[Method]

Maybe "Jerry" is protagonist...?

"Why did I move here? I guess it was the weather. Or the, I don't know, that thing, the magic. You see it in the movies. I wanted to retire from what I was doing you know. From that, that line of work. Be a good guy for once, be a family man. So I bought a big house. Came here, put my feet up and thought I'd be a dad like all the other dads. My kids would be like the kids on TV, we'd play ball and sit in the sun. But well, you know how it is."

In MY opinion, it sound's like he's talking about the economy and he quickly lose's his house with force's him onto the street's which would explain why he he's seen homeless...

This is probably not the case; but it make's just as much sense to me as Ned being the protagonist...

[The_anti_zee]

can someone please explain to me how the guy driving the red car looks Hispanic?, make fun of me all you want, call me a troll, But I just don't see how he looks hispanic...

[interpolfan11]

QUOTE (The_anti_zee @ Wednesday, Apr 11 2012, 20:50)

can someone please explain to me how the guy driving the red car looks Hispanic?, make fun of me all you want, call me a troll, But I just don't see how he looks hispanic...

He clearly looks like a Hispanic to me, albeit a goofy-looking and poorly-rendered one.

[RipGore]

QUOTE (Gtaghost22 @ Monday, Mar 12 2012, 18:52)

QUOTE (DizzeeXL @ Monday, Mar 12 2012, 18:40) NONE What???

hes dizzy in the head

[Miamivicecity]

QUOTE (Dick Valor @ Thursday, Apr 12 2012, 06:03)

QUOTE (Sanjeem @ Wednesday, Apr 11 2012, 18:47) I would like the protagonist to be the Hispanic guy simply because it's hard to see a white guy roaming around the hoods killing other gang members. Not only will he look out of place but if that was real life, he'd probably get shot for being in the wrong place the instant he hit Compton You're understanding of L.A. gang culture is completely skewed. As a white person from L.A. who has driven through Compton (which is fairly tame) and Watts (a bit more intimidating, tbh), white people are the last people that are going to get shot. Gang members typically target rival gang members; not random, unaffiliated white drivers or pedestrians. On the contrary, dead white folk in the ghetto will only bring more heat on the community. If anything, Ned Luke dealing with street thugs would be fresh and provide lots of interesting culture clash since he'd be out of his element... much like Walter White in Breaking Bad. I would only like the hispanic guy to be our protagonist if he was more than a gangbanger and got out of his element as well, for example, by being a Vinewood stunt driver on the side. L.A. is about so much more than gangs, which are incredibly over-hyped with respect to violence and influence. For V, R* needs to think bigger than petty gang wars. I want to take over LS for myself, not for my gang.

I agree. I mean people say a white man having dealings with gangs in LA is far fetched, but it made perfect sense in SA for a gangbanger to overtake a mob run casino in LV or have any sort of influence?

I dont know, but the vibe I've always got from GTA V's trailer isn't one where the street gang culture is widely present. I know we haven't seen everything yet, but R* typically emphasis the general theme in the first trailer like they always have.

IMO I think heists, car chases and Vinewood will be the main themes in GTA V. I only see street gang culture being a backdrop this time around instead of putting us in the thick of it. It would be interesting playing as middle aged white man in a time where the economy has gone to sh*t.

We were exposed to gangs in SA. I think it's time we saw LA from a different perspective.

[PaddsterG2k3]

QUOTE (Miamivicecity @ Thursday, Apr 12 2012, 11:37)

