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Slamman  
Posted: Tuesday, May 1 2012, 20:07
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EDIT: Think I just found my problem. I have a fan on my side panel and just noticed one of the two cables had popped out of the connector attached the motherboard fan header and was sitting on top of the PCB  confused.gif

So the marks on the screen are gone now and all is normal?

No, still there. I'm guessing the fan cable lying on top of the PCB probably fried it.

If there's no proper cooling, it's a FAIL, not having a plastic connector touching the PCB, I've decided I like blue, my favorite color, blue PCB is a win for me
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Ryan  
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Hopefully this will explain

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One of the two cables from the case fan nearby was lying on top of the video card PCB. I'm guessing it fell out while my computer was on thus causing it to short or out or something which is the cause of my problems.
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Wolf68k  
Posted: Tuesday, May 1 2012, 20:13
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Find a friend with a spare card that you can barrow for test just to see if there is a difference.
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Stinky12  
Posted: Tuesday, May 1 2012, 20:26
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Do a print screen of your desktop, then save it with MSpaint. Now take that print screen and open it with another computer or upload it here.
If picture is normal, without funny colors, then it's your monitor.
If picture contains the same funny colors, then it's your video card.
I doubt it's the fan header lying on top of the PCB that is causing the problem because the cables are mostly tucked inside a plastic header.

As for the pic, what angle are we looking at? Will this pic be of some help?
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@stinky: I believe he's saying the pin popped out of the plastic header.
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Posted: Tuesday, May 1 2012, 20:57
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Hence, no proper cooling...if the fans on the GPU come unplugged, which was what I was thinking, in narrowing down the troubleshooting aspect, prior I'd be debating the sense in solving with throwing large amounts of cash at replacement parts cost, but again, if you have the budget and you plan a wise INVESTMENT, there's nothing wrong with it either

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It's not the fan on the GPU. He said it was the wire for the case fan, but it landed on the GPU. Regardless of what fan comes unplugged, you can't just feed +12v onto random points on the back of a graphics card and not fry it.
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@Slamman: It has nothing to do with cooling you moron. There's a reason I asked you not to post here and that's cause your advice is terrible and irrelevant, now GTFO.

The picture I posted would be looking from the front of case. And to clarify, it was nothing to do with the fan on my graphics card. It's a case fan on my side panel near the graphics card I'm talking about. One of the two cables from the case fan came out of the plastic fan header that was attached to my motherboard and landed on top of the graphics card PCB. I'm thinking that it probably shorted it out.

Picture of my screen. Notice all the lines across it. Won't even boot up into Windows now. Getting into the BIOS is as far as I can get now. Got nothing to lose, so going to try baking it later and see if that does anything.

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QUOTE (leik oh em jeez! @ Tuesday, May 1 2012, 20:48)
@stinky: I believe he's saying the pin popped out of the plastic header.

The pin has a backwards hook that will make it impossible for the connector to pop out of the plastic header, even when you pull it with full force, that head will not come out. If it does pop out on its own, then that pin is already damaged to begin with.

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QUOTE (Ryan @ Tuesday, May 1 2012, 16:09)
Got nothing to lose, so going to try baking it later and see if that does anything.

I understand you've got nothing to lose, but at the same time baking isn't really going to do much assuming it was a short that damaged the card. Baking fixes problems where the GPU overheats and melts the solder contacts between the GPU and the board, causing a break. (Same thing happens with the xbox 360. Thats why sticking toothpicks in the fans for 15 minutes can fix RROD) It's a common (temporary) fix for OCers because, well overclocked cards tend to overheat.

Seeing as how you'll probably do it anyways, make sure you make aluminum foil balls to place the card on so you don't melt anything. Make sure you take any plastic covers off and DO NOT place it GPU-down if you take the heat sink off.

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The pin has a backwards hook that will make it impossible for the connector to pop out of the plastic header, even when you pull it with full force, that head will not come out. If it does pop out on its own, then that pin is already damaged to begin with.

In ideal situations, yes. But as you mentioned there is the possibility of previous damage, along with broken wires or plastic.

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As I expected, baking it did nothing. Actually seems to have made it worse, so I'm definitely in the market for a new card now.
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EVGA GeForce GTX 570 | $290

Sapphire Radeon HD 7850 OC | $270

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Seems to me like you're looking for a card right at the high end of your posted budget, but I'll throw in my two cents anyways. I've got a 2GB 6870, which you should be able to pick up for right around $200. My system very similar to yours, except I have a sandy bridge 2600k @4GHz and only 8GB of ram. I consistently see around 50FPS in BF3 at the highest settings and maximum resolution. All the other games I've tried have similar results. Something to think about, if you're into saving money.
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ONLY 8GB of Ram he says, I have 4GB, but XP doesn't work well with that
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I've been reading lots of rumours about the mid-range 600 series cards being announced next week. I think I'm just going to hold off till them and see what the 660 or the 670 are like.
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Posted: Wednesday, May 2 2012, 13:49
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I saw that, but there are lots of other rumours against it. I'll just hold out to next week and see what happens. Might get the 670. Who knows.
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Most of the articles I'm seeing are 6 months but there are a few that are saying/thinking 6 weeks.
My suggestion for the time being, and if you can without breaking a sweat, spend $50-100 for a replacement card. Just something to get you going in the mean time. Something that if it is 6 weeks you didn't spend too much that you would be about to get the card then but at same time if it does turn out to be 6 months you're not sitting there saying to your self, "Oh <bleeeeeeeep> I wasted 6 <bleep> weeks of not being about to <bleep> play to find out it'll be another 5-6 <bleep> months before I can get the <bleep> card."
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Perhaps check craigslist/ebay for a temporary 8800/9800GT? I've seen them sell around $25.
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