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Posted: Saturday, Mar 17 2012, 06:19
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Looks like in the Manning Sweepstakes the three final teams he is considering is the Broncos, Niners and Titans. All seem a good fit, hard to argue the Niners wouldn't be the NFC favorites if they can land Manning.
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Posted: Saturday, Mar 17 2012, 06:49
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Favorites to win the Super Bowl, imo. I was absolutely devastated when Kyle Williams botched those two returns. Thought we were going to Indy.
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Posted: Sunday, Mar 18 2012, 01:11
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QUOTE (Nick Foster @ Saturday, Mar 17 2012, 02:49)
Favorites to win the Super Bowl, imo.

Yeah dude, I totally agree.

On paper, you guys look like the favorite to emerge outta the NFC. I think it's the best spot for Manning at this point. With their historically good D, a very solid offensive line, weapons at their skill positions like Gore, Crabtree, Vernon Davis, and now Randy Moss, and a proven head coach in Harbaugh...it just seems like the best possible scenario for him. Not to mention the nice weather he'll get to play in which I think is p relevant considering he's used to playing in a dome.

The concern I'd have if I were a Niners fan is how they change the offensive scheme to suit Manning's talents. In Indy, his playbook was was extremely complex and catered to his strengths. Having not seen a ton of Niner games last year, but hearing that the playbook was oversimplified for Smith, I wonder if they'll have to overhaul the entire playbook. I'd expect an adjustment period regardless, but with true pros like they posses...it shouldn't be too big a deal.
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Posted: Sunday, Mar 18 2012, 01:23
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I REALLY dont want Peyton to go to the Niners. My Seahawks have never done good against him. I'd rather face Alex Smith or really any one else available. I think he's gonna go to the Broncos.


On the Free Agency Front, I'm kinda glad the Seahawks havent done much. We know what we want and how much we want to pay for it. Mario Williams at 100 mill is too steep and the risk/age issue with Manning is too much risk for the very young Seahawks team. PC wants to bring in a young QB and stick him in the middle of an already established team. If the Hawks get a second skilled pass rusher for the D line it'll make that Defense an early contender for the top Defense in the League.

Glad we locked up Beastmode and Big Red. Getting Red Bryant back was in my opinion a top 10 move so far in the Offseason.
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Posted: Sunday, Mar 18 2012, 03:27
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QUOTE (Attorney General @ Saturday, Mar 17 2012, 17:11)
QUOTE (Nick Foster @ Saturday, Mar 17 2012, 02:49)
Favorites to win the Super Bowl, imo.

Yeah dude, I totally agree.

On paper, you guys look like the favorite to emerge outta the NFC. I think it's the best spot for Manning at this point. With their historically good D, a very solid offensive line, weapons at their skill positions like Gore, Crabtree, Vernon Davis, and now Randy Moss, and a proven head coach in Harbaugh...it just seems like the best possible scenario for him. Not to mention the nice weather he'll get to play in which I think is p relevant considering he's used to playing in a dome.

The concern I'd have if I were a Niners fan is how they change the offensive scheme to suit Manning's talents. In Indy, his playbook was was extremely complex and catered to his strengths. Having not seen a ton of Niner games last year, but hearing that the playbook was oversimplified for Smith, I wonder if they'll have to overhaul the entire playbook. I'd expect an adjustment period regardless, but with true pros like they posses...it shouldn't be too big a deal.

If they would have to revamp the playbook, Harbaugh would be able to handle it perfectly, seeing as he was a former NFL quarterback. One of the big concerns I have for this year is the loss of Guard Adam Snyder. He was an essential part of our running game and Chilo Rachal is terrible. Hopefully they can pull someone out of the draft to fill the hole, along with a couple of deep threats and a bigger endzone target to compliment Vernon Davis and Delanie Walker.
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Posted: Sunday, Mar 18 2012, 05:59
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QUOTE (Nick Foster @ Saturday, Mar 17 2012, 19:27)
QUOTE (Attorney General @ Saturday, Mar 17 2012, 17:11)
QUOTE (Nick Foster @ Saturday, Mar 17 2012, 02:49)
Favorites to win the Super Bowl, imo.

Yeah dude, I totally agree.

On paper, you guys look like the favorite to emerge outta the NFC. I think it's the best spot for Manning at this point. With their historically good D, a very solid offensive line, weapons at their skill positions like Gore, Crabtree, Vernon Davis, and now Randy Moss, and a proven head coach in Harbaugh...it just seems like the best possible scenario for him. Not to mention the nice weather he'll get to play in which I think is p relevant considering he's used to playing in a dome.