QUOTE (Dick Valor @ Thursday, Apr 12 2012, 06:03) QUOTE (Sanjeem @ Wednesday, Apr 11 2012, 18:47) I would like the protagonist to be the Hispanic guy simply because it's hard to see a white guy roaming around the hoods killing other gang members. Not only will he look out of place but if that was real life, he'd probably get shot for being in the wrong place the instant he hit Compton You're understanding of L.A. gang culture is completely skewed. As a white person from L.A. who has driven through Compton (which is fairly tame) and Watts (a bit more intimidating, tbh), white people are the last people that are going to get shot. Gang members typically target rival gang members; not random, unaffiliated white drivers or pedestrians. On the contrary, dead white folk in the ghetto will only bring more heat on the community. If anything, Ned Luke dealing with street thugs would be fresh and provide lots of interesting culture clash since he'd be out of his element... much like Walter White in Breaking Bad. I would only like the hispanic guy to be our protagonist if he was more than a gangbanger and got out of his element as well, for example, by being a Vinewood stunt driver on the side. L.A. is about so much more than gangs, which are incredibly over-hyped with respect to violence and influence. For V, R* needs to think bigger than petty gang wars. I want to take over LS for myself, not for my gang. I agree. I mean people say a white man having dealings with gangs in LA is far fetched, but it made perfect sense in SA for a gangbanger to overtake a mob run casino in LV or have any sort of influence? I dont know, but the vibe I've always got from GTA V's trailer isn't one where the street gang culture is widely present. I know we haven't seen everything yet, but R* typically emphasis the general theme in the first trailer like they always have. IMO I think heists, car chases and Vinewood will be the main themes in GTA V. I only see street gang culture being a backdrop this time around instead of putting us in the thick of it. It would be interesting playing as middle aged white man in a time where the economy has gone to sh*t. We were exposed to gangs in SA. I think it's time we saw LA from a different perspective.

Yeah - I doubt Rockstar will repeat the same route regarding the heavy influence of Street Gangs this time around. What I mean by this is I doubt the protagonist would be affiliated or heavily involved with a street gang. The Ned Luke character gives more of a Reservoir Dogs , solo, professional criminal, bank robber-type vibe.

However, I see no reason why he wouldn't end up becoming involved in some way with the many gangs of LS - LS being LA, he simply has to.

Hopefully it'd be more like III in the sense that the protagonist is involved with all the gangs, including the street gangs. I was a bit disappointed that Niko didn't have really dealings with M.O.B or the Spanish Lords for example in IV.

[Knife]

It's really not hard to imagine a plot-line where our protagonist gets to know a gang member and earns him and his gang-members respect. Add in plenty of paranoia about him being a cop and other mistrust that is resolved through our protagonist proving himself and you've got a realistic relationship.

With the more realistic approach, a gangbanger character would have a very limited scope. It'd be like San Andreas but never getting out of Los Santos, only doing missions for the gang. A protagonist who's in it for himself is open to a far wider array of activities that he could be interested in, especially if the main goal is money.

[D-man7]

Even though the evidence is pointing towards Ned Luke(old guy)

An old guy would seem to restricting in what he could do,

Imagine working him out and getting him buffed up or fat with wacky clothes on? It would go against the characters personailty most likely.

If customisation is going to return like it was in GTA:SA, the character cant be to rigid otherwise it would make him less believable as a character and that would effect the story.

I have a horrible feeling there will only be clothes customisation in the game like GTA4 and RDR, because in those two games the emphases was on the story of the character, and R* wont want players to change there characters to much because it will detract from the characters personality.

[Knife]

QUOTE (D-man7 @ Thursday, Apr 12 2012, 12:07)

I have a horrible feeling there will only be clothes customisation in the game like GTA4 and RDR, because in those two games the emphases was on the story of the character, and R* wont want players to change there characters to much because it will detract from the characters personality.

Rockstar hopefully has found the right middle ground. You should be able to choose from hundreds of clothing options and none of them make the character look stupid. A real person has a bunch of stuff in their wardrobe, so there's no reason to restrict how customisable his clothing is. I can see the balcony guy suiting a bunch of different clothing. But giving the guy a bright pink suit or a mohawk isn't going to happen (I don't foresee a return of haircuts or tattoos).

