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Posted: Wednesday, May 2 2012, 20:35
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QUOTE (hambones @ Wednesday, May 2 2012, 10:28)
Junior Seau found dead in his home... cops suspect suicide.

As a Charger fan for many years, this is absolutely tragic. Junior Seau was not only one of the greatest ILBs of all time, but a fantastic person as well. I still can't believe he's gone.

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Posted: Wednesday, May 2 2012, 23:53
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Heard about the Junior Seau possible suicide on the radio while at work. Very horrible news indeed. R.I.P
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Posted: Thursday, May 3 2012, 00:07
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no signs of foul play but no suicide note either.

very strange circumstances.
most gunshot suicides are not to the chest, they're to the head and/or mouth.
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Posted: Thursday, May 3 2012, 00:18
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QUOTE (El_Diablo @ Wednesday, May 2 2012, 18:07)
no signs of foul play but no suicide note either.

very strange circumstances.
most gunshot suicides are not to the chest, they're to the head and/or mouth.

if you remember dave duerson, he committed suicide last year by a gunshot to the chest so he could preserve his brain for study on CTE... that's not to say seau did the same thing but why else would he do that. who knows what was going through his head, when you're thinking suicide you're not having rational thoughts.

i read this article by trevor pryce, he only retired last year. it's a good read and something to think about. it's very timely.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/22/sports/f...ired-of-it.html

something to keep in mind is that this is the 3rd retired NFL player to commit suicide in the last 15 months.
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Posted: Thursday, May 3 2012, 00:23
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QUOTE (hambones @ Wednesday, May 2 2012, 17:18)
who knows what was going through his head

no one does.

and that was my only point.
it's very weird.

he was such a cheerful guy.
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Posted: Thursday, May 3 2012, 05:17
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Man. Back when the Rams and Raiders left LA. There was a few years there when the only football jerseys I saw at school or anywhere really, were Junior Seau jerseys. Not gonna say I'm a fan, but that guy had an impact on southern California that most professional athletes can only wish to have in any region.
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A couple years ago Seau was suspected of trying to commit suicide when he (from what I remember) drove off of a cliff, but denied it being suicide. I'll second diablo's opinion on this whole thing being fishy.
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QUOTE (hambones @ Wednesday, May 2 2012, 18:18)
something to keep in mind is that this is the 3rd retired NFL player to commit suicide in the last 15 months.

The 8th Charger from Super Bowl XXIX to have died, 18 years.

RIP Seau!
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QUOTE (GTA3Rockstar @ Thursday, May 3 2012, 04:59)
QUOTE (hambones @ Wednesday, May 2 2012, 18:18)
something to keep in mind is that this is the 3rd retired NFL player to commit suicide in the last 15 months.

The 8th Charger from Super Bowl XXIX to have died, 18 years.

RIP Seau!

It's the San Diego Sports Curse.

• Linebacker David Griggs wrecked his car in Davie, Fla., in 1995. Tests showed he was legally drunk. He was 28.

• Running back Rodney Culver was killed in the ValuJet airplane crash in Florida in 1996. He was 26.

• Linebacker Doug Miller was struck by lightning in 1998 in Colorado. He was 28.

• Center Curtis Whitley died of a drug overdose in 2008. He was 39.

• Defensive end Chris Mims died from an enlarged heart in 2008. He was 38.

• Defensive lineman Shawn Lee suffered a heart attack in February 2011. He was 44.

• Linebacker Lew Bush also suffered a heart attack, in December 2011. He was 42.

• Seau died of a gunshot wound to the chest, which police are investigating as a suicide. He was 43
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Posted: Friday, May 4 2012, 03:00
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Just a horrible story. RIP to one of the NFL's all-time greats.
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Posted: Friday, May 4 2012, 10:29
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@Interpol: whats even crazier is that Doug Miller was struck by lightning TWICE during that camping trip in Colorado.
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QUOTE (TUBBSthezombie @ Friday, May 4 2012, 10:29)
@Interpol: whats even crazier is that Doug Miller was struck by lightning TWICE during that camping trip in Colorado.

So much for the old saying lightning never strikes in the same place twice.

Also Seau's death now is officially ruled a suicide by investigators.
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Posted: Saturday, May 12 2012, 09:57
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Now the NFL has a class-action lawsuit to deal with.
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The preseason is going to be entertaining for the Seahawks... Pete Carroll originally said the starting QB spot will be between Jackson and Flynn... now after a rookie minicamp, Pete has now thrown 3rd round pick Russell Wilson...

