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Right now for my senior English class I am working on a essay for adult nutrition and I am doing adult obesity. And the thing that scared me while researching this information is how bad our world has gotten especially here in United States. It's brought up in the media and our newspapers, but doesn't seem it's brought up enough to get people too scared.

Now, if you go to this link, it shows back in 2005 that three states in United States of America had 30% or higher obese. And if you go to 2010 which is in just 5 years, we have thirteen states now. And that's just in 2010. What about now? The rate were going we might have 3-4 more states that are just at 30%.

It saddens me that people see these articles or on T.V on how to eat healthy, but don't take the initiative to do it. I mean, let's be honest here. We have to have our cravens once in a while, and I don't expect people to accomplish everything on a health pyramid or something. But it helps when they do some better food choices instead of getting lazy and going to McDonald's cause were to lazy to make our own food.

Cause I swear I will see at least 5 people obsessed just from walking to school and back. It seems like that the movie scene from Wall-e will become our future. And if you think i'm being ridiculous, then why is the media showing us how to eat healthy, why did they make the movie super size me, why do they make website's on who is more obsessed? Because our nation is getting out of control. It's scary if you ask me and it takes a simple little reading and doing, and if we do then our nation would be alright. But people think it's so hard.

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A big problem is poverty. A lot of people ask, oh yeah if that family is so poor why are they all so fat? The answer is the food they eat. In Mississippi for example, the poorest (and most conservative, no correlation though right guys) and fattest state we have, families can't get by and instead they eat McDonald's all the time. I just really think if we worked on fighting poverty obesity would come down too.

Further, if you compare our food with say, French food, which is much unhealthier, one would assume the French are fatter. Not so. I read a psychological article basically saying that Americans have this feeling that they need to clean the whole plate, and the key is Americans stop eating when the plate is empty. French stop eating when they feel full. Here it is for reference, really interested me.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/...80215103153.htm

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McDonalds is disgusting.
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QUOTE (Irviding @ Friday, May 4 2012, 01:33)
A big problem is poverty. A lot of people ask, oh yeah if that family is so poor why are they all so fat? The answer is the food they eat. In Mississippi for example, the poorest (and most conservative, no correlation though right guys) and fattest state we have, families can't get by and instead they eat McDonald's all the time. I just really think if we worked on fighting poverty obesity would come down too.

Further, if you compare our food with say, French food, which is much unhealthier, one would assume the French are fatter. Not so. I read a psychological article basically saying that Americans have this feeling that they need to clean the whole plate, and the key is Americans stop eating when the plate is empty. French stop eating when they feel full. Here it is for reference, really interested me.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/...80215103153.htm

Great article and some great points. Thank you! And yes I will have to agree with the fact that, if people get more jobs then they might be focused on healthier eating.

I think with the problem that we have to eat everything in our plate is because our parents tell us oh well if you want to do this or that, then you need to finish everything on your plate and then it become second nature to us to eat everything. But should we really "blame" our parents for this?
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I'd disagree that french food is unhealthier. The thing about countries like France and Italy, Italy especially, is there is still a strong tradition of cooking proper meals and eating as a family at the dinner table. In the US families tend to eat out at fast food restaurants or cook microwavable meals more. I disagree about French food being unhealthier because when you think of French food you at least think of actual dishes which are properly cooked, and when you think of US food you just think of fast food/junk food.

It's a whole culture thing I think as well. Europe (although the UK less so) is more relaxed and laid back, people take the time to prepare good meals. In the US the people don't put as much emphasis on that kind of thing.
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You know what the f*cked up thing is, we are all different and there never will be any accurate "study" it's a waste of time.
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QUOTE (Radoonhagaydoon @ Friday, May 4 2012, 01:37)
McDonalds is disgusting.



Obesity is a big problem for usa.
FACTS:
-obesity is associated with 112,000 deaths in the United States each year.
-The United States spends more than 150,000 million dollars per year because of the problem of obesity and complications derived from it, such as type 2 diabetes. It a cost that has doubled since 1998 and exceeds the costs of cancer.
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So the problem goes far than personal health or esthetic problems,is a problem for the government and for the future of the country. Say that mcdonalds is the guilty is stupid,you donīt have a gun pointing to your head when you go to mcdonalds.
imo the problemare the habits that you learn in the childhood more the sedentary life.
Anyways,who cares? Obesity is so so so sexy.......
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QUOTE (Vanzant @ Friday, May 4 2012, 02:10)
You know what the f*cked up thing is, we are all different and there never will be any accurate "study" it's a waste of time.

