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Regional History

Aug 30 2011 - the region was founded by user posted image The 500.
Aug 31 2011 - the region's first WA members were accepted.
Sep 01 2011 - the first WA representative, Quadratic Form, was elected.
Oct 30 2011 - war was declared on user posted image Shaffey by The 500. The victor was uncertain, although Shaffey would later be banned from the region for offenses including but not limited to genocide, torture, and the state-sponsored rape by soldiers of innocent citizens. A multitude of promises to respect and conform to the rules of engagement and fairly treat all prisoners and citizens was enough to grant the nation admittance to the region once again.
Dec 20 2011 - WA delegate Quadratic Form was replaced by user posted image The Otter Archipelago.
Jan 15 2012 - WA delegate The Otter Archipelago was replaced by user posted image Tulija.
Feb 8 2012 - the decision was made, by popular vote, to elect a Regional Council.

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NationPositionDuties
The Republic of The 500Founder• Keeps region safe from invaders
• Handles most anonymous votes and polls
The Meritocratic Republic of TulijaWorld Assembly Delegate• Speaks and votes for the region in World Assembly matters
• Controls Regional Controls with the power to ban raiders and update the Factbook
The Empire of ArgfensteinMinister of Security• Nation with a powerful military force
• Enforcer/guardian of the region, helps settle conflicts between nations
• Assumes leading role in inter-regional wars or defenses against raids
The Kingdom of ZootopolisChief Whip• Ensures all nations adhere to regional rules and world law
• Makes sure that WA nations respect and adhere to WA legislation
• Ensures nations participate in the regional democratic process
*open*Director of Recruitment• In charge of recruiting other forum members to join the region
• In charge of scouting possible regional embassies/alliances
The Federal Republic of OkurkaMinister of Regional Affairs• Acts as a mediator to attempt peaceful settlements of inter-national political conflicts
• Works closely with Minister of Security
• Closely monitors nations with WMDs and controls their distribution
The Meritocratic Republic of TulijaMinister of Regional Trade and Exchange• Economic backbone of the region
• Attempts to settle trade disputes between regions
• Encourages free trade policies and set currency exchange rates


