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QUOTE (Craig @ Tuesday, Apr 17 2012, 01:47)
The entire illusion is created by a method known as Pepper's Ghost.

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also this performance wasn't technically a "hologram" as the OP implies.
it was just a large, professional version of the old Pepper's Ghost trick.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pepper's_ghost

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Afeni Shakur, Tupac's mother, was "positively thrilled" with the Coachella performance as reported by TMZ. She wasn't present at the massive music festival, but watched the live stream of the show. A representative for Afeni said that Dr. Dre asked for her approval to use Tupac's image for the show, and she granted them. In return, Dre made a donation to Tupac's charity, The Tupac Amaru Shakur Foundation.
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On the TV report where I saw it, I believe several hours before this post, They did refer to it as a hologram, for the record! haha

Speaking of Dr. Dre, Saw him commenting that a defining moment for Rap and Rock will always be RUN DMC doing Walk This Way with Aerosmith, 1986. There you have it, Dre said it, not me, but I completely agree

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The more I watch it, the more creeped out I get. I don't know why but this sends chills down my spine, there's just something about it. He's almost right there as if you could touch him but deep down we know it's just an illusion. The technology amazes and scares me.
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It was created by oscar-winning Digital Domain and AV Concepts. Who have worked with films such as TRON, X-Men and others. Here's an interview about how they did it (well, it doesn't actually go into any detail, though they state it is a hologram).
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QUOTE (Slamman @ Tuesday, Apr 17 2012, 22:22)
On the TV report where I saw it, I believe several hours before this post, They did refer to it as a hologram, for the record! haha

Speaking of Dr. Dre, Saw him commenting that a defining moment for Rap and Rock will always be RUN DMC doing Walk This Way with Aerosmith, 1986. There you have it, Dre said it, not me, but I completely agree

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DMC was a huge Rock fan and wanted more Rock in their tracks.

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I might pay to see some artists like Jim Morrison perform in this manner. I think this will catch on and will be common place.

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I hear ya!
Why not Biggie?? ha ha

One YouTube version was already pulled, but I read another saying James Cameron's digital effects studio were called in to help produce it, Doctor Dre appears to get the credit for this though

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QUOTE (tejasm @ Monday, Apr 16 2012, 20:17)
Tupac isn't a god. But he's like an Afroamerican version of Mahatma Gandhi. The way he was treated for the alleged rape of a fan is unacceptable. Listen to Keep ya head up or dear mama, and then tell me that a man with that much respect for Women could rape someone. He believed in world peace,non violence and an end to poverty and cruelty just like Gandhi. And he was a prophet, predicting the circumstances of his death. Rip Pac.

Tupac wasn't some sort of angel or saint. Listen to "Hit Em Up" and tell me your thoughts. Accusing Biggie for planning on killing him WITHOUT proof? That's just plain ignorance. Yes, he had good intentions, but he had his moments of mere stupidity. If you watch his interview when he was seventeen, you would see he wasn't anything like other people his age at the time. He actually had good knowledge and philosophy. He looked as though he was the kid who would change society for the better. However, this thing called "gangster rap" came along and pretty much ruined him. Instead of promoting what he seemed to be against, he followed along with it.

He had so much potential to even end the epidemic of blacks' involvement in gangs, but he ruined it all. This is just another tragic story. He could have been much more, but he refused to go that route.

Here's part of "Hail Mary":
"I ain't a killer, but don't push me. Revenge is like the sweetest joy next to getting pussy."

He obviously wasn't as much of a saint as you think.

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You clearly don't know what your talking about. Firstly, gangster rap wasn't glorifying or encouraging black on black crime or gangs. Hip-Hop talked about reality, and in California the gang scene was reality, so they talked about it.

He wasn't a gangster, he was always rapping about change and how black people should unite instead of killing each other. Changes is a perfect example of Pac's attitude towards gangs. On the other hand he accepted what was going on because he understood that some people didn't have a choice, it was either selling drugs or poverty for alot of people. He didn't ruin anything which is why his inspirational lyrics and his philosophy still live on today.

He wasn't a saint or a god, but in the eyes of people who were struggling every day to survive, he certainly was.

QUOTE (Tupac Shakur)
“The same crime element that white people are scared of black people are scared of. While they waiting for legislation to pass, we next door to the killer. All them killers they let out, they're right in that building, 'cause we up in the projects. Just because we black, we get along with the killers? What is that? We need protection too!”

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Does that sound like he promotes violence and crime? Or 'followed along with it'.

