[Karambalaya]

Poll says it all, what do you think? Does the game portray drugs (and its users) in a bad way?

[huevos_benedicto_180]

Pot smoking Jacob is fine, hard drug users are f*cked. Second option.

[dmob306]

QUOTE (huevos_benedicto_180 @ Saturday, May 5 2012, 20:56)

Pot smoking Jacob is fine, hard drug users are f*cked. Second option.

In the mission Concrete Jungle, Jacob tells niko hes been smoking crack..."I don't know, I been smoking hard, you know? It f*cks wit me brain a
little, makes me think all type a' sh*t. A dread who don't trust himself can't trust no one else, seen?"

[huevos_benedicto_180]

QUOTE (dmob306 @ Friday, May 11 2012, 14:57)

QUOTE (huevos_benedicto_180 @ Saturday, May 5 2012, 20:56) Pot smoking Jacob is fine, hard drug users are f*cked. Second option. In the mission Concrete Jungle, Jacob tells niko hes been smoking crack..."I don't know, I been smoking hard, you know? It f*cks wit me brain a little, makes me think all type a' sh*t. A dread who don't trust himself can't trust no one else, seen?"

Huh. Well remembered.

[thecommander]

I did the third one cause Niko doesn't seem to have an issue selling and moving heroin

Money is money and he didn't care what he had to do to get it.

[CJ killed Ryder]

Rockstar is not pro or anti-drugs, they are just portraying the crime world.

[AceRay]

I think its anti drugs. The game is showing the brutal realism or drug abuse through a few characters ie Derrick's cocaine addiction drives his family apart, Brian's stranger missions etc. The only character who's really on top of it is LJ.

[dmob306]

You can drink. alcohol is a drug. the game is pro-drugs

[zoo3891]

Not only do we see the effects of abuse of hard drugs, we also see the effects of participating in distribution of it. Niko got mixed up in the heroin trade, ended up almost being killed multiple times, and killing at least five or six people simply because he was a friend of their enemy. We also see the cops crack down on the trade in nearly every mission it was involved.

Pot however, is tossed around as if it were a softball. Jacob turns Niko's car into a hotbox, Elizabeta is obviously a smoker, pedestrians advertise their drug use (If I recall correctly), etc.

[jpm1]

i think R* is clearly anti-violence so against any form of illegal , that's the first thing you can see when you start the game "R* in any case encourage or condone ..." . but main feature of GTA is about cars and than importance in sneaking between chickens lines , and get yourself to a safe place . so GTA without vilence and thus without drug dealing hasn't the same "taste" . i sincerely hope GTA will move to a less violent atmosphere , but i also know that it's not something easy to do

[sansoocrazydevil]

QUOTE (dmob306 @ Wednesday, May 23 2012, 23:38)

You can drink. alcohol is a drug. the game is pro-drugs

dont be ridiculous cigerettes , alcohol are drugs yes...

however you know that is not what was meant by "Drugs" in this thread.

Rockstar clearly doesn't promote drug use, could you imagine the lawsuit insanity ?

However Rockstar clearly is not anti-drug. Whether you are talking alcohol , cigerettes , cocaine , marijuana even placing heroine and crack in game.

L.A.NOIRE nearly everyone smoked cigerettes , all the detectives drank alcohol and a really "square" looking teenager smoked "reefer" ....dont forget the major plot which I will not mention to not spoil for the adults who choose to play this game. Also dont forget to notice the game takes place in 1947.

Rockstar is more than complicit in its stance on illegal drugs.

[Schismatist]

What I've always liked about Niko is that his moral views are somewhat libertarian in a sense, he doesn't necessarily care what other people do to themselves, he sees it as their fault whatever comes to them. That doesn't mean Niko is anti-drugs or pro-drugs, he most likely sees it as survival of the fittest. GTA4 doesn't portray any bias, just a portrayal of reality(Though, like any other form of media, condensed and exaggerated.)

[CajunSnipes]

QUOTE (dmob306 @ Wednesday, May 23 2012, 23:38)

You can drink. alcohol is a drug. the game is pro-drugs

Jack Thompson logic.

[dmob306]

QUOTE (sansoocrazydevil @ Wednesday, May 30 2012, 10:44)

QUOTE (dmob306 @ Wednesday, May 23 2012, 23:38) You can drink. alcohol is a drug. the game is pro-drugs  dont be ridiculous cigerettes , alcohol are drugs yes... however you know that is not what was meant by "Drugs" in this thread. Rockstar clearly doesn't promote drug use, could you imagine the lawsuit insanity ? However Rockstar clearly is not anti-drug. Whether you are talking alcohol , cigerettes , cocaine , marijuana even placing heroine and crack in game. L.A.NOIRE nearly everyone smoked cigerettes , all the detectives drank alcohol and a really "square" looking teenager smoked "reefer" ....dont forget the major plot which I will not mention to not spoil for the adults who choose to play this game. Also dont forget to notice the game takes place in 1947. Rockstar is more than complicit in its stance on illegal drugs.

I understand that the core of GTA is like a picture of the world (and all its nasty bits) taken with a funny lens. The game is nether pro nor anti toward drugs as its users go through normal everyday situations that real users of the drugs would go through. . Which is why I'm being intentionally ridicules because this topic is a bit ridicules.