Our regional population is currently 44,066,000,000

Full Nation List | 53 Nations | Updated on 2/22/2012

   
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The Republic of The 500 fireguy109 "500 - The People's Choice" Click
The Empire of Argfenstein coin-god "United under the Iron Cross" Click
The Holy Empire of Chunkleberry Chunk “Live long and prosper!” -
The Republic of Arkiasis TargetTango “Unitate, libertate, aequalitate” Click
The Queendom of Cloudina Kirsty “Peace and Prosperity” Click
The Federal Republic of Imperial Baguettes and Wine coolers baptiste “Plus de baguette!” -
The Republic of Booyahlandia TheCacti “What's that? Booyah! ” Click
The Dictatorship of Fegelein Hermanny Adler “How fortunate for leaders that men do not think.” Click
The Pole Barn Builders of Duncan-Construction Runey “I don't have a soundboard!” Click
The Republic of Neutral-ness freak2121 “Live Free or Don't.” Click
The Empire of Chuckovia Tchuck “Non Ducor, Duco” Click
The Republic of Moth-ra The General “Peace through minding your own business ” -
The United Kingdom of Santos Castillos ~Vic Vance~ “If you want something done right do it yourself! ” Click
The Federation of Amsterdon GTA_stu “We will either find a way, or make one” -
The Technocratic Autocracy of Subterannia Sivispacem “Obedience Through Suffering” -
The Meritocratic Republic of Tulija El Zilcho “To our Worthy, the World” Click
The Fun Land of Naufal - “Post-apocalyptic wasteland ftw.” -
The Eternal Kingdom of Shaffey Greenline “Growth, Honesty, Sacrifice” -
The Neutralness of Inoffensive Land Mealing “We have no strong feelings one way or the other” Click
The Aquatic Weasels of The Otter Archipelago Otter “When in doubt, swim” Click
The Grand Duchy of Ashfjord SIKK66 “All Glory to the Duke” -
The Republic of Cluckin Bell SmC12 “Cock-a-Doodle Do! ” -
The United Socialist States of Uopanapapa UNRATED69 “Live Hard or Die Free” -
The Rogue Nation of Cida Melo cidamelo “Only The Ones Who Dreams Can Reach It!!Together We Are!” -
The Empire of The Firemen Kwandilibro “You will bow before the firemen” -
The Iron Curtain of Socialism and Capitalism 1st gtaROCKER “Natural right of life, liberty, and property” -
The United States of Autosimcomputa GTA360 “Live with it or die from it.” -
The Kingdom of ZootopolisPandazoot “Victoria per speculatio” Click
The Reasonably Priced Land of Cheap Electronics JayC “I have a really big robot dog” -
The Demonocracy of Anticristozia Typhus "Cruor, cruor, cruor" Click
The Holy Empire of Urinetmrpain “Just pissing in the wind” Click
The Democratic Republic of Anecta- “Samma-sati” -
The Republic of Bartaria Bartleby "For The Motherland, Anything."Click
The Republic of Domlyza - "An eye for an eye."-
The Armed Republic of Exophoria Blackout? "LOLPLANE" Click
The Oppressed Peoples of Figglepiddlestan sonnyBlack "Oppression Made This Nation A Saaaad Panda" -
The Kingdom of GoldistanStefche"We are the 1%."Click
The Republic of Greater Captonia Captain VXR “Pass that spliff, maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan”-
The Democratic Republic of John Secronom Secronom President "Everyone's future - today."Click
The United States of LeftDyke fgcarva1 “Work sets you free.” Click
The Free Land of Modder River dills "Good enough never is."Click
The Kingdom of Zirgavia GerryM “Stay kind whenever necessary” Click
The Principality of Zyonia Zyonig "Wisdom outweighs any wealth" Click
The Federal Republic of Okurka OdDsOcK "Per Asper Ad Astra" Click
The Corporate Republic of Renikov mr_ed “Dont think - consume.”-
The Holy Empire of SebastinopleOutcast"Roll one"-
The Borderlands of Solsys Skimask101 “You only die once. So make it count.” Click
The Federation of The Chap Islands something_else "Grow facial hair and prosper!"Click
The Kingdom of Van Den Bos- "You may fire when ready."-
The Federation of Vanillainy Vanilla Shake "Oh by the way, which one's Pink?"Click
The Republic of Lions Kinko. "We will sing as one in solidarity" Click
The Warhost of South Glesga Straznicy 'Mon then! Click
The Nomadic Peoples of Arfbargle ghost of delete key "Quis trolleriet ipsos trolleres?" Click
The Republic of Fantanastan Lethal Nizzle "Well, that's just great. You hear that, Ed? Bears."Click
The Republic of Enessji -"War is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength"-
The Commonwealth of Katy-Perry Irviding "Katy Perry has bangin titties"Click

Table adapted from the original one created by goin-god.

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The Republic of the 500 wishes to know its fellow nations' opinions concerning which positions should be created and who should fill them.

Would a nomination system suffice?
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The Empire of Argfenstein believes that it's our duty as co-founders of the NationStates GTAForums Region to fill the position of Minister of Security.

We are looking into ways of computing Military efforts.
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The Kingdom of Goldistan would like to go all gung-ho and proclaim its self-nomination for the position of Minister of Regional Trade and Exchange. Our innumerable strengths include:

• An economy which has a current rating of 96/100,
• Has had a rating above 90/100 for more than 80% of our nation's existence,
• Our free-market and socially-liberal policies,
• An impressive tax rate of 7%,
• Our strong currency, the Gold, with one Gold equalling US$1.61 (as of 2:42am 10/02/2012 AEDT),
• A GDP of approximately US$19 trillion,
• A GDP per capita of US$34,908.81, approximately $18,000 more than the regional average,
• and An unemployment rate of 2.7%.

In the interests of strong intra-regional trade, and in the continual fostering of the growth of our nations' economies, it's imperative that the nation which serves such a role has a nigh-on perfect fiscal house of cards. We believe that our nation fits that description like a glove, to the point where we are confident enough to nominate ourselves for the position. With such noble and diverse endorsements, including Mitt Romney, Barack Obama, Muammar Al-Qadhafi, Elmo and every single Elvis Presley impersonator along the Las Vegas strip, the choice should be easy.

We also make really, really good pancakes.
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The Federal Republic of Okurka would like to apply for the position of Minister of Regional Affairs, citing our safe and secular society.

It would also like to submit for cataloging its National Anthem.
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The Archipelago would like to see the positions finalized and ground rules laid before too many more nominations are presented.

