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I already have my own, but im wanting to build a cheap, under $500 machine that can play at least GTA IV on medium settings, for my sister. It needs to also be able to run Windows 8.
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Well, I bet that Windows 8 will work on any system capable of running Windows 7. I am not a hardware type person so I can't tell you whether or not you will get a decent system for under $500.

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My advice would be to see who far you will be able to get if you purchased the system with the system on GTA IV box. Just modify to suit your needs afterwards.

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QUOTE (nightwalker83 @ Thursday, Mar 8 2012, 23:19)
Well, I bet that Windows 8 will work on any system capable of running Windows 7. I am not a hardware type person so I can't tell you whether or not you will get a decent system for under $500.

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My advice would be to see who far you will be able to get if you purchased the system with the system on GTA IV box. Just modify to suit your needs afterwards.

Never even thought of that actually. I should do that. Look at the IV recommended specs and build from there. DRRR i should of thought of that. Thanks.
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-Just about any 2.5ghz or faster quad core
-Basically any PCI-E 2.0 x16 compatible motherboard with a socket that supports your CPU
-4Gb dual channel, or 6Gb tripple channel matched memory
-GTX260 or ATI/AMD equivalent
-Cheap-o case. Personally I find most, if not all, cheap custom cases to look like complete sh*t and they fall apart very easily. I would check on ebay for cheap HP cases, but that's just because I like their design and they always last me forever without anything breaking.


That's where I would start in your situation.
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I found Windows 8 DP version requires just over 6GB of space, so to make Windows work on a 1990s 2GB WD drive, I formatted XP Home Edition, it came out working, with out the proper drivers, and SP3, but it still amazingly worked, I have video proof I shot for YouTube! I'm compressing it now, and will plan to see about removing extra fat from it as well, if I have the time to test it far enough. I don't plan to register a Win XP OS to a drive that small, but it was a freebie

Anything 775 socket and up on the Intel side. My T3522 eMachine won't do dual core, but I can use Hyper Threading, and it already supports 64bit computing with the Celeron 3.33 it has.
It also supports PCIexpress and 4GB in 4 RAM slots, using a D915GUX mobo, so, you could in effect run GTA IV on that, but you'd be looking for 2007 or newer, as far as getting a machine that's not limping along
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$127,99 Intel Core i3-2120 Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16819115077

$109,99 XFX HD-677X-ZNLC Radeon HD 6770 1GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16814150540

$69,99 ASRock H61ICAFE LGA 1155 Intel H61
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16813157246

$84,99 Western Digital Caviar Blue WD5000AAKX 500GB 7200 RPM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16822136769

$19,99 PNY Optima 4GB 240-Pin DDR3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16820178332

$44,99 Antec NEO ECO 400C 400W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16817371029

$15,99 LG ELECTRONICS GH22NS90B
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16827136240

$44,99 COOLER MASTER Elite 430 RC-430-KWN1
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16811119227

= $518,92

Dual core CPU with Hyper Threading, good graphics card, proper motherboard, 500GB HDD, 4GBs of RAM, high quality power supply, DVD burner and a case with good airflow.
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How much of a build do you need? A complete ground up including the OS or are you salvaging anything from another system (if so, what?) and do you need an OS.


@yojo
The prices must of changed big time since you posted that. I just tried that list and it game to $523.92 but then goes to $540.11 when you add in the shipping. Although there is a total of $25 in MIR, but that doesn't mean jack at the time of purchase.

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I made a typo, that HDD costs $89,99, not $84,99. wink.gif
Anyway - that's the cheapest sensible rig with i3 on board, that I could build. If it's still to expensive, the only thing left to do is to take Pentium G620 instead of i3-2100. Or maybe a quad core Athlon 631, but it's currently unavailable.

//edit: and I've just noticed that HD7750 costs the same as HD6770, so it's an interesting alternative. wink.gif
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16814125417

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When you buy new, your idea of cheap will include a hundred bucks on more then one component (mobo, CPU, perhaps case, PSU, RAM is not among those, ODD is not among those, for example), my idea of cheap means maybe no more then two items over $100, if even that much!!

BTW, my component list won't ever include $100 on a case, since I think you can still build a reliable system that can mount and cool in a mundane case, but ODD, for example, you can pick up used, or low, low cost. CPU and mobo, RAM if you maintain, like PSU, Power Supply Unit, that it must be high end to live up to "you get what you pay for".
I found there is reliability to be found in very low cost components, even if there's a bit of risk, you don't take a bath on that loss!