[Official General]

@ Miami

CJ did not overtake or influence any mob-run casino in Las Venturas. The most CJ did was plan, organize and execute a major robbery of a mob-run casino, which is very plausible for any kind of criminal to do, regardless of whatever their race, ethnicity, crime group or gang. And bear in mind, CJ had a great deal of help robbing the casino - he did it with help of another major criminal organization, the Triads, he did not do it all by himself. It is also important to remember that CJ was not just a gangbanger, he had long left that behind before he came back to Los Santos. Yeah, he most certainly helped Grove Street win back territories, but he was just as much an experienced freelance criminal as he was a gangbanger by the end of the story. The whole idea of San Andreas was that CJ progressed from the simple-minded, violent street gang stuff to being a sophisticated crime kingpin, it was just about him being a gangbanger.


And if street gangs do not play a significant part in GTA V, I will be greatly disappointed. I'm not saying street gangs have to be the central theme like they were in SA, but with the setting being Los Santos, street gangs HAVE TO play a significant part for V to get that real, authentic feel for an Los Angeles-based environment.

@ Paddster

I agree that kinda annoyed me a little bit. I too felt Niko did not have enough dealings with the street gangs in GTA IV. I wanted to see more involvement with Playboy X and his North Holland Hustlers and Elisabeta and her Hispanic drug-dealing crew, I felt those sections of the storyline were a bit too short. And I was hoping for some involvement with the M.O.B. and Spanish Lords, they were basically two of the biggest street gangs in the game.

This post has been edited by Official General on Thursday, Apr 12 2012, 18:11

[interpolfan11]

QUOTE (Miamivicecity @ Thursday, Apr 12 2012, 03:37)

QUOTE (Dick Valor @ Thursday, Apr 12 2012, 06:03) QUOTE (Sanjeem @ Wednesday, Apr 11 2012, 18:47) I would like the protagonist to be the Hispanic guy simply because it's hard to see a white guy roaming around the hoods killing other gang members. Not only will he look out of place but if that was real life, he'd probably get shot for being in the wrong place the instant he hit Compton You're understanding of L.A. gang culture is completely skewed. As a white person from L.A. who has driven through Compton (which is fairly tame) and Watts (a bit more intimidating, tbh), white people are the last people that are going to get shot. Gang members typically target rival gang members; not random, unaffiliated white drivers or pedestrians. On the contrary, dead white folk in the ghetto will only bring more heat on the community. If anything, Ned Luke dealing with street thugs would be fresh and provide lots of interesting culture clash since he'd be out of his element... much like Walter White in Breaking Bad. I would only like the hispanic guy to be our protagonist if he was more than a gangbanger and got out of his element as well, for example, by being a Vinewood stunt driver on the side. L.A. is about so much more than gangs, which are incredibly over-hyped with respect to violence and influence. For V, R* needs to think bigger than petty gang wars. I want to take over LS for myself, not for my gang. I agree. I mean people say a white man having dealings with gangs in LA is far fetched, but it made perfect sense in SA for a gangbanger to overtake a mob run casino in LV or have any sort of influence? I dont know, but the vibe I've always got from GTA V's trailer isn't one where the street gang culture is widely present. I know we haven't seen everything yet, but R* typically emphasis the general theme in the first trailer like they always have. IMO I think heists, car chases and Vinewood will be the main themes in GTA V. I only see street gang culture being a backdrop this time around instead of putting us in the thick of it. It would be interesting playing as middle aged white man in a time where the economy has gone to sh*t. We were exposed to gangs in SA. I think it's time we saw LA from a different perspective.

I'm not trying to deny that having a gangbanger overtake a mob-run casino in LV was unrealistic. I'm just trying to say that from a storytelling standpoint, R* has evolved from SA. The IV story is considerably deeper and more realistic than any other story in the series. To suggest that R* would suddenly move away from this trend for anything other than a side-story (a la TBoGT) is asinine.

And if the main theme of the game is heists, car chases, and Vinewood, I'll be extremely disappointed. It's highly hypocritical to insinuate that gangs are an overblown aspect of LA culture, and then suggest that the game's story will consist of the glitz and glamour of Hollywood, as that is actually the most over-publicized aspect of LA culture. Other than providing some jobs, Hollywood doesn't affect the life of the average LA resident. However, gangs certainly affect the lives of those living in the ghetto, which sadly enough is a pretty large portion of LA.

