[Slamman]

Nice work there, it'll probably load on a 56K, since it's not HD stretching the page imagery
I checked the prior last link I found, this site is worth a bookmark as well, I don't have a blank USB thumb at present, but I'm going to do the same thing and prep it to hold Windows install files! It will work for Netbooks and perhaps some Ultrabooks as well

http://wintoflash.com/home/en/

[hristobg]

Thank you very much for your help, but still I can't figute out how to use both CD-ROM and HDD. Maybe it will work if I use a USB flash drive for that ISO, fdisk and format C:\ with it and then, if possible, to turn off the PC and put the HDD back in its old case in which CD-ROM and HDD work both properly. And from there to copy the Windows 98 files.



Thank you very much again, though.

[Stinky12]

When Win98 was available, USB boot never exist, so don't bother with that.

Some info on IDE...

QUOTE (wiki)

Multiple devices on a cable If two devices are attached to a single cable, one must be designated as device 0 (commonly referred to as master) and the other as device 1 (slave). This distinction is necessary to allow both drives to share the cable without conflict. The master drive is the drive that usually appears "first" to the computer's BIOS and/or operating system. On old BIOSes (Intel 486 era and older), the drives are often referred to by the BIOS as "C" for the master and "D" for the slave following the way DOS would refer to the active primary partitions on each. The mode that a drive must use is often set by a jumper setting on the drive itself, which must be manually set to master or slave. If there is a single device on a cable, it should be configured as master. However, some hard drives have a special setting called single for this configuration (Western Digital, in particular). Also, depending on the hardware and software available, a single drive on a cable will often work reliably even though configured as the slave drive (most often seen where a CD ROM has a channel to itself).

You will also make sure in the bios, none of the drives are turned off.

[hristobg]

But I didn't understand how I would tell them which one to be a 0 device and which 1. Should be the HDD a "master"?

[Stinky12]

Yes, hard drives are usually set as Master while the CD-ROM are set as slave.

[Wolf68k]

I thought want he wanted to do with the USB stick was to make it like what you need a boot floppy for, to boot from and then install 98.
That's what I would do.
Win98 doesn't need to know or care that the boot floppy was really a USB stick.

[Stinky12]

I believe he's preparing the HDD on his new computer, which will support USB boot. On that old Pentium one. I doubt he can boot from USB.

[hristobg]

QUOTE (Stinky12 @ Wednesday, Apr 4 2012, 18:32)

I believe he's preparing the HDD on his new computer, which will support USB boot. On that old Pentium one. I doubt he can boot from USB.

Yes, that's exactly what I am trying to do. But now I'm experiencing problems with defining which drive (HDD or CD-ROM) to be master and which slave. It just can't use both, as it seems. There is an auto and manual mode to find the hardware, connected to the IDE cable, but both are trying to be "masters".



Up the above I put the CD-ROM,
Below is the HDD,
And down at the bottom is the Motherboard.

This post has been edited by hristobg on Wednesday, Apr 4 2012, 18:56

[Stinky12]

http://support.gateway.com/support/manlib/...73/08673c04.htm

[hristobg]

Tried it, switched them - on the end of the cable is HDD and in the middle is CD-ROM, but still the same.

[Stinky12]

Set the drive connected to the first connector as Master, the 2nd as Slave.
In bios set as Auto. BTW, is your new computer a Dell?

[hristobg]

Nope, if you talk about the PC case - it is delux. And it's not that new, just newer than the other one.

[Slamman]

The case name is not that effective, really, what you should have for all your HDD setups that you use and refer to is a software detective tool like Siv, PCWizard, Speccy, Everest, even running DX Diagnostic from the RUN menu can tell you DX driver reports and a system synopsis.
Windows allows this DX feature from all Windows supporting DirectX, which is quite a few! haha

Also, type DXDIAG in the Run command prompt (in the old START menu, no longer in Windows 8)
If you are setting your jumpers, start out using them in Select Cable for any and all, in the My Computer, add DMA for any you plan to use for multimedia access, that works better when in use
SC is very common for allowing the computer an auto-pilot directive in drive ordering

This post has been edited by Slamman on Wednesday, Apr 4 2012, 23:39

[Stinky12]

QUOTE (hristobg @ Wednesday, Apr 4 2012, 19:28)

Nope, if you talk about the PC case - it is delux. And it's not that new, just newer than the other one.

So you got it working yet?

[hristobg]

I'm starting to give up, I should better take it to some PC service and pay 20 bucks. It's been a week and I still can't find anything that helps.

[Stinky12]

Just curious, you ever actually pay attention to the back side of your IDE drives?
If you have, you'll notice your problems.

[hristobg]

Yes, of course. And how would I notice them? There is just a place for IDE cable, a power cable and 2 other ports that I don't know for what they are. So far, for one week my PC case is opened and I didn't notice my problems.

[Stinky12]

As Rafiki said to Simba while he was looking at his reflection, look harder...
You check out that Gateway support link, no?

[hristobg]

Is there something to be checked on? There is not a single cable from the PCU like that. I don't get what you mean.

[Stinky12]

Yes, that Gateway support link maybe your answer to your problems.
http://support.gateway.com/support/manlib/...73/08673c04.htm
You really have to remove the IDE CD-ROM out of your case to actually see what I'm talking about.

This post has been edited by Stinky12 on Thursday, Apr 5 2012, 22:05