[lil weasel]

Anytime Science is involved we must remember these people don’t get paid by free thinking Sponsors. Yes, there are exceptions.
For the most part a Scientist is given a problem, and usually the required solution. The Scientist’s job is to make the solution the Sponsor wants the ‘valid data result’.
The Medical Profession is an ART not a Science. Medical Doctor’s know what they are told and prescribe according to their own Peer Groups. Very, very few Doctors use their own research in Pharmacology to make their decisions.
Medical Doctor’s review their own mistakes and aren’t subject to criminal law except in the very rare occasions when their Peers can’t protect them from public ire.

[Dragonjack]

I use to had A.D.H.D Not lying, Not joking But for some reason? i don't have it No more...which is Pretty Good! I feel happy And quiet in the inside.

This post has been edited by Dragonjack on Tuesday, Apr 24 2012, 10:56

[Moonshield]

Agreed 100%, especially your third paragraph (experiencing that personally). I see the medication regiments as a temporary fix for a long-term problem while the person taking it learns how to cope with the disorder until they don't need to take the medicine anymore. The idea that people are so quick to take medicines or self-diagnose (or are willing to shove medicine down their kids' throats when they don't actually need it) to the extent that people are willing to use the chemicals as a crutch is absolutely sickening.

[Slamman]

I personally disliked taking meds and chose not to take them after awhile, but I do believe that they can be effective.
I'm talking about while I was in school, so yeah, some might think I'm showing as "off my meds"

[Icarus]

QUOTE (lil weasel @ Tuesday, Apr 24 2012, 04:39)

For the most part a Scientist is given a problem, and usually the required solution. The Scientist’s job is to make the solution the Sponsor wants the ‘valid data result’.

That's not science; that's data forgery.

The true aim of science is to be taken where the evidence leads, even if that's not where you want to go.

[lil weasel]

I would agree with that.
But, this is the Real World.
So people especially uni trained professionals need to make money to pay off their loans. Thus, since the money flow is controlled by the Sponsor the Employee will comply.

We have also dealt with Research Mistakes. Take the Salk Vaccines for Polio. The Medical world was horribly damaged by that. Thousands, if not millions, of health care workers out of work because of a wonderful discovery. Think of all the medical suppliers who suddenly aren’t needed. No Iron Lungs, leg braces, Hospital Beds (wards), et cetra.
Then there is the Fluoride a dangerous waste byproduct of "aluminum” . Dentists and Oral Surgeons suddenly with a declining trade. No more tooth decay (well almost). So they have to expand to cosmetic fields to stay in business.
I don’t want to start MYTH argument here.

I seriously doubt there will be anymore Health Care Miracles through Chemistry.

This post has been edited by lil weasel on Tuesday, Apr 24 2012, 19:25

[Irviding]

QUOTE (Icarus @ Tuesday, Apr 24 2012, 13:25)

QUOTE (lil weasel @ Tuesday, Apr 24 2012, 04:39) For the most part a Scientist is given a problem, and usually the required solution. The Scientist’s job is to make the solution the Sponsor wants the ‘valid data result’. That's not science; that's data forgery. The true aim of science is to be taken where the evidence leads, even if that's not where you want to go.

Off topic, do you know anything about forensic science? I f*cked myself by taking a class on it to satisfy my science requirement.

Weasel, as mentioned, your view of science is very, well, wrong. I don't know what's with you and college educated people, but you seem to have a real problem with it and I haven't realized why. Perhaps because you feel intimidated, I don't know. But regardless, you've so far spewed such ridiculous drivel in this thread that's frankly insulting to those with ADHD. Sag pointed it out pretty well. Don't blame the drugs. Blame the family doctors and other unqualified people prescribing them with the drugs.

[lil weasel]

When you grow up and view the world from outside of the class room, if you aren't already hopelessly perverted, you will see the truth. Your need to dominate the forums is a disservice to your preceived abilities of intelligence.
Take a break. Smile. . You don't need to be right all the time.

[Icarus]

QUOTE (Irviding @ Tuesday, Apr 24 2012, 16:46)

QUOTE (Icarus @ Tuesday, Apr 24 2012, 13:25) QUOTE (lil weasel @ Tuesday, Apr 24 2012, 04:39) For the most part a Scientist is given a problem, and usually the required solution. The Scientist’s job is to make the solution the Sponsor wants the ‘valid data result’. That's not science; that's data forgery. The true aim of science is to be taken where the evidence leads, even if that's not where you want to go. Off topic, do you know anything about forensic science? I f*cked myself by taking a class on it to satisfy my science requirement.

Forensic science is a bit broad in the sense that it encompasses a large spectrum of the scientific disciplines (e.g. biology, chemistry, physics). My B.Sc. was in honours physics and forensic science can find a use for physics, but I can't say I've actually applied any of my knowledge towards anything that would fall under the purview forensic science.

[Irviding]

QUOTE (lil weasel @ Tuesday, Apr 24 2012, 18:15)

When you grow up and view the world from outside of the class room, if you aren't already hopelessly perverted, you will see the truth. Your need to dominate the forums is a disservice to your preceived abilities of intelligence. Take a break. Smile. . You don't need to be right all the time.

While I do agree I am an asshole and get very violent in debates, it's just who I am. I just feel like you have this major distrust of scientists and the medical community in general and I don't understand it.

Icarus, I shot you a PM lol.