[inflamedeyeball]

QUOTE (chuckberry04 @ Sunday, May 6 2012, 21:21)

QUOTE (inflamedeyeball @ Sunday, May 6 2012, 18:06) QUOTE (shiek @ Sunday, May 6 2012, 17:56) I think the handing on a bike in GTAIV is good, I'm pretty skilled on riding bikes on GTAIV it's a matter of getting used to the handling of the bike, once you have mastered that I find the bike handling is fine. 'You just have to get used to it' is a bad argument. Like a Dutch comedian once said; if you jam a stick in your anus every day, you will eventually get used to it, but that's not a good reason to do it. There is certainly room for improvement for the handling of bikes in this new generation of GTA, and every other vehicle as well, in my opinion. No it aint. What he means is that you have to learn how to drive one. It just became a little more realistic than in previous GTA and that's what you should het used too. It's not even that harder or different than SA. People who say they flie of the bike all the time obviously just hit something, the same thing happens in SA.. In LC theres more traffic and less space tho, so it will happen more. The real difference is that you can't drive as a retard anymore. Don't take off at full speed and don't take corners too sharp at a too high speed, that's really all theres to. And your statement with the comedian and the stick is clearly absurt. Theres no point or joy in doing that unless youre gay, while driving bikes are.. What kind of comparison is that?

- Aint aint a word.

- Flying off my bike isn't a problem for me, as like you said, this only tends to happen when you hit something. The awful handling is. My problem with bike control is that it feels like skating on ice while holding a ton of bricks to me (much like the handling of most of the rest of the vehicles in IV). The handling from SA could certainly be more realistic, but IV is overdoing it in my opinion.

- Driving like a 'retard', like you said it (you should be careful with that word, some members have a family member who is mentally retarded and find the word offensive, naturally) is part of the reason why I enjoy GTA so much. Driving through the city doing 150 kph round a corner is and into a group of people is something that's ill-advised at best in real life, which makes it such fun to do in a game.

- Most gay men don't practice anal sex, and would enjoy the stick just as much as you would.

- While I agree with you that there are more reasons to drive a bike in GTA than doing the stick thing, this wasn't quite my point. My point was defending something by saying 'you just have to get used to it' is not a good way of defending it. The best things in life come naturally, and like some members already pointed out, it shouldn't be a chore to keep your bike in check, and if you are currently getting used to something, it isn't a bad idea to take a minute to reflect and think 'why am I doing this?' (The thing the comedian was talking about was wearing a tie in the most uncomfortable place it could possibly be, which is around your neck. FYI)

[GIXXER]

l wish niko could perform kneedrag on corners

This post has been edited by GIXXER on Tuesday, Jul 24 2012, 22:36

[nic_23]

i think the only thing they need to change on the bikes is acceleration, the acceleration on a bike should be rapid.

[JBanton]

The Sanchez in IV doesn't behave anything like my dirt bike when I ride it, plus what full-sized dirt/ sport motorcycle has automatic transmission?

[DeadZombie]

It's a about wide turns and slowing Down for sharp turns. If you get use to it. It's as easy as driving a car.

[jamieleng]

I hope they make the bikes handle exactly like those in Saints Row 2 & 3 . Those bikes couldn't even fall over.

[DeadZombie]

QUOTE (jamieleng @ Monday, Dec 10 2012, 19:12)

I hope they make the bikes handle exactly like those in Saints Row 2 & 3 . Those bikes couldn't even fall over.

Yeah I hope GTA is like saints row also. More dildo bats please

[Gst0395]

I am used to IV's motorcycle physics, and of course EFLC improved them. They should bring the physics back in V but at least tweak them to make them feel more "arcade".

[JBanton]

QUOTE (Gst0395 @ Monday, Dec 10 2012, 19:56)

I am used to IV's motorcycle physics, and of course EFLC improved them. They should bring the physics back in V but at least tweak them to make them feel more "arcade".

As a motorcycle rider, I'd rather they tweak it to be more real. Motorcycle riding requires skill, one should not use a motorcycle if they do not have the skill to.