We humbly submit these suggestions as a jumping off point. Obviously, the roles of Founder and WA delegate operate on an entirely different system.


Eligibility:

- An eligible candidate must be a member of the WA. Not only does this give us a readymade set of rules in place to govern our region, but ensures that we see no puppet accounts in cabinet positions.

- An eligible candidate must have 2 WA endorsements and 3 nominations (three total, one of those can be your own nation)

Voting:

- The votes shall be held over a finite period of days.

- In the event of a tie, the nominee with the most number of nominations will take the spot. A further tie will be determined by the nation's number of WA endorsements at the time the polls were opened. Finally, in the event of the deadlock, it will fall upon our WA delegate to choose a victor.

Length of term:

- Two month length of term after which the position must be resigned and reassigned. The seat may be retaken after the following election. This gives everyone a fair shake....unless:

Tenure, or extension of office:

- if no one is eligible or seeking to replace the seat by the time the election is called, the current seat will remain.

No confidence:

- A No Confidence vote from 50% of the region is required to remove someone from their seat before the end of their term. This is a bold move and not to be undertaken lightly - expect to provide a serious argument.


Thoughts, gentlemen? The goal of these rules is to ensure that the system is fun, clear, simple, open to everyone - and most of all, constantly remaining active, so things don't stagnate.

We must agree upon these rules and draft them into an unbreakable constitution before the elections begin - to give us steadfast rules to lead by and to protect us from corruption.


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The Federation of Amsterdon would like to give The Kingdom of Goldistan its full support in its run for office, for the position of Minister of Regional Trade and Exchange, and it receives Amsterdons nomination for this position. We feel they are a great candidate for this position and will serve the region well. We would also like to extend our thanks to Goldistan for its endorsement of Amsterdon in the WA. We hope our 2 nations can form a cooperative and long lasting relationship.

Even though we strongly opposed the formation of a cabinet, and still are wary as to the possible consequences, we nevertheless will cooperate in its running as it will be a key institution in this region and we feel that boycotting, or other such actions would not be beneficial for the region or for Amsterdon.
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The Directorate isn't clear on the rules of holding two positions (they are not finalised yet), but the exceptional position of the Tulijan economy suggests it would massively beneficial to all for us to oversee economic growth and prosperity by taking on the role of Minister of Regional Trade and Exchange, in concurrence with our current Delegate leadership role. A more stable and growing base for the region to invest into would be hard found. It is our wish to encourage growth by spreading the riches with our allies and regional Brothers.

Evidence: http://www.broomdces.com/nseconomy/nations.php?nation=Tulija

http://www.broomdces.com/nseconomy/exchang...on=GTA%20Forums

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http://nseconomy.thirdgeek.com/nseconomy.php?nation=tulija

Stats:
96/100, although we were 97/100 until recent WA update (out of our control)
GDP of: U$ 42 Trillion
GDP per Capita: $45,000+
AE€ = $2.01 (strongest currency in GTA Region)
Tax of 7%
Unemployment of 2.67%
Social liberialism, free market and an economy which has been "Frightening" for about 60% of it's duration, with steady growth since the Progressive regime took over.

Michael Trevelyan - Directorate Treasurer and Minister of Finance

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After reviewing the rules put forward by the Otter Archipelago, we have no qualms with any of the points put forward. However President Pandazoot has a few amendments he would like to put forward. President Pandazoot wishes that every two months, the first day of that month will be designated as the day of voting. Furthermore, the period of voting should last a maximum of five days. Finally President Pandazoot thinks it would be ideal if candidates had up until a week before an election to state their intention to run and can spend the next week stating their case.

Richard Long Secretary of Foreign Relations
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QUOTE (goin-god @ Thursday, Feb 9 2012, 12:35)
The Empire of Argfenstein believes that it's our duty as co-founders of the NationStates GTAForums Region to fill the position of Minister of Security.

The United States of LeftDyke also nominate The Empire of Argfenstein for the position of Minister of Security, however, LeftDyke believes that is is essential for such a region as GTAForums to have its own Security Council and not rely on the decision of one individual for all of the region's worries. A system of about 4-5 nations should be worked so that they may develop plans to keep the region safe. Each nation will have a specific job in the Security Council (Intelligence, Defense, Logistics, and etc.)
The Council will be chaired by the Minister, who will have the power to veto any security resolutions, unless overruled by the Founder and WA delegate of the region.

