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El_Diablo  |
Posted: Thursday, Apr 5 2012, 18:25
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"The_Devil"

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St Louis Cardinals are my home team (even though I work in Denver right now) so this should be an incredibly interesting season. obviously we lost Pujols but I don't think we need him. last year was his worst season - statistically - of his entire career, we didn't have Adam Wainright, and we still won the World Series. now Wainright is back with Chris Carpenter in the starting rotation, we have a stronger bullpen, and we attained stronger defense up the middle. Pujols was inconsistent at best last year and it still didn't stop us from winding up on top of the baseball world. with the emergence of David Freese, the resurgence of Lance Berkman, and the stability of Carlos Beltran and Matt Holiday I don't see how we miss the post-season; let alone make another run at the championship. and we started off on the right note. MLB opened the season (in the US...) with the Cardinals taking on Miami in their brand new stadium. we took a no-hitter into the 7th before winning on what was supposed to be the Marlins night, effectively cursing their new ballpark with a grand opening loss go Cards! best team in baseball.
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hambones  |
Posted: Thursday, Apr 5 2012, 21:16
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Every Inch A King

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El_Diablo  |
Posted: Thursday, Apr 5 2012, 21:58
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"The_Devil"

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| QUOTE (hambones @ Thursday, Apr 5 2012, 14:16) | | the Cubs |

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StoneHead37  |
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≡D≡ 1st Lieutenant

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With the sluggers the Yankees possess, they should be better than 19-14. Frankly, they should be 29-4 with their lineup consisting of Jeter, A-Rod, Teixeira, Cano, Granderson, Swisher and so on, but that's besides the point. I swear, this team only hits when they want. If just two of any of those six guys I've just mentioned were hot, they'd win 7 or 8 games out of 10. Instead, Jeter will get a lead-off double, but the next three are unable to get him to score. I know Teixiera usually starts his seasons off slow, but he really needs to wake up and start belting those balls over the wall. I'm a Yankee fan to end, but not when they're behind the Orioles record-wise.
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darthYENIK  |
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It's not the member title I need, it's the one I want.

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| QUOTE (El_Diablo @ Thursday, May 10 2012, 17:16) | historic drought.
people in St. Louis are still laughing. | The whole f*cking world is laughing. The Angels are a god damned joke. Every game the lineup is different, regardless of how well they might have played the game before. The fact that Wells is in the line-up when Bourjos or Trumbo or Morales is not is ridiculous. The bullpen consists of maybe two pitchers who actually have the ability to get three outs in a row, the rest couldn't get out of an inning without at least giving up one run to save their lives. And then there's Albert f*cking Pujols. If Pujols was the only problem, I'd be happy. I'll say this though, the starting rotation is still pretty good, but you can't win games on pitching alone, and even the best have sh*tty nights, like tonight. I'm admitting it. I was blinded by Pujols. Its been so long since they've had a GM that actually did something in the off season, that I forgot about all the other sh*t the Angels had to deal with last year. And they're still there. Anyway, Hamilton is a f*cking beast.
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Big Slow  |
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Fingerbanger

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To give Pujols the slightest bit of credit, he jumped ship from the National League to the American League. That's basically taking 11 years of dealing with a certain set of teams and pitchers, and throwing it out of the window. Personally, I've always thought American League pitching was superior anyway, so couple that with having to face a ton of pitchers you've never faced before is a daunting task. Now, he was regarded as the best hitter in the game, so if that was true, he'd have made more adjustments by now. A lot of hitters who go to different teams with big contracts don't tend to get going for awhile (recently: Fielder, Jose Reyes, Adam Dunn to name a few).
I say we have to give him at least half a season to get adjusted. If he plays this way longer than that, then he deserves the criticism he's receiving now. Unfortunately, with a contract as big as the one he got, it's difficult to give him that amount of time.
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El_Diablo  |
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"The_Devil"

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| QUOTE (Big Slow @ Sunday, May 13 2012, 20:50) | | To give Pujols the slightest bit of credit, he jumped ship from the National League to the American League. That's basically taking 11 years of dealing with a certain set of teams and pitchers, and throwing it out of the window. |
everyone recognizes this. no one is denying it. the point is that it only ADDS to his humiliation. because it shows that he just made a really stupid decision. he never should have left St. Louis. he had every reason to stay and not a single good reason to leave. the final deal that STL offered him was only about 5 million dollars per-year less than he's making now in LA. so it wasn't about the money. STL gave him 2 world series championships in just 10 years. most players do not get 1 in 30 years. STL gave him every reason to believe that they would always be contenders and always have a shot at more championships. STL deified him. they were ready to build a golden statue of him larger than Stan Musial's. he could do no wrong in STL. there was no pressure. there was nothing but love and support. he threw it all away. for what? I cannot figure out.
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Big Slow  |
Posted: Tuesday, May 15 2012, 00:35
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Fingerbanger