Seeing LA from a different perspective would be highly unrealistic, as this is a video game in which the protagonist commits crime and wreaks havoc. Considering that the city's crime legacy is mostly related to gangs and that most of the major crime that persists today is still caused by gangs, the protagonist, Caucasian or Hispanic, has to work with gangs almost exclusively.

And just to clear any confusion, I still think the protagonist is Ned Luke, as the evidence for him being the protagonist is just too overwhelming. I'm just interested to see how they can make interactions between him and the gangs believable.

[Official General]

QUOTE (interpolfan11 @ Thursday, Apr 12 2012, 17:51)

QUOTE (Miamivicecity @ Thursday, Apr 12 2012, 03:37) QUOTE (Dick Valor @ Thursday, Apr 12 2012, 06:03) QUOTE (Sanjeem @ Wednesday, Apr 11 2012, 18:47) I would like the protagonist to be the Hispanic guy simply because it's hard to see a white guy roaming around the hoods killing other gang members. Not only will he look out of place but if that was real life, he'd probably get shot for being in the wrong place the instant he hit Compton You're understanding of L.A. gang culture is completely skewed. As a white person from L.A. who has driven through Compton (which is fairly tame) and Watts (a bit more intimidating, tbh), white people are the last people that are going to get shot. Gang members typically target rival gang members; not random, unaffiliated white drivers or pedestrians. On the contrary, dead white folk in the ghetto will only bring more heat on the community. If anything, Ned Luke dealing with street thugs would be fresh and provide lots of interesting culture clash since he'd be out of his element... much like Walter White in Breaking Bad. I would only like the hispanic guy to be our protagonist if he was more than a gangbanger and got out of his element as well, for example, by being a Vinewood stunt driver on the side. L.A. is about so much more than gangs, which are incredibly over-hyped with respect to violence and influence. For V, R* needs to think bigger than petty gang wars. I want to take over LS for myself, not for my gang. I agree. I mean people say a white man having dealings with gangs in LA is far fetched, but it made perfect sense in SA for a gangbanger to overtake a mob run casino in LV or have any sort of influence? I dont know, but the vibe I've always got from GTA V's trailer isn't one where the street gang culture is widely present. I know we haven't seen everything yet, but R* typically emphasis the general theme in the first trailer like they always have. IMO I think heists, car chases and Vinewood will be the main themes in GTA V. I only see street gang culture being a backdrop this time around instead of putting us in the thick of it. It would be interesting playing as middle aged white man in a time where the economy has gone to sh*t. We were exposed to gangs in SA. I think it's time we saw LA from a different perspective. I'm not trying to deny that having a gangbanger overtake a mob-run casino in LV was unrealistic. I'm just trying to say that from a storytelling standpoint, R* has evolved from SA. The IV story is considerably deeper and more realistic than any other story in the series. To suggest that R* would suddenly move away from this trend for anything other than a side-story (a la TBoGT) is asinine. And if the main theme of the game is heists, car chases, and Vinewood, I'll be extremely disappointed. It's highly hypocritical to insinuate that gangs are an overblown aspect of LA culture, and then suggest that the game's story will consist of the glitz and glamour of Hollywood, as that is actually the most over-publicized aspect of LA culture. Other than providing some jobs, Hollywood doesn't affect the life of the average LA resident. However, gangs certainly affect the lives of those living in the ghetto, which sadly enough is a pretty large portion of LA. Seeing LA from a different perspective would be highly unrealistic, as this is a video game in which the protagonist commits crime and wreaks havoc. Considering that the city's crime legacy is mostly related to gangs and that most of the major crime that persists today is still caused by gangs, the protagonist, Caucasian or Hispanic, has to work with gangs almost exclusively. And just to clear any confusion, I still think the protagonist is Ned Luke, as the evidence for him being the protagonist is just too overwhelming. I'm just interested to see how they can make interactions between him and the gangs believable.

@ interpolfan

Very true and I agree with you

Although I just hope this Ned Luke guy is not the protagonist.