[Gst0395]

QUOTE (JBanton @ Monday, Dec 10 2012, 20:06)

QUOTE (Gst0395 @ Monday, Dec 10 2012, 19:56) I am used to IV's motorcycle physics, and of course EFLC improved them. They should bring the physics back in V but at least tweak them to make them feel more "arcade". As a motorcycle rider, I'd rather they tweak it to be more real. Motorcycle riding requires skill, one should not use a motorcycle if they do not have the skill to.

My dad is a motorcycle rider as well. You make a fair point. As long as the bikes handle and accelerate well I'm not really bothered what they do.

[Killerdude8]

I don't see the issue with Bikes, I can drive around a corner with little to no trouble at all, best advice I can give you is; Learn to ride the bike better.

[Beez]

QUOTE (Gst0395 @ Monday, Dec 10 2012, 16:09)

QUOTE (JBanton @ Monday, Dec 10 2012, 20:06) QUOTE (Gst0395 @ Monday, Dec 10 2012, 19:56) I am used to IV's motorcycle physics, and of course EFLC improved them. They should bring the physics back in V but at least tweak them to make them feel more "arcade". As a motorcycle rider, I'd rather they tweak it to be more real. Motorcycle riding requires skill, one should not use a motorcycle if they do not have the skill to. My dad is a motorcycle rider as well. You make a fair point. As long as the bikes handle and accelerate well I'm not really bothered what they do.

Seems like everyone wants more realism everywhere except in the motorcycles. Motos in IV was fine, you just needed to learn how ride them. In fact, the car handling was very different from the III era too and it took me a while to master that. You just need to think about how motorcycles work in real life and then apply that to riding them in GTA.

Accelerate smoothly (not full throttle from a standstill), build speed, brake before turns when the bike is straight up and down, off the brakes and lean into the corner with no throttle and no brakes, then finish the turn by smoothly feeding in more throttle while straightening up the bike. And you all know that you can shift gears by letting off the throttle for a split second, right?

In real life, you can't be at full lean and hard on the brakes. You will low side. If you do it in GTA you don't low side but you get the sliding on ice effect. IRL, you also can't be at full lean and full on the gas. You will low side if you're lucky, if not you will high side. GTA lets you get away with this even more than the braking scenario.

Just remember, you are putting all the power to the ground through one contact patch the size of a softball. When you're braking you get the added benefit of the front tire's contact patch so now you have a softball and a tennis ball. Compare that to an AWD supercar, 4 huge, rectangular contact patches with power going to all of them. Of course you will be able to corner, accelerate and stop harder in the car but if you try to ride the bike in the same manner, it's going to be yard sale all day long.

The advantage of the bikes, once you have mastered them, is being able to split through dense traffic and tight spaces. Not outright speed and cornering ability.

[jamieleng]

QUOTE (Gst0395 @ Monday, Dec 10 2012, 19:56)

I am used to IV's motorcycle physics, and of course EFLC improved them. They should bring the physics back in V but at least tweak them to make them feel more "arcade".

Johnny Klebitz on his Custom Hexer felt fairly realistic but a lot more forgiving too. I think that was pretty much the right balance, maybe just little bit more challenging on the superbikes. I certainly don't want them to be too easy to handle though, there has to be a learning curve or what's the point?

This post has been edited by jamieleng on Monday, Dec 10 2012, 21:03

[XrayEyes]

Theyve should bring back driving school, cause realism IS HERE TO STAY. Thank you very much!

I did win at 99% of my time in races with mc.

They should for hell not downgrade it. I get so pissed off!

[Chukkles]

QUOTE (Mr.c TO the J @ Sunday, May 6 2012, 01:53)

Though in IV, the PCJ-600 especially just glided around the corners like I was on ice most of the time, and I breaked around every corner too, but it always found away to float, I learned to deal with it but it would just be nice if GTAV went with the TLAD/TBoGT improvements to bikes, and I’ll be happy. Though like trip aid TLAD was still far from perfect.

You don't brake around corners. Damn why don't people understand this, braking around a corner will cause you to slide, going too fast around a corner will cause you to slide, doing both is a deathwish.


Brake on the straight before the corner and accelerate out of it.

I hope the only tweak they make is to cars, so they don't sway about like boats.

Everything else is fine and a joy to play (for me).

