smooth 5. 8 GB is actually a little overkill, but to my opinion it's useful for the future even though 3 GB RAM will be enough for quite some time. 6/7/8/9. That depends on if you're lucky, some people with crap PC's run IV without a problem, and some with amazingly fast PC's have trouble running it.

Thanks

[yojo2]

1. About 30FPS @ Full HD.
2. They're the same. If you are looking for a 2Gb card, i'd consider getting Radeon HD7850.
3. Most of the time ASUS cards are cheaper and have better cooling. EVGA has better warranty though.
4. Of course yes.
5. Definitely enough.
6. About 30FPS @ Full HD.
7. About 25FPS @ Full HD.
8. 60FPS @ Full HD with ENB, obviously.
9. About 25FPS @ Full HD.

[PrometheusX]

QUOTE (yojo2 @ Sunday, May 13 2012, 17:46)

9. About 25FPS @ Full HD.

Actually it can be closer to 30-35FPS.

[yojo2]

It depends. During night it'll be possible to reach even ~50FPS, while during the day FPS might fall below 25. At least that's what I predict, given the performance I get from my GTX470.

[dansgas1000]

QUOTE (yojo2 @ Sunday, May 13 2012, 17:46)

1. About 30FPS @ Full HD. 2. They're the same. If you are looking for a 2Gb card, i'd consider getting Radeon HD7850. 3. Most of the time ASUS cards are cheaper and have better cooling. EVGA has better warranty though. 4. Of course yes. 5. Definitely enough. 6. About 30FPS @ Full HD. 7. About 25FPS @ Full HD. 8. 60FPS @ Full HD with ENB, obviously. 9. About 25FPS @ Full HD.

Thanks, what about San Andreas w/out enb? I know it will be AWESOME frame rate but im just curious

[PrometheusX]

QUOTE (dansgas1000 @ Sunday, May 13 2012, 20:40)

QUOTE (yojo2 @ Sunday, May 13 2012, 17:46) 1. About 30FPS @ Full HD. 2. They're the same. If you are looking for a 2Gb card, i'd consider getting Radeon HD7850. 3. Most of the time ASUS cards are cheaper and have better cooling. EVGA has better warranty though. 4. Of course yes. 5. Definitely enough. 6. About 30FPS @ Full HD. 7. About 25FPS @ Full HD. 8. 60FPS @ Full HD with ENB, obviously. 9. About 25FPS @ Full HD. Thanks, what about San Andreas w/out enb? I know it will be AWESOME frame rate but im just curious

60FPS @ Full HD too, I think there's a framelimit no?

Anyways 60 or more doesn't make a difference.

[dansgas1000]

QUOTE (PrometheusX @ Sunday, May 13 2012, 20:43)

QUOTE (dansgas1000 @ Sunday, May 13 2012, 20:40) QUOTE (yojo2 @ Sunday, May 13 2012, 17:46) 1. About 30FPS @ Full HD. 2. They're the same. If you are looking for a 2Gb card, i'd consider getting Radeon HD7850. 3. Most of the time ASUS cards are cheaper and have better cooling. EVGA has better warranty though. 4. Of course yes. 5. Definitely enough. 6. About 30FPS @ Full HD. 7. About 25FPS @ Full HD. 8. 60FPS @ Full HD with ENB, obviously. 9. About 25FPS @ Full HD. Thanks, what about San Andreas w/out enb? I know it will be AWESOME frame rate but im just curious 60FPS @ Full HD too, I think there's a framelimit no? Anyways 60 or more doesn't make a difference.

thanks. Now i don't mean to be an annoying d**k or anything but can you awnser these questions please:

(GTX 560 Ti + i5 2500k (Overclocked to 4.5GHz) + 4GB RAM)

(ALL AT 1366x768 RES)

1) Frame rate for LOWEST GTA IV settings
2) Frame rate for low/medim GTA IV settings
3) Frame rate for med GTA IV settings
4) Frame rate for med/high GTA IV settings
5) Frame rate for high GTA IV settings
6) Frame rate for high-very high GTA IV settings
7) Frame rate for Maxed out GTA IV settings

Im just curious

[PrometheusX]

QUOTE (dansgas1000 @ Sunday, May 13 2012, 20:49)