Ministers for Human Rights, the Director of Recruitment position should be changed to Minister of Foreign Affairs.

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- A No Confidence vote from 50% of the region is required to remove someone from their seat before the end of their term.  This is a bold move and not to be undertaken lightly - expect to provide a serious argument.


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The Republic of the 500 would like to endorse The Empire of Argfenstein as well, and agrees with the proposals made by the Aquatic Weasels of the Otter Archipelago. The creation of a security council is up to the elected Minister of Security and will require a vote as well.

Furthermore, the Office of Polls and Data of the 500 is currently undergoing renovations and its servers are being updated; expect the entire regional list to be up to date by this time tomorrow.

E: The Republic of the 500 is pleased to report that all of its files on its neighbors, including their slogans and pre-titles, are now up to date.

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In complete defiance of copyright protection laws, The Archipelago has finally commissioned licensed ...stolen a national anthem. Rejoice!



In regards to this cabinet business, when shall we consider the rules to be finalized? I was thinking something else as well - perhaps any given nation should only be allowed to nominate one nation per role. IE, no hedging your bets to placate allies or roadblock enemies. Thoughts?

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We believe that we should leave the rules up for another day or two for other nations to look over then if there are no disagreements then a senior nation such as The 500 or Tulija can declare them official. Other than the suggestions listed in our last correspondence, the Kingdom of Zootopolis is pleased with the rules and is prepared to move onto the Cabinet voting.

Richard Long Secretary of Foreign Relations

P.S. Our (very easy to sing) national anthem.


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All of Amsterdon has been in an uproar since yesterday when a car exploded in the middle of National area 1, killing dozens and injuring hundreds. This terrorist act was traced back to a violent minority group known as the Lilliputian Freedom Fighters. A group allegedly supported by an unfriendly regime, despising Amsterdon for its heathenish ways and political bent, but more particularly for supporting the recent occupation of their homeland by an ally.

This is an absolutely brutal and cowardly attack on our nation and its people, and we condemn the terrorist's barbarism. Our armed forces are at the highest level of alert, and we have closed our borders and air space to civilian traffic. Our war planes are already bombing the Lilliputian military infrastructure and its capital city in anticipation of a full scale invasion and occupation which shall commence in less than an hour.

We will also add that we have strong reason to believe that The Otter Archipelago played a role in assissting the people behind this attrocity. It came less than 24 hours after our acceptance into the WA; something the Otterans vocally and strongly opposed. We also don't need to remind the region of The Otter Archipelago's constant attempts to undermine this nation's position and power. The Federation of Amsterdon hereby announces that it is cutting all diplomatic and economic ties with The Aquatic Weasels of The Otter Archipelago, and we encourage other nations to follow suit.

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After talks with the Supreme Leader of the great nation of The Federation of Amsterdon, we would like to announce that we will no longer remain indifferent to the cruelties of the Otter Archipelago and that we would also like to cut all economic and diplomatic ties as well as closing our borders to the citizens and politicians of The Aquatic Weasels of The Otter Archipelago.

Two recent events also helped justify this decision:
A)Attempting forced regime change. (threatening Authoritarian nations including Amsterdon) B)Condemning the scientific progress of another nation (The K9K9 weapon crisis).
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A Confederacy of Dunces! The Archipelago would actually be offended by these accusations if they weren't already so ridiculously absurd and patently false.

1 - The Archipelago, like any Nation worth its salt, stands in defiance of Despots, but has never once attempted to "force" anything. May I remind those present that the entire "conflict" between our nation and the petty "Supreme Leader" stems from a simple misunderstanding and a rather overblown reaction. Obviously a free nation will take offense to a ruthless government that slaughters people the instant they become homeless, and severs their citizen's feet.

2 - We stood with allies in our condemnation of the k9k9 "deathly rain" weapon. There is no practical military use for this weapon that does not result in unacceptable civilian losses.

We're sad to see you return to your evil ways, King Shaffey. We regret that your citizens will not able able to enjoy our fine Otterian Soda or stroll our gorgeous 100 mile beach for the time being. Perhaps there is hope that we can settle this beef before it festers any further.