[Graven]

...white male, 178cm/75kg, diagnosed as an incurable psychopath.

One of the gasmask guys is the balcony guy.
Johnny Klebitz lost his damned money in narcs, 0:58.

[acmilano]

QUOTE (interpolfan11 @ Thursday, Apr 12 2012, 05:01)

QUOTE (The_anti_zee @ Wednesday, Apr 11 2012, 20:50) can someone please explain to me how the guy driving the red car looks Hispanic?, make fun of me all you want, call me a troll, But I just don't see how he looks hispanic... He clearly looks like a Hispanic to me, albeit a goofy-looking and poorly-rendered one.

He looks to me like actor David Ramsey,who got role of informer and boyfriend of Dexter sister in Dexter TV show:

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0708981/

Still think that Balcony guy is main protagonist,but this guy could be another protagonist,or important character like Packie or Little Jacob in IV.

[Zeichef]

QUOTE (acmilano @ Thursday, Apr 12 2012, 19:03)

QUOTE (interpolfan11 @ Thursday, Apr 12 2012, 05:01) QUOTE (The_anti_zee @ Wednesday, Apr 11 2012, 20:50) can someone please explain to me how the guy driving the red car looks Hispanic?, make fun of me all you want, call me a troll, But I just don't see how he looks hispanic... He clearly looks like a Hispanic to me, albeit a goofy-looking and poorly-rendered one. He looks to me like actor David Ramsey,who got role of informer and boyfriend of Dexter sister in Dexter TV show: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0708981/ Still think that Balcony guy is main protagonist,but this guy could be another protagonist,or important character like Packie or Little Jacob in IV.

Holy sh*t he does look like him...

[interpolfan11]

QUOTE (Zeichef @ Thursday, Apr 12 2012, 13:48)

QUOTE (acmilano @ Thursday, Apr 12 2012, 19:03) QUOTE (interpolfan11 @ Thursday, Apr 12 2012, 05:01) QUOTE (The_anti_zee @ Wednesday, Apr 11 2012, 20:50) can someone please explain to me how the guy driving the red car looks Hispanic?, make fun of me all you want, call me a troll, But I just don't see how he looks hispanic... He clearly looks like a Hispanic to me, albeit a goofy-looking and poorly-rendered one. He looks to me like actor David Ramsey,who got role of informer and boyfriend of Dexter sister in Dexter TV show: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0708981/ Still think that Balcony guy is main protagonist,but this guy could be another protagonist,or important character like Packie or Little Jacob in IV. Holy sh*t he does look like him...

He really doesn't resemble him all that much. And that actor is 40 years old, while the Hispanic guy is probably around 30 years old.

[Miamivicecity]

QUOTE (interpolfan11 @ Friday, Apr 13 2012, 04:51)

I'm not trying to deny that having a gangbanger overtake a mob-run casino in LV was unrealistic. I'm just trying to say that from a storytelling standpoint, R* has evolved from SA. The IV story is considerably deeper and more realistic than any other story in the series. To suggest that R* would suddenly move away from this trend for anything other than a side-story (a la TBoGT) is asinine. And if the main theme of the game is heists, car chases, and Vinewood, I'll be extremely disappointed. It's highly hypocritical to insinuate that gangs are an overblown aspect of LA culture, and then suggest that the game's story will consist of the glitz and glamour of Hollywood, as that is actually the most over-publicized aspect of LA culture. Other than providing some jobs, Hollywood doesn't affect the life of the average LA resident. However, gangs certainly affect the lives of those living in the ghetto, which sadly enough is a pretty large portion of LA. Seeing LA from a different perspective would be highly unrealistic, as this is a video game in which the protagonist commits crime and wreaks havoc. Considering that the city's crime legacy is mostly related to gangs and that most of the major crime that persists today is still caused by gangs, the protagonist, Caucasian or Hispanic, has to work with gangs almost exclusively. And just to clear any confusion, I still think the protagonist is Ned Luke, as the evidence for him being the protagonist is just too overwhelming. I'm just interested to see how they can make interactions between him and the gangs believable.