QUOTE (PrometheusX @ Sunday, May 13 2012, 20:43) QUOTE (dansgas1000 @ Sunday, May 13 2012, 20:40) QUOTE (yojo2 @ Sunday, May 13 2012, 17:46) 1. About 30FPS @ Full HD. 2. They're the same. If you are looking for a 2Gb card, i'd consider getting Radeon HD7850. 3. Most of the time ASUS cards are cheaper and have better cooling. EVGA has better warranty though. 4. Of course yes. 5. Definitely enough. 6. About 30FPS @ Full HD. 7. About 25FPS @ Full HD. 8. 60FPS @ Full HD with ENB, obviously. 9. About 25FPS @ Full HD. Thanks, what about San Andreas w/out enb? I know it will be AWESOME frame rate but im just curious 60FPS @ Full HD too, I think there's a framelimit no? Anyways 60 or more doesn't make a difference. thanks. Now i don't mean to be an annoying d**k or anything but can you awnser these questions please: (GTX 560 Ti + i5 2500k (Overclocked to 4.5GHz) + 4GB RAM) (ALL AT 1366x768 RES) 1) Frame rate for LOWEST GTA IV settings 2) Frame rate for low/medim GTA IV settings 3) Frame rate for med GTA IV settings 4) Frame rate for med/high GTA IV settings 5) Frame rate for high GTA IV settings 6) Frame rate for high-very high GTA IV settings 7) Frame rate for Maxed out GTA IV settings Im just curious

All 60FPS.

Because of the res

[dansgas1000]

QUOTE (PrometheusX @ Sunday, May 13 2012, 20:53)

QUOTE (dansgas1000 @ Sunday, May 13 2012, 20:49) QUOTE (PrometheusX @ Sunday, May 13 2012, 20:43) QUOTE (dansgas1000 @ Sunday, May 13 2012, 20:40) QUOTE (yojo2 @ Sunday, May 13 2012, 17:46) 1. About 30FPS @ Full HD. 2. They're the same. If you are looking for a 2Gb card, i'd consider getting Radeon HD7850. 3. Most of the time ASUS cards are cheaper and have better cooling. EVGA has better warranty though. 4. Of course yes. 5. Definitely enough. 6. About 30FPS @ Full HD. 7. About 25FPS @ Full HD. 8. 60FPS @ Full HD with ENB, obviously. 9. About 25FPS @ Full HD. Thanks, what about San Andreas w/out enb? I know it will be AWESOME frame rate but im just curious 60FPS @ Full HD too, I think there's a framelimit no? Anyways 60 or more doesn't make a difference. thanks. Now i don't mean to be an annoying d**k or anything but can you awnser these questions please: (GTX 560 Ti + i5 2500k (Overclocked to 4.5GHz) + 4GB RAM) (ALL AT 1366x768 RES) 1) Frame rate for LOWEST GTA IV settings 2) Frame rate for low/medim GTA IV settings 3) Frame rate for med GTA IV settings 4) Frame rate for med/high GTA IV settings 5) Frame rate for high GTA IV settings 6) Frame rate for high-very high GTA IV settings 7) Frame rate for Maxed out GTA IV settings Im just curious All 60FPS. Because of the res

Ok thanks, just one more thing

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Galaxy-Z68-Mothe...=item27bfc921a8

This pc is good no?

I can run max iv settings? Max icenhancer?

Is it good for the price?

[PrometheusX]

QUOTE (dansgas1000 @ Sunday, May 13 2012, 21:24)

QUOTE (PrometheusX @ Sunday, May 13 2012, 20:53) QUOTE (dansgas1000 @ Sunday, May 13 2012, 20:49) QUOTE (PrometheusX @ Sunday, May 13 2012, 20:43) QUOTE (dansgas1000 @ Sunday, May 13 2012, 20:40) QUOTE (yojo2 @ Sunday, May 13 2012, 17:46) 1. About 30FPS @ Full HD. 2. They're the same. If you are looking for a 2Gb card, i'd consider getting Radeon HD7850. 3. Most of the time ASUS cards are cheaper and have better cooling. EVGA has better warranty though. 4. Of course yes. 5. Definitely enough. 6. About 30FPS @ Full HD. 7. About 25FPS @ Full HD. 8. 60FPS @ Full HD with ENB, obviously. 9. About 25FPS @ Full HD. Thanks, what about San Andreas w/out enb? I know it will be AWESOME frame rate but im just curious 60FPS @ Full HD too, I think there's a framelimit no? Anyways 60 or more doesn't make a difference. thanks. Now i don't mean to be an annoying d**k or anything but can you awnser these questions please: (GTX 560 Ti + i5 2500k (Overclocked to 4.5GHz) + 4GB RAM) (ALL AT 1366x768 RES) 1) Frame rate for LOWEST GTA IV settings 2) Frame rate for low/medim GTA IV settings 3) Frame rate for med GTA IV settings 4) Frame rate for med/high GTA IV settings 5) Frame rate for high GTA IV settings 6) Frame rate for high-very high GTA IV settings 7) Frame rate for Maxed out GTA IV settings Im just curious All 60FPS. Because of the res Ok thanks, just one more thing http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Galaxy-Z68-Mothe...=item27bfc921a8 This pc is good no? I can run max iv settings? Max icenhancer? Is it good for the price?