The hit on that Gigabyte and other $100 range GPUs I suspect is only a 128bit memory interface, my 8600GT cards share that same bottleneck!!

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QUOTE (yojo2 @ Friday, Mar 9 2012, 12:15)
//edit: and I've just noticed that HD7750 costs the same as HD6770, so it's an interesting alternative. wink.gif
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16814125417

Yes but seeing as how a 5770 can for most part edge out a 7750 I see no reason why a 6770 can't do the same.
The 7750 has a 880Mhz GPU but only has 512 SPU. While the 5770 and 6770 are 850Mhz and 800 SPU.
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True, but in some reviews HD7750 overclocked better than HD5770/6770, and it consumes less power (not by a whole lot, but still). Anyway, I didn't say it's a better alternative wink.gif
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Did Gigabyte use the OC in the card name to imply any actual over-clocking? The memory interface should be larger, the 1GB of RAM still has to channel through that, like the FSB in a CPU!
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AMD Athlon II X3 450 @ 3.2GHz------------$77.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16819103886
G.Skill Value 4GB DDR3 1333--------------$19.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16820231423
Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3---------------------$99.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16813128519
HIS HD6790 1GB 256bit--------------------$129.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16814161377
Seagate 500GB SATA 6Gb/s----------------$84.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16822148767
Rosewill 530w--------------------------------$49.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16817182199
Samsung SATA DVD writer-----------------$15.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16827151244
Apex SK-393 ATX case---------------------$19.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16811154109
Subtotal $498.92
S&H $17.32*
Grand total $516.24 (without tax)*
Grand total $562.98 (with tax)*


*Tax rate and shipping charges varies by State

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That's if cheap mandates you go with Athlon. I'm disappointed in what I've read in reviews though, that the multicore AMDs can't compete with more modest Intels!
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QUOTE (Stinky12 @ Friday, Mar 9 2012, 23:06)
AMD Athlon II X3 450 @ 3.2GHz------------$77.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16819103886
G.Skill Value 4GB DDR3 1333--------------$19.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16820231423
Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3---------------------$99.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16813128519
HIS HD6790 1GB 256bit--------------------$129.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16814161377
Seagate 500GB SATA 6Gb/s----------------$84.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16822148767
Rosewill 530w--------------------------------$49.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16817182199
Samsung SATA DVD writer-----------------$15.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16827151244
Apex SK-393 ATX case---------------------$19.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16811154109
Subtotal $498.92
S&H $17.32*
Grand total $516.24 (without tax)*
Grand total $562.98 (with tax)*


*Tax rate and shipping charges varies by State

I will do some of this, but AMD is not gonna happen.
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QUOTE (ccrogers15 @ Saturday, Mar 10 2012, 00:57)
I will do some of this, but AMD is not gonna happen.

It's just something to keep in mind. After all, going with Intel at that price you'd be looking at Core 2 Duos.

Also, why is every one suggesting single sticks of RAM? If it were me, I'd much prefer spending an extra $7-12 and have the advantage of dual channel.
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A single stick is cheaper and lets you upgrade later on when your board only has 2 ram slots.
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QUOTE (Stinky12 @ Saturday, Mar 10 2012, 21:14)
A single stick is cheaper and lets you upgrade later on when your board only has 2 ram slots.

It's a budget system for his sister, I doubt she'll ever need any more than 4Gb RAM. There's no telling if or when that RAM will ever be upgraded after now, so isn't it better to maximize current performance?

You guys act like you've got "future proofing" programmed into you so good that you can't even comprehend building a system with maximum price/performance ratio for now with no plans to upgrade in the near future. I get the feeling that by the time he goes to buy more RAM for this system, you guys will tell him it's not worth the money to put into such an old system, and you'll tell him him he should build a new one.

@OP: Your sister will never need more than 4Gb RAM unless she's rendering CG movies or continually encoding movies. You'd see much better performance now from two 2Gb sticks, and you'd never need to upgrade the RAM in this system again.

In the theoretical situation you did buy a single 4Gb stick, the only reason you would need to buy another one later is so that you can run them in dual channel. Your memory would be limited by speed, not capacity.

So you could spend $20 now, and 20 later, having a slow computer until you spend that other 20, or you could spend $27-32 now and already have a fast computer.
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I would go with yojo's build.
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1 stick of 4GB is NOT CHEAP, but then again, I'm talking DDR2, and you're thinking DDR3 I suppose (generally speaking)
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