At your comment below. You just sound like a typical person with a misjudged view on Hip-Hop. You don't seem to understand the history of Hip-Hop and why rappers say some of the things they do. You're using rap lyrics to justify what your saying? Do you think Eminem wants to kill all homosexuals? The Hip-Hop culture started around batteling other rappers, boasting and bragging about things you've done or what happens around you. It's not neccessarily something they believe in, but talking about street cred or the fact you've been locked up would let people know that your serious. Remember this is people who live in an environment where they get killed for wearing the wrong colour. So talking about that stuff is very important because gaining respect is a huge factor in the Black community. Rappers had to make themselves known to people, it wasn't as simple as going straight to MTV. It's not about acting hard, look at prison gangs and how they have their bodies covered in tattoos, it's not because they want to look cool, it gets them a reputation and they gain respect.

For many people crime is, in fact, the only realistic option. The majority have no fathers and a weak family life, so their role models become the drug dealers and gang members on the streets, who are making money. It's not through choice, they don't know any better and if they did, they wouldn't live like they do. Nobody wants to live in the ghetto, that's the kind of f*cking retarded attitude I see from people trying to criticise rappers. If you were desperate for money and were forced to live in a run down neighbourhood, were constantly discriminated against, and selling drugs could make you the money you need, you'd be doing it too. I agree anyone who commits crimes for a living is stupid, rappers are trying to better themselves and make money legitemately, and tell people about their struggles to become successful, that's is their alternative to crime. You're really just using the stereotypes to assume that the only reason they do all of this is because it's "cool". I may as well post another example from the Rhyme & Reason documentary, which is excellent and I suggest you watch it, maybe you'll have a better perspective on things. Skip to the 5:52 mark here. It's pretty clear that it's not about being hard, alot of people endure terrible circumstances which influences them to make bad decisions. If you really look hard at the lyrics you'll see the true meaning is almost always positive. That's why Hip-Hop on its own has done good things for people living in ghettos and created unity among communities. Now tell me how it could be so successful if it's just a bunch of kids bragging about guns?

Really sorry for going off topic, rant over.

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QUOTE (SmC12 @ Thursday, Apr 26 2012, 17:00)
You clearly don't know what your talking about. Firstly, gangster rap wasn't glorifying or encouraging black on black crime or gangs. Hip-Hop talked about reality, and in California the gang scene was reality, so they talked about it.

He wasn't a gangster, he was always rapping about change and how black people should unite instead of killing each other. Changes is a perfect example of Pac's attitude towards gangs. On the other hand he accepted what was going on because he understood that some people didn't have a choice, it was either selling drugs or poverty for alot of people. He didn't ruin anything which is why his inspirational lyrics and his philosophy still live on today.

He wasn't a saint or a god, but in the eyes of people who were struggling every day to survive, he certainly was.

QUOTE (Tupac Shakur)
“The same crime element that white people are scared of black people are scared of. While they waiting for legislation to pass, we next door to the killer. All them killers they let out, they're right in that building, 'cause we up in the projects. Just because we black, we get along with the killers? What is that? We need protection too!”

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Does that sound like he promotes violence and crime? Or 'followed along with it'.

I know what you're saying. I actually agree with you that the message gets lost somewhere when these rappers rap about selling drugs or gang activity.

The problem I have with these rappers is that they make it seem like they have no choice but to be stuck in the hood. No, there are ways of getting out of there, but they're just giving lousy excuses to justify gang affiliation and committing crimes. Many blacks would whine all day about whites and even antagonize them, and they even became racists as the result of so much negativity against whites. They became exactly what they preached against. They created the Black Panther Party, which is pretty much the black version of the KKK. It got to the point where they were so damn stupid enough to break down every single grocery or convenience store they suspected of being owned by Koreans just because ONE Korean convenience store worker shot a black girl dead. Know what I mean? All I see is stupidity.

Watch Boyz n the Hood and see that you CAN make it out of the hood without having to resort to crime. Blacks stuck in the hood blame whites way too much instead of even trying to get out. Hell, nowadays, it's some sort of trend to be in the hood. They think they're "hard" for being part of the ghetto or whatever.

Acting like completely ignorant outlaws just because you're stereotyped to be like that? That's completely stupid. All I see are dumbasses who think they're cool just for being in jail and being in the hood.

Typical example:
"Yo, nigga. I got more street cred than you 'cause I stayed in the penitentiary for twenty years and dropped outta school at the age of one, but your ass sucked the white man's dick by going to Harvard."