I'm not insinuating gangs are an overblown aspect of LA. I'm just basing off from what I saw from the trailer and to me it was very concentrated on downtown LS/Vinewood.

As I said R* typically capture the general theme in the first trailer and if you ask me this game I think is going to have a very "Heat" like feel to it and the divide between rich/poor during an economic crisis.

Of course though for the sake of authenticity street gangs have to have some involvement in the story, but I don't think it needs to be as prominent as it was in SA which lets face it when people think of LA they think of the 90s, the LA riots etc which I think SA captured very well.

What has me intrigued about Ned Luke is if he is the protagonist it will be interesting to see modern day LA/LS from his perspective rather than say a young black, hispanic, asian man etc deeply involved in the ghetto.

I'm not saying however R* wouldn't be able to make an interesting game with a protagonist from those backgrounds. I have my criticisms of SA and funnily enough even though I'm not huge fan of the street gang theme that was the part of the game I actually liked.

Even if R* throw in the shoes of one the other proposed protagonists it doesn't bother me. I'd just much rather play as this Ned Luke guy as I prefer De Niro-ish type protagonists who can use their wealth of experience as a criminal to their advantage.

[Zeichef]

QUOTE (interpolfan11 @ Thursday, Apr 12 2012, 22:52)

QUOTE (Zeichef @ Thursday, Apr 12 2012, 13:48) QUOTE (acmilano @ Thursday, Apr 12 2012, 19:03) QUOTE (interpolfan11 @ Thursday, Apr 12 2012, 05:01) QUOTE (The_anti_zee @ Wednesday, Apr 11 2012, 20:50) can someone please explain to me how the guy driving the red car looks Hispanic?, make fun of me all you want, call me a troll, But I just don't see how he looks hispanic... He clearly looks like a Hispanic to me, albeit a goofy-looking and poorly-rendered one. He looks to me like actor David Ramsey,who got role of informer and boyfriend of Dexter sister in Dexter TV show: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0708981/ Still think that Balcony guy is main protagonist,but this guy could be another protagonist,or important character like Packie or Little Jacob in IV. Holy sh*t he does look like him... He really doesn't resemble him all that much. And that actor is 40 years old, while the Hispanic guy is probably around 30 years old.

Yes he just looks like him, I'm not implying (I hope the guy that pointed this out isn't either) that he's based on him. I mean Ned Luke obviously IS the balcony guy and he's identical to him so it would be pretty obvious if the "hispanic" guy was indeed aforementioned actor.

Btw he doesn't look "hispanic" to me, what I see is a typical nigg.. black guy.

I kid the blacks, they're delightful

[interpolfan11]

QUOTE (Miamivicecity @ Thursday, Apr 12 2012, 18:07)