It looks good, but I'm not %100 sure.

@yojo: Your opinion?

[mkey82]

Most of those FPS questions can't be answered properly, it's simply very hard to assess any of them. If you're lucky you're going to run the game great, if not it may even refuse to start. Keep in mind that the game scales badly with settings across the board.

What's certain is that 2500K i5 @>4GHz and something like 560Ti is probably the best bang for your money currently. On that resolution you mentioned, 1GB solution is probably decent enough and for most game you don't even need any more VRAM. But if you're aiming for GTAIV mostly and especially if you want to be GTAV ready, 2GB is probably the way to go. I have a feeling GTAV is going to be one memory hungry motherf*cker.

[dansgas1000]

QUOTE (mkey82 @ Monday, May 14 2012, 05:09)

Most of those FPS questions can't be answered properly, it's simply very hard to assess any of them. If you're lucky you're going to run the game great, if not it may even refuse to start. Keep in mind that the game scales badly with settings across the board. What's certain is that 2500K i5 @>4GHz and something like 560Ti is probably the best bang for your money currently. On that resolution you mentioned, 1GB solution is probably decent enough and for most game you don't even need any more VRAM. But if you're aiming for GTAIV mostly and especially if you want to be GTAV ready, 2GB is probably the way to go. I have a feeling GTAV is going to be one memory hungry motherf*cker.

GTAV is going to be one memory hungry mother*ucker haha lol. Thanks for all of your help guys

[yojo2]

QUOTE (dansgas1000 @ Sunday, May 13 2012, 23:24)

Ok thanks, just one more thing http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Galaxy-Z68-Mothe...=item27bfc921a8 This pc is good no? I can run max iv settings? Max icenhancer? Is it good for the price?

IMHO it's nothing special - weak motherboard, not so good case, unknown power supply.

[dansgas1000]

QUOTE (yojo2 @ Monday, May 14 2012, 13:10)

QUOTE (dansgas1000 @ Sunday, May 13 2012, 23:24) Ok thanks, just one more thing http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Galaxy-Z68-Mothe...=item27bfc921a8 This pc is good no? I can run max iv settings? Max icenhancer? Is it good for the price? IMHO it's nothing special - weak motherboard, not so good case, unknown power supply.

Thanks. Can you find me one under £850 with at least...

6GB RAM
GTX 560 Ti (I dont want radeon)
i5 2500k (I dont want AMD)

THANKS :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

[luceberg]

This one is a little more, but is preoverclocked to 4.5Ghz.

http://3xs.scan.co.uk/ShowSystem.asp?SystemID=1209

or this one.

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct....id=2040&subcat=

[dansgas1000]

QUOTE (luceberg @ Monday, May 14 2012, 16:14)

This one is a little more, but is preoverclocked to 4.5Ghz. http://3xs.scan.co.uk/ShowSystem.asp?SystemID=1209 or this one. http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct....id=2040&subcat=

I've been on that first link loads of times i still might buy that

But that second one also seems very good

This post has been edited by dansgas1000 on Monday, May 14 2012, 16:29

[yojo2]

Does it have to be a pre-built rig? If you'd buy parts separately, you'd get the best deal. The first PC that luceberg linked to is nothing special (GTX550Ti is much slower than GTX560Ti), the second one is okay, but nothing more IMHO.

[dansgas1000]

QUOTE (yojo2 @ Monday, May 14 2012, 19:30)

Does it have to be a pre-built rig? If you'd buy parts separately, you'd get the best deal. The first PC that luceberg linked to is nothing special (GTX550Ti is much slower than GTX560Ti), the second one is okay, but nothing more IMHO.

Ifg i did get the first one i'd upgrade to a GTX 560 Ti. How to put a computer together? I don't know these things pre-built would be easier.