Tupac in "California Love":
"Out on bail fresh outta jail, California dreamin'"

I told you so.

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Tupac has had changes in his career as others have, it's rather obvious to me, it's forgivable but not undeniable as I see it
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QUOTE (Allen14n @ Friday, Apr 27 2012, 04:58)
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You clearly don't know what your talking about. Firstly, gangster rap wasn't glorifying or encouraging black on black crime or gangs. Hip-Hop talked about reality, and in California the gang scene was reality, so they talked about it.

He wasn't a gangster, he was always rapping about change and how black people should unite instead of killing each other. Changes is a perfect example of Pac's attitude towards gangs. On the other hand he accepted what was going on because he understood that some people didn't have a choice, it was either selling drugs or poverty for alot of people. He didn't ruin anything which is why his inspirational lyrics and his philosophy still live on today.

He wasn't a saint or a god, but in the eyes of people who were struggling every day to survive, he certainly was.

QUOTE (Tupac Shakur)
“The same crime element that white people are scared of black people are scared of. While they waiting for legislation to pass, we next door to the killer. All them killers they let out, they're right in that building, 'cause we up in the projects. Just because we black, we get along with the killers? What is that? We need protection too!”

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Does that sound like he promotes violence and crime? Or 'followed along with it'.

I know what you're saying. I actually agree with you that the message gets lost somewhere when these rappers rap about selling drugs or gang activity.

The problem I have with these rappers is that they make it seem like they have no choice but to be stuck in the hood. No, there are ways of getting out of there, but they're just giving lousy excuses to justify gang affiliation and committing crimes.

Watch Boyz n the Hood and see that you CAN make it out of the hood without having to resort to crime. Blacks stuck in the hood blame whites way too much instead of even trying to get out. Hell, nowadays, it's some sort of trend to be in the hood. They think they're "hard" for being part of the ghetto or whatever

Allen if you are a rapper you have already found an alternative to crime suicidal.gif and living in the ghetto.

By the way that's a movie, real life is very different when you are stuck, your petty whining about school ia nothing like what these people endure.

You say there always alternatives... why don't you leave school and become a garbage man and stop whining.
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QUOTE (finn4life @ Thursday, Apr 26 2012, 22:31)
QUOTE (Allen14n @ Friday, Apr 27 2012, 04:58)
QUOTE (SmC12 @ Thursday, Apr 26 2012, 17:00)
You clearly don't know what your talking about. Firstly, gangster rap wasn't glorifying or encouraging black on black crime or gangs. Hip-Hop talked about reality, and in California the gang scene was reality, so they talked about it.

He wasn't a gangster, he was always rapping about change and how black people should unite instead of killing each other. Changes is a perfect example of Pac's attitude towards gangs. On the other hand he accepted what was going on because he understood that some people didn't have a choice, it was either selling drugs or poverty for alot of people. He didn't ruin anything which is why his inspirational lyrics and his philosophy still live on today.

He wasn't a saint or a god, but in the eyes of people who were struggling every day to survive, he certainly was.

QUOTE (Tupac Shakur)
“The same crime element that white people are scared of black people are scared of. While they waiting for legislation to pass, we next door to the killer. All them killers they let out, they're right in that building, 'cause we up in the projects. Just because we black, we get along with the killers? What is that? We need protection too!”

-Source

Does that sound like he promotes violence and crime? Or 'followed along with it'.

I know what you're saying. I actually agree with you that the message gets lost somewhere when these rappers rap about selling drugs or gang activity.

The problem I have with these rappers is that they make it seem like they have no choice but to be stuck in the hood. No, there are ways of getting out of there, but they're just giving lousy excuses to justify gang affiliation and committing crimes.

Watch Boyz n the Hood and see that you CAN make it out of the hood without having to resort to crime. Blacks stuck in the hood blame whites way too much instead of even trying to get out. Hell, nowadays, it's some sort of trend to be in the hood. They think they're "hard" for being part of the ghetto or whatever

Allen if you are a rapper you have already found an alternative to crime suicidal.gif and living in the ghetto.

By the way that's a movie, real life is very different when you are stuck, your petty whining about school ia nothing like what these people endure.

You say there always alternatives... why don't you leave school and become a garbage man and stop whining.

