[goin-god]

So, you actually belieave they existed in medieval times?

Okay..

[oysterbarron]

Obviously this was meant for the debates and disscusions section so im going by the thesis that you cant prove either way wether they existed or didnt! they have been writen about in the past and just because we havent found them yet doesnt mean they don't exist or didn't exist.

[goin-god]

QUOTE (oysterbarron @ Monday, Feb 20 2012, 10:08)

Obviously this was meant for the debates and disscusions section so im going by the thesis that you cant prove either way wether they existed or didnt! they have been writen about in the past and just because we havent found them yet doesnt mean they don't exist or didn't exist.

I rest my case.

[Lightning Strike]

A certain type of dragon does exist



It's know as the Sup Dragon. ( Sorry I had to )


Anyway yes there is a specific type of species known as Komodo dragons, unfortunately they're not sixty feet long and they don't breath fire, or have wings

[Robinski]

QUOTE (oysterbarron @ Monday, Feb 20 2012, 13:08)

Obviously this was meant for the debates and disscusions section so im going by the thesis that you cant prove either way wether they existed or didnt! they have been writen about in the past and just because we havent found them yet doesnt mean they don't exist or didn't exist.

If we're gonna be all deeanddee about it, the burden of proof is on you to prove that they did exist.

[oysterbarron]

Obviously the question i asked was asuming that they were real at some point! and i was hoping for some intelligent conversation about that original asumption! Idk why i exspected it onxe this got moved to gen chat!

[sivispacem]

QUOTE (oysterbarron @ Monday, Feb 20 2012, 18:01)

i was hoping for some intelligent conversation about that original asumption!

It got moved into GC because it's not a debate topic. If you'd posted more than a line and a half and the basic premise hadn't been so silly, then it would have stayed in D&D

[El Zilcho]

QUOTE (oysterbarron @ Monday, Feb 20 2012, 17:01)

Obviously the question i asked was asuming that they were real at some point! and i was hoping for some intelligent conversation about that original asumption! Idk why i exspected it onxe this got moved to gen chat!

There are fossils to evidence prehistoric species; if dragons existed, there would be considerable evidence in fossil form as dinosaurs with wings (or any other large winged reptilian) would be a different species, or genus. Not to mention dragons are mythical, with no basis in fact, and are man created - anything remotely resembling a dragon didn't live while we were around.

Now stop being silly.

[Law0070]

QUOTE (oysterbarron @ Monday, Feb 20 2012, 18:01)

Obviously the question i asked was asuming that they were real at some point! and i was hoping for some intelligent conversation about that original asumption! Idk why i exspected it onxe this got moved to gen chat!

'cuz it'll turn out in a kind of discussion like with religious people and their "God"

[leik oh em jeez!]

QUOTE (El Zilcho @ Monday, Feb 20 2012, 15:41)

and are man created

I just want to take the time to point out that multiple cultures across the Earth have had unrelated stories of dragons.

I'd also like to point out (Though its name escapes my mind at this time) that when the fossil was found that linked dinosaurs and birds, everyone thought it to be fake as it was the only one of its kind. It was later discovered that it was actually two separate fossils, BOTH of which strengthened the link between dinosaurs and birds.
So that's two species within the middle ground of evolution from scaled reptilian creature to modern feathered bird found basically at the same time. I believe that was quite recent too, 90s maybe?

[Rown]

You should watch Reign of Fire. While the story was 'eh', the dragons were fun to watch.

QUOTE

Could there be other forms of life that have exactly the same process except they only surface every thousansd of years? what is the possibilty of this and thesability of this therioe?

I'd like to think so. Across the animal kingdom we see seasonal hibernation, insects as you say can lie dormant for years, and we've discovered a type of jellyfish that can revert to a younger form and go through its growth cycle all over again. The idea that there's a more advanced organism that can lie dormant for a longer period of time isn't unreasonable. Has it been discovered? Has it been documented? It would seem not. Your hook, the Dragon, while widespread in myth and folklore as of yet has no clear scientific evidence to its existence. In fact I tend to agree with the idea that the animal was just misinterpreted dinosaur remains. The fire breathing is an interesting twist, though.

Rown

[El_Diablo]

"dragons" do not exist as far as we know, nor have they ever existed.

the Komodo Dragon exists, but that's a different story.