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| QUOTE (El_Diablo @ Monday, May 14 2012, 00:10) | | QUOTE (Big Slow @ Sunday, May 13 2012, 20:50) | | To give Pujols the slightest bit of credit, he jumped ship from the National League to the American League. That's basically taking 11 years of dealing with a certain set of teams and pitchers, and throwing it out of the window. |
everyone recognizes this. no one is denying it.
the point is that it only ADDS to his humiliation. because it shows that he just made a really stupid decision. he never should have left St. Louis. he had every reason to stay and not a single good reason to leave.
the final deal that STL offered him was only about 5 million dollars per-year less than he's making now in LA. so it wasn't about the money. STL gave him 2 world series championships in just 10 years. most players do not get 1 in 30 years. STL gave him every reason to believe that they would always be contenders and always have a shot at more championships. STL deified him. they were ready to build a golden statue of him larger than Stan Musial's.
he could do no wrong in STL. there was no pressure. there was nothing but love and support.
he threw it all away. for what? I cannot figure out. |
I completely agree with you. He should have stayed in STL. Maybe winning two championships in such a short amount of time gave him reason to find a bigger challenge, though I suspect it was likely the bigger paycheck. Pujols and his wife have both stated the reason he left was because STL only offered him a 5 year $150 million deal, instead of a long term 10 year deal like he got with the Angels. I can understand feeling slighted, but to leave a situation like that when you can re-negotiate another deal down the line? How much money do you really need? Even Jered Weaver re-signed with the Angels rather than test free agency because the Angels offered him a good deal and he realized there's only so much money people can give you before it becomes frivolous. I still think he's going to come around at some point, and this will all blow over, but he's going to have to take the negative criticism until then.
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darthYENIK  |
Posted: Tuesday, May 15 2012, 06:08
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It's not the member title I need, it's the one I want.

Group: Andolini Mafia Family
Joined: Sep 28, 2002


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| QUOTE (Big Slow @ Monday, May 14 2012, 16:35) | | QUOTE (El_Diablo @ Monday, May 14 2012, 00:10) | | QUOTE (Big Slow @ Sunday, May 13 2012, 20:50) | | To give Pujols the slightest bit of credit, he jumped ship from the National League to the American League. That's basically taking 11 years of dealing with a certain set of teams and pitchers, and throwing it out of the window. |
everyone recognizes this. no one is denying it.
the point is that it only ADDS to his humiliation. because it shows that he just made a really stupid decision. he never should have left St. Louis. he had every reason to stay and not a single good reason to leave.
the final deal that STL offered him was only about 5 million dollars per-year less than he's making now in LA. so it wasn't about the money. STL gave him 2 world series championships in just 10 years. most players do not get 1 in 30 years. STL gave him every reason to believe that they would always be contenders and always have a shot at more championships. STL deified him. they were ready to build a golden statue of him larger than Stan Musial's.
he could do no wrong in STL. there was no pressure. there was nothing but love and support.
he threw it all away. for what? I cannot figure out. |
I completely agree with you. He should have stayed in STL. Maybe winning two championships in such a short amount of time gave him reason to find a bigger challenge, though I suspect it was likely the bigger paycheck. Pujols and his wife have both stated the reason he left was because STL only offered him a 5 year $150 million deal, instead of a long term 10 year deal like he got with the Angels. I can understand feeling slighted, but to leave a situation like that when you can re-negotiate another deal down the line? How much money do you really need? Even Jered Weaver re-signed with the Angels rather than test free agency because the Angels offered him a good deal and he realized there's only so much money people can give you before it becomes frivolous.
I still think he's going to come around at some point, and this will all blow over, but he's going to have to take the negative criticism until then. | That was only part of the reason Jered Weaver stayed in Anaheim. The bigger part I'd say is that he's comfortable playing and living a short drive from where he grew up and where his parents and family live. Free agency would have probably had him signing in the east, or maybe he would have stayed in Anaheim, but he would have cost them a lot more. He likes where he is, and it's not like he is too underpaid. Pujols probably should have done the same. Sure he's not from St Louis, but he's been there long enough. Hell if that happened the Angels might have went after Fielder instead. And we'd all be happier. Oh well, if "ifs" and "buts" were candy and nuts and all that.
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