Now you have the choice of A. The Rookie, B. The Backup to Aaron Rodgers, or C. Future backup to either A or B.
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Posted: Monday, May 14 2012, 22:13
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QUOTE (TUBBSthezombie @ Monday, May 14 2012, 01:30)
The preseason is going to be entertaining for the Seahawks... Pete Carroll originally said the starting QB spot will be between Jackson and Flynn... now after a rookie minicamp, Pete has now thrown 3rd round pick Russell Wilson...

Now you have the choice of A. The Rookie, B. The Backup to Aaron Rodgers, or C. Future backup to either A or B.

I can't see them not giving the job to Flynn. 3rd round rookie quarterbacks don't usually get the chance to start, and I believe the last one that did (Colt McCoy) failed to keep his job.

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I love Wilson as a college player but trying to succeed in the NFL as a 5' 10" QB, he has a rough road ahead of him to say the least. I am more curious to see the new Nike uniforms in action, looks like the Sea Chickens got the biggest overhaul wink.gif .

I am pretty convinced this is my Chicago Bears year if Forte can bring himself to sign his franchise tag and work on a long term deal. Our WR's went from Hester/Knox to B. Marshal/A. Jefferies who are both 6' 4" +. Add that in with our gravy schedule and this is the best I have felt coming into a season in a long time.
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To me, this is a free year for my Giants after an incredible playoff/SB run. They have a brutal schedule, so you won't hear repeat from me. NFC is loaded - 49ers should be the early favorite.

The other NY team will be one big soap opera. LOTS of pressure on Sanchez. Already players like Revis are praising Tebow for his leadership and work ethic. That's going to be a fun locker room if Sanchez struggles.
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QUOTE (Funktipus @ Thursday, May 17 2012, 15:58)
To me, this is a free year for my Giants after an incredible playoff/SB run. They have a brutal schedule, so you won't hear repeat from me. NFC is loaded - 49ers should be the early favorite.

The other NY team will be one big soap opera. LOTS of pressure on Sanchez. Already players like Revis are praising Tebow for his leadership and work ethic. That's going to be a fun locker room if Sanchez struggles.

I think Tebow is going to struggle hard this year, I just see it. He is not gonna get the same media outlook and that will effect him.
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QUOTE (AmyJones @ Thursday, May 17 2012, 22:24)
QUOTE (Funktipus @ Thursday, May 17 2012, 15:58)
To me, this is a free year for my Giants after an incredible playoff/SB run. They have a brutal schedule, so you won't hear repeat from me. NFC is loaded - 49ers should be the early favorite.

The other NY team will be one big soap opera. LOTS of pressure on Sanchez. Already players like Revis are praising Tebow for his leadership and work ethic. That's going to be a fun locker room if Sanchez struggles.

I think Tebow is going to struggle hard this year, I just see it. He is not gonna get the same media outlook and that will effect him.

I think so as well. He's just not that good of a passer, and at the quarterback position, you need to be. I get that he's big and strong, but if he's one dimensional, he won't be effective at all.

(You should see the hell I get for saying that from the Tebow fans I know. They get super pissed.)
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Posted: Friday, May 18 2012, 06:40
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I still don't understand why people want to make Tebow a passer.

he could be better than he is now, I'm sure, but I don't think he'll ever be a great starting quarterback.
I think it's fairly evident that his most natural gifts are running, both in the open field and through tight spaces.

if he's ever going to be great at a position, it might be running back or corner.
they should convert him while he's PRIME and malleable and absorbing everything like the 6ft, 250lb beast he is.

great hands, not a great arm.
great legs, not great footwork in the pocket.
great vision, not great poise under pressure.

you could work on some of those things and maybe/eventually see above average results.
or you could mold that raw talent and make it fit into the place it was naturally supposed to go.

he seems like such an obvious offensive weapon.
why anyone (including Tim) feels like he has to prove himself as JUST a quarterback is beyond me. it really feels counter-intuitive.

but hey, with the Jets and Rex Ryan you honestly never know what could happen.
they might start marching him out there on the occasional Special Teams or screen play as an open receiver just to see what happens. next thing you know he's lining up alongside Sanchez every other play making the defense crazy; is he simply gonna' block for someone? is he gonna' take a handoff? is he gonna' fake a block and open up on a passing route down the line? is he going to catch a lateral from Sanchez and then throw his own pass? is he going to get the ball from Sanchez, fake like he's going to run, and then lateral it back to Sanchez so Mark can make a pass?

if the Jets were creative they could create a powerful offensive Ace-in-the-hole for a variety of standard and trick plays.
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