Did I ever blatantly state my frustration in school is more than what these people endure? I'm saying these people need to realize they have much more potential in them than to just stay as drug dealers and thieves. Slavery is over. Blaming the white man is like hating all Germans just because a German killed one of your ancestors one thousand years ago. I don't see why they can't unite the hood to make it out of poverty. They do have access to a free education. Becoming a criminal and blaming it on your lack of money is what lazy people do, yet they still complain.
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QUOTE (Allen14n @ Friday, Apr 27 2012, 16:32)
Did I ever blatantly state my frustration in school is more than what these people endure? I'm saying these people need to realize they have much more potential in them than to just stay as drug dealers and thieves. Slavery is over. Blaming the white man is like hating all Germans just because a German killed one of your ancestors one thousand years ago. I don't see why they can't unite the hood to make it out of poverty. They do have access to a free education. Becoming a criminal and blaming it on your lack of money is what lazy people do, yet they still complain.

Yes, getting everyone to unite is as easy as that allen just say the word and it shall be done.
To be honest i don't really think there are many black people blaming whites but whatever.

Yeah sure they have a free education but many of them don't have any food or money, if you have no food or money and it's either school and starve or go out and steal things for money what would you do?
The schools in those areas are incredibly underfunded and many of the teachers (From what i have heard) just don't give a sh*t.

If these people have no education because they could not go to school if they wanted to survive getting a job is pretty damn hard, hell even educated people can't get jobs in the US at the moment, they end up as criminals and can't really see a way out of it.a

It's a bad cycle and you dismiss it like it's 100% their own fault, It started with a few broke poor parents and then they raise their kids with nothing and what i mentioned above ends up occurring.
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Free education may be all well and good but it's really not. Discrimination is still a big factor in society which prevents many ethnic minorities from reaching the sucess they should. In the USA Blacks are among the lowest achievers in schools with some of the highest drop-out rates. Schools which have majortiy ethnic minority students are very poorly run and understaffed. It's not intentional discrimination, but generally the way things work out ethnics always seem to be treated worse than Whites. You're right that there's no slavery and civil rights are fair, everyone, no matter their background, has the chance to be successful. But it's not easy. The poverty comes from past generations who lived in poverty, so their children are born into an environment where they have low living standards, unemployment and poor education. The process repeats itself with each child who is born into the poverty cycle. Social and economic inequalities still very much exist for ethnic minority groups in the USA. People do hold grudges, they were treated ridicuously unfairly in the past, and it's not perfect still. There's many people out there who want rid of immigrants, xenophobic and racist attitudes are still a problem. Your overlooking all the problems and thinking that just because we're past all the civil rights movements and slavery that everything is easy now, it's not.

Affirmative Action Programmes were supposed to create equality in employment and education, and to some extend they were successful. Many people got into colleges and universities when they would otherwise have lost the place to a more qualified and most likely white student. However despite running AAPs for more than two decades it still hasn't created an ideal and tolerent society. Also you seem to forget that Blacks are extremely underepresented in the goverment. Recently of course Obama has made a historic move forward in terms of representation, but Congress has very, very few Black or ethnic representatives. That deters people from supporting the government because they don't represent the views of the Black community, many have no voice. So the desire to achieve a good education and be successful is gone because very few role models are in that position. Rap atrists are their role models, and before the rappers it was the drug dealers. It's a pretty simple concept and for an american I thought you'd understand the difficulties more than I do.

This, what finn has said, and what I said in my previous posts are all contributing factors which influence people to become involved in crime. If Hip-Hop didn't exist, almost all rappers would be involved in illegal activities. Hip-Hop is essential because it takes people out of that and into something positive. Hip-Hop has changed more things for the better than the average politician, it's covered every historic event, it's created history itself such as Zulu nation and other huge movements. It has created unity and improved the situation for many people. It's a positive thing, just because some of them are criminals doesn't make it any less relevant. Don't be fooled by the lyrics talking about gangs and drugs, think of it as a documentary, they're telling you the truth about what's going on - rappers give a voice to people who otherwise wouldn't have one. That's an amazing thing.

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Dr. Dre has stated that there are no current plans to use the Tupac hologram in any future concerts, and there will be no tour involving the hologram. I'm glad about that to be honest. I don't want to see this as a regular thing. It was an amazing suprise but it's over and we shouldn't be pretending to bring people back as an alternative to paying real tributes and remembering them.
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QUOTE (finn4life @ Friday, Apr 27 2012, 07:00)
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Did I ever blatantly state my frustration in school is more than what these people endure? I'm saying these people need to realize they have much more potential in them than to just stay as drug dealers and thieves. Slavery is over. Blaming the white man is like hating all Germans just because a German killed one of your ancestors one thousand years ago. I don't see why they can't unite the hood to make it out of poverty. They do have access to a free education. Becoming a criminal and blaming it on your lack of money is what lazy people do, yet they still complain.