It's a waste of time for myself and you when you put a worthless topic. That's a waste of time. Yes we may be different, but obesity isn't. And there are accurate studies out there. So if you don't know what you are talking about then leave this topic and go bother somone else. dozingoff.gif
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QUOTE (Radoonhagaydoon @ Friday, May 4 2012, 01:37)
McDonalds is disgusting.

Fast food is not the problem of the world for obese people. The people are their own problem (what?).

I mean, if we only had normal restaurants with normal food people would think: "hum, it's delicious. I'll eat a lot of this sh*t and will get fat".
McDonalds, Burger King and all the others already created that "fat" concept, which makes their food even more delicious for the "fat-adapted" people.

And this "fast food" therm should be discarded. I spend much more time waiting to get a simple burger at McDonalds than in a normal buffet queue.
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I believe that finishing everything on our plate isn't a bad problem considering that belief has been passed down through generations of families, its the food being processed and being injected with preservatives that is causing the problem. Also, eating disorders is a major factor. It's not like many of them can help it, its more or less a disease than anything. A way that I see to combat obesity is atleast doing 1-2 hours of exercise each day (1 day lifting weights next day cardio) and having a diversity of foods on your plate, 1 part dedicated to protein, another part dedicated to fruit and the other vegetables.

Fast food "restaurants" and the cheap way food is being processed will always be a problem. We have to take the initiative to get active and stay healthy.
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QUOTE (Irviding @ Thursday, May 3 2012, 17:33)
A big problem is poverty. A lot of people ask, oh yeah if that family is so poor why are they all so fat? The answer is the food they eat. In Mississippi for example, the poorest (and most conservative, no correlation though right guys) and fattest state we have, families can't get by and instead they eat McDonald's all the time. I just really think if we worked on fighting poverty obesity would come down too.

Further, if you compare our food with say, French food, which is much unhealthier, one would assume the French are fatter. Not so. I read a psychological article basically saying that Americans have this feeling that they need to clean the whole plate, and the key is Americans stop eating when the plate is empty. French stop eating when they feel full. Here it is for reference, really interested me.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/...80215103153.htm

This just about sums up the problems here.

On another note, check out my sig for an interesting movie on a man who lost weight by converting his diet to drinking juice everyday instead of eating, and inspired others to do the same. EDIT - Oh yeah and those participating in this diet exercised too, of course.
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Some say I'm "obese", but really I'm just too good at kicking starvation's ass. cool.gif

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QUOTE (GTA_stu @ Thursday, May 3 2012, 20:50)
I'd disagree that french food is unhealthier. The thing about countries like France and Italy, Italy especially, is there is still a strong tradition of cooking proper meals and eating as a family at the dinner table. In the US families tend to eat out at fast food restaurants or cook microwavable meals more. I disagree about French food being unhealthier because when you think of French food you at least think of actual dishes which are properly cooked, and when you think of US food you just think of fast food/junk food.

It's a whole culture thing I think as well. Europe (although the UK less so) is more relaxed and laid back, people take the time to prepare good meals. In the US the people don't put as much emphasis on that kind of thing.

But the point still remains that they have a tradition of eating food which is of pretty much the same caloric content of a McDonald's meal, if not more, and they are one of the healthiest countries in the world.
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QUOTE (SlickSpencer8 @ Thursday, May 3 2012, 22:28)
QUOTE (Vanzant @ Friday, May 4 2012, 02:10)
You know what the f*cked up thing is, we are all different and there never will be any accurate "study" it's a waste of time.

It's a waste of time for myself and you when you put a worthless topic. That's a waste of time. Yes we may be different, but obesity isn't. And there are accurate studies out there. So if you don't know what you are talking about then leave this topic and go bother somone else. dozingoff.gif

Don't be offended. Do your report and go ace the damn thing. My opinion of it being a waste of time comes from studies that prove these "obesity" studies are not entirely accurate. See? It's one big ass circle. Wrong or right, these so called "reports" get a profit.
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QUOTE (Vanzant @ Thursday, May 3 2012, 22:07)
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QUOTE (Vanzant @ Friday, May 4 2012, 02:10)
You know what the f*cked up thing is, we are all different and there never will be any accurate "study" it's a waste of time.