The concern I'd have if I were a Niners fan is how they change the offensive scheme to suit Manning's talents. In Indy, his playbook was was extremely complex and catered to his strengths. Having not seen a ton of Niner games last year, but hearing that the playbook was oversimplified for Smith, I wonder if they'll have to overhaul the entire playbook. I'd expect an adjustment period regardless, but with true pros like they posses...it shouldn't be too big a deal.

If they would have to revamp the playbook, Harbaugh would be able to handle it perfectly, seeing as he was a former NFL quarterback. One of the big concerns I have for this year is the loss of Guard Adam Snyder. He was an essential part of our running game and Chilo Rachal is terrible. Hopefully they can pull someone out of the draft to fill the hole, along with a couple of deep threats and a bigger endzone target to compliment Vernon Davis and Delanie Walker.

Well the 49ers just signed Manningham, so I don't think their FO needs to add much more to their wide receiving core other than drafting someone.

And good luck with pursuing Manning, I hope you guys nab him since I don't want him in the same division as the Chargers. (Although the Chargers have actually played quite well against him, historically-speaking)
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QUOTE (interpolfan11 @ Saturday, Mar 17 2012, 21:59)
QUOTE (Nick Foster @ Saturday, Mar 17 2012, 19:27)
QUOTE (Attorney General @ Saturday, Mar 17 2012, 17:11)
QUOTE (Nick Foster @ Saturday, Mar 17 2012, 02:49)
Favorites to win the Super Bowl, imo.

Yeah dude, I totally agree.

On paper, you guys look like the favorite to emerge outta the NFC. I think it's the best spot for Manning at this point. With their historically good D, a very solid offensive line, weapons at their skill positions like Gore, Crabtree, Vernon Davis, and now Randy Moss, and a proven head coach in Harbaugh...it just seems like the best possible scenario for him. Not to mention the nice weather he'll get to play in which I think is p relevant considering he's used to playing in a dome.

The concern I'd have if I were a Niners fan is how they change the offensive scheme to suit Manning's talents. In Indy, his playbook was was extremely complex and catered to his strengths. Having not seen a ton of Niner games last year, but hearing that the playbook was oversimplified for Smith, I wonder if they'll have to overhaul the entire playbook. I'd expect an adjustment period regardless, but with true pros like they posses...it shouldn't be too big a deal.

If they would have to revamp the playbook, Harbaugh would be able to handle it perfectly, seeing as he was a former NFL quarterback. One of the big concerns I have for this year is the loss of Guard Adam Snyder. He was an essential part of our running game and Chilo Rachal is terrible. Hopefully they can pull someone out of the draft to fill the hole, along with a couple of deep threats and a bigger endzone target to compliment Vernon Davis and Delanie Walker.

Well the 49ers just signed Manningham, so I don't think their FO needs to add much more to their wide receiving core other than drafting someone.

And good luck with pursuing Manning, I hope you guys nab him since I don't want him in the same division as the Chargers. (Although the Chargers have actually played quite well against him, historically-speaking)

Manningham is a good signing. I'm pissed lol. The Rams just lost Lloyd and i was thinking, "Yes, now we only have to face one great WR all year", (referring to Fitz).

Gotta love the NFC West. Glad we're getting better.
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Posted: Monday, Mar 19 2012, 15:31
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If manning played for Denver he would be a secondary. Tebow is already paid to be the starter for the upcomming season.
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Posted: Monday, Mar 19 2012, 16:05
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QUOTE (AmyJones @ Monday, Mar 19 2012, 09:31)
If manning played for Denver he would be a secondary. Tebow is already paid to be the starter for the upcomming season.

LOL!! Where do you get that idea?? Tebow's contract isn't even that much.

Manning is a starter on any team no matter what and speaking of Denver, negations are being talked out as I am posting this.

Might need to change my signature.
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Posted: Monday, Mar 19 2012, 16:27
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Big time Colts/Peyton Manning fan here, and my man Peyton will be signing with the Broncos, like GTA3 Rockstar said. Link below:


http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d827b...1_breaking_news

I wish him the best of luck, and look forward to him having a great season in Denver. Damn I am going to miss seeing him in Blue and White.
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Posted: Monday, Mar 19 2012, 21:48
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Not living in the US, I don't get to hear big updates about my Bills team unless I seek them out (thank fook for the Bleacher Report app on my phone). Was surprised to read about the Williams deal a few days back. Great move, that defence is looking mean as hell. Just have to hope they stay fit. Can't wait to see who gets drafted smile.gif

Tebow was criticised for being too undisciplined and wild last season, particularly in the playoffs when his inexperience showed. Manning will be a great mentor for the younger QB. He will take Tebow to the next level while being a cooler head in the pocket in those important games.
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Posted: Monday, Mar 19 2012, 22:49
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since whoever moderates this forum decided to simply lock my thread instead of merging it with the proper one (like a good moderator would have done) I guess I'll just copy/paste it here now.