Yes, getting everyone to unite is as easy as that allen just say the word and it shall be done.
To be honest i don't really think there are many black people blaming whites but whatever.

Yeah sure they have a free education but many of them don't have any food or money, if you have no food or money and it's either school and starve or go out and steal things for money what would you do?
The schools in those areas are incredibly underfunded and many of the teachers (From what i have heard) just don't give a sh*t.

If these people have no education because they could not go to school if they wanted to survive getting a job is pretty damn hard, hell even educated people can't get jobs in the US at the moment, they end up as criminals and can't really see a way out of it.a

It's a bad cycle and you dismiss it like it's 100% their own fault, It started with a few broke poor parents and then they raise their kids with nothing and what i mentioned above ends up occurring.

There are clearly stupid dumbasses who blame whites for their misery. Even some famous rappers who claim to be millionaires still do that. These rappers think can act like assholes just because they're stereotyped that way; they think they can act like that because they came from the hood. It's stupid as f*ck because they claim to have millions in their accounts.

What's all the gang warfare for? Just because of stupid idea that wearing blue looks better than wearing red? Hell, these dumbasses don't even know why they're killing. Lots of them complain about racial hate crimes even if the cases aren't even racial. Why not focus on fixing the problem of black-on-black crime? Why don't all these "black leaders" speak out about that? Why do they scream "racism" every time there's any kind of offense to blacks, although it's not even racial? In other words, some blacks immediately blame whites for their misery even when whites have nothing to do with it. Your ancestor from TWO HUNDRED years ago got raped by a white man. Is that a logical excuse to act like an idiot?

If this sh*t continues, we're gonna see black immigrants from Kenya come over and falsely believe that they immediately have the right to commit crimes and blame whites. Thus, many blacks who complain about racism from whites are RACISTS themselves. The New Black Panther Party is a prime example of a bunch of racist blacks. They're a bunch of hypocrites.

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http://www.westernjournalism.com/anderson-...r-party-racism/

Innocent people are going to get killed because of these motherf*ckers.

Let's be honest about it. Maybe if more blacks started promoting positivity instead of all this negative sh*t about how white people are responsible, maybe young black men and women from the hood would be less obliged to commit crimes. Maybe they would rather seek success by actually putting in the effort to educate themselves properly and search for work. Some dickheads out there even use going to jail, murdering people, and being in the hood as bragging rights. How stupid is that? These people are f*cking dumbasses. There's no sugarcoating it.
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QUOTE (Allen14n @ Friday, Apr 27 2012, 19:53)
What's all the gang warfare for? Just because of stupid idea that wearing blue looks better than wearing red? Hell, these dumbasses don't even know why they're killing. Lots of them complain about racial hate crimes even if the cases aren't even racial. Why not focus on fixing the problem of black-on-black crime? Why don't all these "black leaders" speak out about that? Why do they scream "racism" every time there's any kind of offense to blacks, although it's not even racial? In other words, some blacks immediately blame whites for their misery even when whites have nothing to do with it. Your ancestor from TWO HUNDRED years ago got raped by a white man. Is that a logical excuse to act like an idiot?

Allen, what the hell are you talking about? Seriously. Gangs were created as 'social groups'. There was tensions in communities, a huge racism problem, especially from the police. It was all about strength in numbers. The police weren't protecting them, and former officers from LA Gang Units fully agree. So the gangs were the protection. Things escalated and there was rivalries, like normal teenagers people would fight, and then guns started being brought into the situation, and suddenly killing became much easier and this caused a seperation into rival groups. The founders of the Bloods and Crips didn't agree with the drive-bys and shootouts. It wasn't just "Blue vs Red", it was Blue vs Blue and Red vs Red, people were just killing anyone. Then crack came out in the 80's and poor communities were completely destroyed even more by it. The gang members dealt drugs instead of murdering people, they could make $10,000 in a week through selling drugs. So huge operations were set up and everyone was batteling to be the biggest dealers and get the most money. It reduced the violence a little. However, then the controversial Rodney King trial enraged people in the black community, so they tore sh*t up. After decades of being beaten, killed, and discriminated by whites the tension and pressure was high, so the attitude against whites during that time was very negative.