QUOTE (interpolfan11 @ Friday, Apr 13 2012, 04:51) I'm not trying to deny that having a gangbanger overtake a mob-run casino in LV was unrealistic. I'm just trying to say that from a storytelling standpoint, R* has evolved from SA. The IV story is considerably deeper and more realistic than any other story in the series. To suggest that R* would suddenly move away from this trend for anything other than a side-story (a la TBoGT) is asinine. And if the main theme of the game is heists, car chases, and Vinewood, I'll be extremely disappointed. It's highly hypocritical to insinuate that gangs are an overblown aspect of LA culture, and then suggest that the game's story will consist of the glitz and glamour of Hollywood, as that is actually the most over-publicized aspect of LA culture. Other than providing some jobs, Hollywood doesn't affect the life of the average LA resident. However, gangs certainly affect the lives of those living in the ghetto, which sadly enough is a pretty large portion of LA. Seeing LA from a different perspective would be highly unrealistic, as this is a video game in which the protagonist commits crime and wreaks havoc. Considering that the city's crime legacy is mostly related to gangs and that most of the major crime that persists today is still caused by gangs, the protagonist, Caucasian or Hispanic, has to work with gangs almost exclusively. And just to clear any confusion, I still think the protagonist is Ned Luke, as the evidence for him being the protagonist is just too overwhelming. I'm just interested to see how they can make interactions between him and the gangs believable. I'm not insinuating gangs are an overblown aspect of LA. I'm just basing off from what I saw from the trailer and to me it was very concentrated on downtown LS/Vinewood. As I said R* typically capture the general theme in the first trailer and if you ask me this game I think is going to have a very "Heat" like feel to it and the divide between rich/poor during an economic crisis. Of course though for the sake of authenticity street gangs have to have some involvement in the story, but I don't think it needs to be as prominent as it was in SA which lets face it when people think of LA they think of the 90s, the LA riots etc which I think SA captured very well. What has me intrigued about Ned Luke is if he is the protagonist it will be interesting to see modern day LA/LS from his perspective rather than say a young black, hispanic, asian man etc deeply involved in the ghetto. I'm not saying however R* wouldn't be able to make an interesting game with a protagonist from those backgrounds. I have my criticisms of SA and funnily enough even though I'm not huge fan of the street gang theme that was the part of the game I actually liked. Even if R* throw in the shoes of one the other proposed protagonists it doesn't bother me. I'd just much rather play as this Ned Luke guy as I prefer De Niro-ish type protagonists who can use their wealth of experience as a criminal to their advantage.

Whoa, I sorta mixed up part of your post with Dick Valor's post, who was insinuating that gangs are an overblown part of LA culture. Also, it seemed like you kinda agreed with his thoughts about gangs being an overblown part of LA culture, but I'm sorry if I misjudged exactly what you were trying to say.

QUOTE (Dick Valor @ Thursday, Apr 12 2012, 06:03)

You're understanding of L.A. gang culture is completely skewed.  As a white person from L.A. who has driven through Compton (which is fairly tame) and Watts (a bit more intimidating, tbh), white people are the last people that are going to get shot.  Gang members typically target rival gang members; not random, unaffiliated white drivers or pedestrians.  On the contrary, dead white folk in the ghetto will only bring more heat on the community.  If anything, Ned Luke dealing with street thugs would be fresh and provide lots of interesting culture clash since he'd be out of his element... much like Walter White in Breaking Bad.  I would only like the hispanic guy to be our protagonist if he was more than a gangbanger and got out of his element as well, for example, by being a Vinewood stunt driver on the side.  L.A. is about so much more than gangs, which are incredibly over-hyped with respect to violence and influence.  For V, R* needs to think bigger than petty gang wars.  I want to take over LS for myself, not for my gang.

@Dick Valor

I drive through Compton and Watts all the time, and I completely agree that they are not the most menacing-looking or dangerous places on Earth, or even Southern California. However, this relates more to LA simply not being a very dangerous city anymore, rather than street gangs not having a lot of influence over the crime scene. This may not be the early 90s when gangs absolutely wreaked havoc across LA, but gangs are still the primary crime-causing groups in LA and they need to be properly represented in V, even if the protagonist is Ned Luke. (who I do think is the protagonist)

This post has been edited by interpolfan11 on Friday, Apr 13 2012, 04:20

[Dick Valor]

QUOTE (interpolfan11 @ Friday, Apr 13 2012, 03:42)

@Dick Valor I've drive through Compton and Watts all the time, and I completely agree that they are not the most menacing-looking or dangerous places on Earth, or even Southern California. However, this relates more to LA simply not being a very dangerous city anymore, rather than street gangs not having a lot of influence over the crime scene. This may not be the early 90s when gangs absolutely wreaked havoc across LA, but gangs they are still the primary crime-causing groups in LA and they need to be properly represented in V, even if the protagonist is Ned Luke. (who I do think is the protagonist)

Agree 100%. I would be disappointed if there wasn't any gangs at all, of course. I just don't want LS to get typecast in the GTA universe and constantly represented with the same story. I do want gang culture to play a big role in V, but I want Hollywood and medical marijuana to be prominent as well, since these are also a huge part of L.A.'s economy and culture.