It's a waste of time for myself and you when you put a worthless topic. That's a waste of time. Yes we may be different, but obesity isn't. And there are accurate studies out there. So if you don't know what you are talking about then leave this topic and go bother somone else. dozingoff.gif

Don't be offended. Do your report and go ace the damn thing. My opinion of it being a waste of time comes from studies that prove these "obesity" studies are not entirely accurate. See? It's one big ass circle. Wrong or right, these so called "reports" get a profit.

You really don't know much about how studies work do you. We really are not that different. You can measure the way a country eats and compare it to another country very easily, as you can a ton of other things. Religion in Europe, on the decline. Religion in the US - on the uprise. Hey wait! Where am I in there? Everyone's different, this study is bullsh*t! Your comment is completely unfounded and unnecessary.
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People are poor, nasty, brutish and short and you can't change how they live. America is cushy, and they've no reason to make the effort since society is f*cking conforming around them anyways. Unless the army starts enforcing healthy diets they'll continue to get larger. Nothing you can do about it. People hate change, especially when others force it upon them.

Also, Irviding, I think he's referring to the way this so-called data is twisted and turned around so it says what the guys paying for it want it to say. wink.gif

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In American culture, we are always busy and on the go. Less and less families spend lots of time together like they used to. Yes, most families cook; but a large percentage of our meals are eaten out and we HEAVILY use the fast food drive-thru system compared to most countries. The food industry here has just gotten so good at creating accessibility for foods (dollar menu, coupons, drive-thrus with in walking distance of almost everywhere, etc.). They have gotten too good at their jobs I guess. monocle.gif

Not to mention, out of the families that do cook, homemade food has significantly decreased in quality. Most people that cook at home nowadays use heavily processed ingredients that are really already almost done (pre-made mac 'n cheese for stovetop, pre-made lasagna for the oven, pre-made pies, pre-cooked chicken, premixed meat and veggie skillets, etc.) so they aren't really making things anymore. They're really just heating sh*t up but think they're cooking because it's with a stove or oven. monocle.gif

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QUOTE (Irviding @ Thursday, May 3 2012, 21:33)
A big problem is poverty. A lot of people ask, oh yeah if that family is so poor why are they all so fat? The answer is the food they eat. In Mississippi for example, the poorest (and most conservative, no correlation though right guys) and fattest state we have, families can't get by and instead they eat McDonald's all the time. I just really think if we worked on fighting poverty obesity would come down too.

I'm not sure I agree with that. Fast food isn't cheaper than cooking cheap at home.

People are just lazy and the usa has made a market of catering to laziness. f*ck, I bet we invented the drive through fast food window. That way you don't even have to bother with that tiny bit of cardiovascular exercise of walking from your car to the restaurant and back again.

The basic exercises you need to stay trim are free and easy. People are just too lazy.

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QUOTE (fireguy109 @ Thursday, May 3 2012, 23:12)


Also, Irviding, I think he's referring to the way this so-called data is twisted and turned around so it says what the guys paying for it want it to say. wink.gif

Exactly my point. You see this these kinds of things slapped on Yahoo's front page.
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QUOTE (trip @ Thursday, May 3 2012, 21:30)
QUOTE (Irviding @ Thursday, May 3 2012, 21:33)
A big problem is poverty. A lot of people ask, oh yeah if that family is so poor why are they all so fat? The answer is the food they eat. In Mississippi for example, the poorest (and most conservative, no correlation though right guys) and fattest state we have, families can't get by and instead they eat McDonald's all the time. I just really think if we worked on fighting poverty obesity would come down too.

I'm not sure I agree with that. Fast food isn't cheaper than cooking cheap at home.

Same. My food budget for the month is about $250. Unlike the United States, McDonalds in Canada doesn't have a dollar menu, so if you want a basic meal, after tax it's probably going to be about eight bucks. Let's say you ate just one McDonalds meal a day - for 30 days, that's $240 right there, so it wouldn't be cost effective to do this in Canada (since I'm sure you're going to eat more than once a day). Most people I know who need to pinch pennies to get by temporarily will just eat Mr. Noodles. They're like 60 cents per pack.
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