On the other hand, the riots knocked sense into a lot of people, they were killing and damaging their own communities. Bloods and Crips became more connected and even formed truces, people stopped with the killings and the drugs (for the most part, it still happens, but only very few participate). Like I already dicussed you had 'gangsta rap' which came out and documented what was going on, and spread it around, and yes it did glorify the culture, but it did a huge amount of good. What you seem to pick up is some retarded idea that the situation is still like this, because rappers still talk about it. Many former gang leaders are now community activists, people from the 60's Watts Riots and Rodney King riots who were part of the bloods or crips have completely left the gang culture and work to help other gang members escape.

The people who run around glorifying gangs and trying to act hard are WHITE people. Those who saw Snoop Dogg doing the Crip Walk on a music video or talking about gangs and now they go around dressed in blue and acting hard. You have more white, asian and hispanic blood and crip gangs than you do black. The naive people who believe everything. It's now fake gangsters who get the wrong impression from Hip-Hop and think that gangbanging is cool and it's freedom, whereas the leaders of those gangs have left that life and regret everything, and work to make better communities. The crime rate and gang violence in LA hasn't risen to the extent seen in the 60's and 80's since.

So I ask again, what the hell are you talking about? Why am I giving you a history lesson on something you should have researched before making points like that?

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QUOTE (Allen14n @ Friday, Apr 27 2012, 19:53)
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QUOTE (Allen14n @ Friday, Apr 27 2012, 16:32)
Did I ever blatantly state my frustration in school is more than what these people endure? I'm saying these people need to realize they have much more potential in them than to just stay as drug dealers and thieves. Slavery is over. Blaming the white man is like hating all Germans just because a German killed one of your ancestors one thousand years ago. I don't see why they can't unite the hood to make it out of poverty. They do have access to a free education. Becoming a criminal and blaming it on your lack of money is what lazy people do, yet they still complain.

Yes, getting everyone to unite is as easy as that allen just say the word and it shall be done.
To be honest i don't really think there are many black people blaming whites but whatever.

Yeah sure they have a free education but many of them don't have any food or money, if you have no food or money and it's either school and starve or go out and steal things for money what would you do?
The schools in those areas are incredibly underfunded and many of the teachers (From what i have heard) just don't give a sh*t.

If these people have no education because they could not go to school if they wanted to survive getting a job is pretty damn hard, hell even educated people can't get jobs in the US at the moment, they end up as criminals and can't really see a way out of it.a

It's a bad cycle and you dismiss it like it's 100% their own fault, It started with a few broke poor parents and then they raise their kids with nothing and what i mentioned above ends up occurring.

There are clearly stupid dumbasses who blame whites for their misery. Even some famous rappers who claim to be millionaires still do that. These rappers think can act like assholes just because they're stereotyped that way; they think they can act like that because they came from the hood. It's stupid as f*ck because they claim to have millions in their accounts.

What's all the gang warfare for? Just because of stupid idea that wearing blue looks better than wearing red? Hell, these dumbasses don't even know why they're killing. Lots of them complain about racial hate crimes even if the cases aren't even racial. Why not focus on fixing the problem of black-on-black crime? Why don't all these "black leaders" speak out about that? Why do they scream "racism" every time there's any kind of offense to blacks, although it's not even racial? In other words, some blacks immediately blame whites for their misery even when whites have nothing to do with it. Your ancestor from TWO HUNDRED years ago got raped by a white man. Is that a logical excuse to act like an idiot?

If this sh*t continues, we're gonna see black immigrants from Kenya come over and falsely believe that they immediately have the right to commit crimes and blame whites. Thus, many blacks who complain about racism from whites are RACISTS themselves. The New Black Panther Party is a prime example of a bunch of racist blacks. They're a bunch of hypocrites.

Want links?
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/new-black-...ackers-comment/
http://www.westernjournalism.com/anderson-...r-party-racism/

Innocent people are going to get killed because of these motherf*ckers.

Let's be honest about it. Maybe if more blacks started promoting positivity instead of all this negative sh*t about how white people are responsible, maybe young black men and women from the hood would be less obliged to commit crimes. Maybe they would rather seek success by actually putting in the effort to educate themselves properly and search for work. Some dickheads out there even use going to jail, murdering people, and being in the hood as bragging rights. How stupid is that? These people are f*cking dumbasses. There's no sugarcoating it.

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Wow, your entire post screams racism. Maybe it's just me. How kind of you to do so in the tupac hologram topic. icon13.gif
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