TBH I hope it become less forgiving and actually have the ability to flip the rider off when appropriate.


@JamieLeng: Yeha Johnny's Hexer was cool, but it's more like a car than a bike.

This post has been edited by Chukkles on Monday, Dec 10 2012, 23:46

[JBanton]

I agree, they should make motorcycle usage less forgiving, especially for the dirt bikes when used off-road because the rider has to deal with challenging terrain as well...

[H.I.M.]

QUOTE (Piperka @ Sunday, May 6 2012, 01:26)

GTA IV completely put me off riding motorbikes. It became a chore because the handling was pretty retarded and the bikes just drift a lot especially when you turn. GTA San Andreas had perfect handling of motorbikes,

That ain't true for me. The bike handling was OK in IV and it's DLCs. I loved stunting them and even driving them..

GTA San Andreas of course also had good bike handling especially when you have max bike skill. Would love to see it like that in V.

[deathdiggerswe]

QUOTE (inflamedeyeball @ Monday, May 7 2012, 13:19)

QUOTE (chuckberry04 @ Sunday, May 6 2012, 21:21) QUOTE (inflamedeyeball @ Sunday, May 6 2012, 18:06) QUOTE (shiek @ Sunday, May 6 2012, 17:56) I think the handing on a bike in GTAIV is good, I'm pretty skilled on riding bikes on GTAIV it's a matter of getting used to the handling of the bike, once you have mastered that I find the bike handling is fine. 'You just have to get used to it' is a bad argument. Like a Dutch comedian once said; if you jam a stick in your anus every day, you will eventually get used to it, but that's not a good reason to do it. There is certainly room for improvement for the handling of bikes in this new generation of GTA, and every other vehicle as well, in my opinion. No it aint. What he means is that you have to learn how to drive one. It just became a little more realistic than in previous GTA and that's what you should het used too. It's not even that harder or different than SA. People who say they flie of the bike all the time obviously just hit something, the same thing happens in SA.. In LC theres more traffic and less space tho, so it will happen more. The real difference is that you can't drive as a retard anymore. Don't take off at full speed and don't take corners too sharp at a too high speed, that's really all theres to. And your statement with the comedian and the stick is clearly absurt. Theres no point or joy in doing that unless youre gay, while driving bikes are.. What kind of comparison is that? - Aint aint a word. - Flying off my bike isn't a problem for me, as like you said, this only tends to happen when you hit something. The awful handling is. My problem with bike control is that it feels like skating on ice while holding a ton of bricks to me (much like the handling of most of the rest of the vehicles in IV). The handling from SA could certainly be more realistic, but IV is overdoing it in my opinion. - Driving like a 'retard', like you said it (you should be careful with that word, some members have a family member who is mentally retarded and find the word offensive, naturally) is part of the reason why I enjoy GTA so much. Driving through the city doing 150 kph round a corner is and into a group of people is something that's ill-advised at best in real life, which makes it such fun to do in a game. - Most gay men don't practice anal sex, and would enjoy the stick just as much as you would. - While I agree with you that there are more reasons to drive a bike in GTA than doing the stick thing, this wasn't quite my point. My point was defending something by saying 'you just have to get used to it' is not a good way of defending it. The best things in life come naturally, and like some members already pointed out, it shouldn't be a chore to keep your bike in check, and if you are currently getting used to something, it isn't a bad idea to take a minute to reflect and think 'why am I doing this?' (The thing the comedian was talking about was wearing a tie in the most uncomfortable place it could possibly be, which is around your neck. FYI)

We do have a valid reason. The difference between the proponents and the opponents on this issue, is that we have the ambition and find challenges entertaining, unlike you. By that purpose, your comparison still has no importance in this regard.

[golf wang]

Just make it better than IV. In IV it was no fun cause I kept flying off the bikes, lmao. Call me a "noob" or a "casual gamer" or whatever, it won't affect me, I have a life .

[gta5freemode4eva]

The handling of bikes is fine in GTA IV as long as you ride them like you would in real life. Infact GTA IV is better than real life because the game lets you stay on the bike and go sideways / drift around corners without throwing you off all the time. Valentino Rossi is the only person I've seen doing this in real life. Hint

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