QUOTE (El_Diablo; Monday @ Mar 19 2012, 13:58)
in case you haven't heard...
http://espn.go.com

this is insane. so much for Tebow mania yeah?
his ass is outta' here. they don't even want to keep him as the backup, they're already shopping offers.

right now the preliminary Manning talks are around 5 years / $95Million.
which would make him like 41 years old at the end of the deal.
but of course 40 is the new 35 at least, especially for professional athletes with the best medical care on Earth.

my dad lives in Greenwood Village, Colorado which is literally 5 minutes away from the Bronco's training facility. I'm gonna' go visit him soon to watch Peyton work out during the public practices. sh*t's gonna' be like Mardi Gras atmosphere.

QUOTE (SIKKS66; Monday @ Mar 19 2012, 14:02)
Tebow has potential but he was a bit wild and undisciplined last season. Manning could be a great mentor.

QUOTE (El_Diablo; Monday @ Mar 19 2012, 14:30)
I agree with you about Tebow.
they should keep him behind Manning, it would be perfect for his future career and for Denver.

I'm not sure what Denver or Tebow (or other teams that could sign him) have to gain right now from trying to implement a sub-par quarterback into a traditional NFL passing offense. if another team signed Tebow this year they'd have a better chance of setting him up as an offensive weapon like a running back.
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Posted: Tuesday, Mar 20 2012, 01:38
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Am I the only won who thinks that Manning is crazy for going to the Broncos rather than the 49ers?

Now fricking Manning is in my beloved Bolts' division, but I'm not too worried since the Bolts tend to play to their competition.

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Well, this isn't the way i hoped it would pan out. Manning obviously signed with the Broncos because they paid him more, and he didn't have to face his brother in the Conference championship game. Shame really, how money and personal feelings trump winning, with Manning signing with the Broncos rather than the Niners. Now we're in deep trouble, with Smith irked at Baalke for trying to chase him out of town for Manning. If Smith doesn't come back next year, Colin Kaepernick better learn quick.
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Manning is the key to Elway getting rid of Tebow. I think he'll be traded or cut. And will eventually sign with the Jaguars.
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QUOTE (interpolfan11 @ Monday, Mar 19 2012, 18:38)
Am I the only won who thinks that Manning is crazy for going to the Broncos rather than the 49ers?

nah I think you're right.
San Fran has a better chance of winning the Super Bowl tomorrow than the Broncos.

but more than anything I think Peyton made his choice between a combination of where he feels comfortable AND where he has a decent chance of winning.
I'm thinking Jim Harbaugh makes Manning more uncomfortable than John Fox.

QUOTE (Nick Foster @ Monday, Mar 19 2012, 18:40)
Manning obviously signed with the Broncos because they paid him more

I'm sorry but this is just dead wrong.

if you do a little research you'll find that his potential offers would have been the same no matter where he wound up.
it's going to be about 20Million a year because that's about what he was getting from the Colts and it would put him on par with other top free-agents.

it's pretty standard what each team was offering.
he wasn't going to get much more or less if he ended up with another team than Denver. his decision was not about the money.
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I take back what I said. I stated that as he is injury able still. Looks like he is going to start for Denver and Tebow will have to find another place to go. what a twisted event this is.
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QUOTE (AmyJones @ Monday, Mar 19 2012, 19:45)
I take back what I said. I stated that as he is injury able still. Looks like he is going to start for Denver and Tebow will have to find another place to go. what a twisted event this is.

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both as a Seahawks fan (no Manning in Red and Gold) and a supposed Tebow Hater.
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QUOTE (El_Diablo @ Monday, Mar 19 2012, 21:01)
QUOTE (Nick Foster @ Monday, Mar 19 2012, 18:40)
Manning obviously signed with the Broncos because they paid him more

I'm sorry but this is just dead wrong.

Exactly, how can you know what he's going to be paid if he hasn't signed the contract yet? We don't even know the details. icon14.gif
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I also feel that the 49ers would have been a better fit. I guess that Peyton did not want to be in a situation that would possibly lead up to him eliminating his own brother for Superbowl contention. Maybe he would rather face him in the superbowl, if he makes it there?

Anyway, I am sure that Peyton has his reasons alongside of the whole John Elway thing.
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