"dragons" in the mythical sense are entirely fictional.
there were some now extinct dinosaurs (the ones that could fly) which looked similar to the concept of a modern dragon, but of course they were not actually fire-breathing dragons.

the possibility that a large, ancient, winged animal could still exist undiscovered during its hibernation somewhere underground is very small.
most of the habitable, tillable and even remotely accessible land around the world has been combed and raked through by humans for thousands of years; farming, mining, exploring, etc. and then you have the onset of modern mining and drilling machinery and the equipment they use to find valuable minerals underground like sonar/radar. hundreds of thousands of miles of shallow subterranean surface area has been scanned by humans for decades now.

if we missed something like a live, dormant dragon (or any creature for that matter) we're just incredibly unlucky.

the real Final Frontier - as it were - is the ocean.
we know less about the deepest depths of our own ocean than we do our solar system. I bet there's still a lot of crazy looking sh*t down there waiting to be found...

[K^2]

QUOTE (oysterbarron @ Sunday, Feb 19 2012, 05:41)

Could there be other forms of life that have exactly the same process except they only surface every thousansd of years?

Setting aside the fact that they never existed in the first place, nothing as complex or large as a dragon can hibernate that long. Some spores might be able to survive millenia, but even eggs wouldn't last anywhere near that long. A living cell requires metabolism to maintain its integrity over long periods of time. Any kind of metabolism stacked over a thousand years would end up depleting any stored resources.

[AlexGTAGamer]

QUOTE (Rown @ Monday, Feb 20 2012, 21:40)

You should watch Reign of Fire.

I actually enjoyed that film.

But away from film reviews, I find it interesting how dragons have been apart of society. From Saint George and the Dragon, to dragons in Norse mythology, to Chinese Dragons, to the Welsh Dragon.

[codyr783]

I doubt if dragons have ever existed. Granted, I imagine that there have been similar creatures in Prehistoric times.. but none that breathed fire.

If you want to get on the topic of undiscovered creatures, the oceans are a great place to start. I'd love to know what kind of creature made this sound:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9M3Rpy3tv50

[VoiceoftheVoiceless]

Sorry to leave so soon, but I have a date with a place called Planet Earth.

[Heisenberg]

The cycles are interesting. Notice how they're prime numbers? 13, 17 and such. This is because this pattern has the least probability of encountering a predator. Nature uses them quite a lot.

[Pico]

On the topic of amazing creatures, remember the oceans are vastly unexplored. Due to the broadness and depth we know little of deep water animals. Most are confined to the depths due to pressure and lighting, but it would be pretty coo. If there were some huge creature that hibernate deep below and rises every couple hundred or thousands of years. And no, I'm not referring to Chtullu or however it's spelled.

[oysterbarron]

QUOTE (El Zilcho @ Monday, Feb 20 2012, 21:41)

QUOTE (oysterbarron @ Monday, Feb 20 2012, 17:01) Obviously the question i asked was asuming that they were real at some point! and i was hoping for some intelligent conversation about that original asumption! Idk why i exspected it onxe this got moved to gen chat! There are fossils to evidence prehistoric species; if dragons existed, there would be considerable evidence in fossil form as dinosaurs with wings (or any other large winged reptilian) would be a different species, or genus. Not to mention dragons are mythical, with no basis in fact, and are man created - anything remotely resembling a dragon didn't live while we were around. Now stop being silly.

What dont You understand about the word assume? say they used to use caves as homes if the tectonic plates where they used to live/hoard/bread have moved and dissapeared into the earth or is under sea witch used to be land then you probably wouldnt find any evidence yet these days!

sivis i was'nt having a pop at you i know i dont put asmuch effort in as some do but i know your only doing your job!

[goin-god]

QUOTE (oysterbarron @ Tuesday, Feb 21 2012, 08:41)

QUOTE (El Zilcho @ Monday, Feb 20 2012, 21:41) QUOTE (oysterbarron @ Monday, Feb 20 2012, 17:01) Obviously the question i asked was asuming that they were real at some point! and i was hoping for some intelligent conversation about that original asumption! Idk why i exspected it onxe this got moved to gen chat! There are fossils to evidence prehistoric species; if dragons existed, there would be considerable evidence in fossil form as dinosaurs with wings (or any other large winged reptilian) would be a different species, or genus. Not to mention dragons are mythical, with no basis in fact, and are man created - anything remotely resembling a dragon didn't live while we were around. Now stop being silly. What dont You understand about the word assume? say they used to use caves as homes if the tectonic plates where they used to live/hoard/bread have moved and dissapeared into the earth or is under sea witch used to be land then you probably wouldnt find any evidence yet these days! sivis i was'nt having a pop at you i know i dont put asmuch effort in as some do but i know your only doing your job!

It's still extremely unlikely we wouldn't find at least 1 skeleton or something. If they existed they would had to be millons, or at least thousands. And man... why would they have gotten extinct in the first place? Thouse motherf*ckers would rule the earth.