We are sickened and extend our deepest sympathies to the victims of this latest cowardly attack by the Liliputians. If the region recalls, the Archipelago is no friend to this terrorist organization and condemns each new heinous plot they devise. Whatever our political differences with Amsterdon, we surely stand united in condemning this vile group.

The Archipelago is sad to say that Amsterdon's attempt to pin this this on their most convenient and vocal opponent comes too soon after their purchase of the contemptible Deathly Rain weapon and we call on the international community to help mediate this situation. The Archipelago feels the Supreme Leader is itching to test out his new toy and that we, for pointing out the obvious faults in his government, are the most likely target for his aggression.

In addition to this, we regret to say that the Archipelago's space based defense platform has intercepted "fishing boats" dangerously close to our automated fleets. We will protect our borders aggressively - and with finality - should we be provoked.

Finally, on a personal note, I feel we should address the absence of Sir Nettlebaum. He has taken quite ill - strange symptoms probably the result of an exotic STI, if we know our boy - and he's recovering in his hometown, the small hamlet of Fin Soup on the northern coast of the island of Phillips Extinction Ale. We wish him a speedy recovery.

Signed directly,
Former Rock Legend Zoey Flanders
Representative of the Otterian Senate

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An excerpt from the latest edition of the Zootopolis Times...

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Earlier today in a press conference inside St Bretton's Hall, Press Secretary Claudia Jean made a few statements about various domestic issues affecting Zootese people. Finally she moved onto the issue of recent events surrounding the nations of Amsterdon and Shaffey where they ceased all relations between themselves and The Otter Archipelago. Jean had this to say,

"Finally, the President would like to make it clear that he does not wish to intervene in the country's affairs and will let them settle this as they see fit."

When asked if the President approves of the moves by Amsterdon and Shaffey, Jean responded by saying

"No, he President does not approve of it and thinks that Amsterdon and Shaffey should be working with The Archipelago for the better of the region.".

One plucky journalist from another (and inferior) Zootese newspaper then challenged Jean and asked if the President was not contradicting himself given the recent ceasing of relations between Zootopolis and Shaffey to which Jean swiftly responded with

"Well, I believe the President had a good reason to end relations with Shaffey given that President Shaffey ordered a good friend of mine to be killed then proceeded to rub our noses in it despite our best intentions to try and bring peace between us and Shaffey. Look at Amsterdon, we sympathise with the losses they recently suffered at the hands of the Lilliputian, but to put some of the blame on The Archipelago with no evidence that the Archipelago had any involvement in the terrorist attack is over the top and quite stupid. Shaffey on the other hand appears to be jumping on to some kind of bandwagon in order to get some glory."


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The Federation of Amsterdon proudly announces that it is close to victory in the Amsterdonian-Liliputian war. Their air defences have been disabled, and their navy has been crushed. We are a mere 20 Kilometers from their Capital, and have captured their leader who shall be subject to a swift, yet fair trial. If found guilty of sponsoring the terrorist atrrocity he will be publicly hanged and his body placed on display as a warning to our enemies. We can confirm we have used the K9K9 weapon in certain controlled cases, and there has been no civilian loss of life due to the use of it. Other than that we refuse to reveal more details on the weapon.

So far our investigations are on going in regards to whether or not The Otter Archipelago has had involvement in the barbaric attack on our nation. We will provide updates on the situation as and when we discover information. Recent developments have only furthered our belief that you are an untrustworthy nation, and that your policy is one of interferring in countries internal affairs.

We would like to extend our thanks to the Kingdom of Zootopolis at their expression of sympathy in this tragic time for Amsterdon. We also respect their policy of allowing Sovereign nations to determine how they run their country, and not try to force unwanted changes upon them. This is a quality we respect, and we hope our 2 nations can build ties. We also recognise their concern regarding the relations of Amsterdon and the Otter Archipelago, however we feel at this time there is no possibility of improving the diplomatic situation, unless the Archipelago ceases its constant attempt to meddle in our nation's affairs.
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The United States of LeftDyke will remain neutral in this conflict, the nation's main priorities are regional development, something that is not possible unless all nations are at peace. LeftDyke will stand with the regional government when necessary to end all threats to the region.
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National Spokesperson Found Dead
Beloved mouthpiece of the Archipelago succumbs to mysterious toxin

PHILLIPS EXTINCTION LAGER ISLAND, 12:00 OST

The nation is in mourning tonight after it was announced by the Senate that Charisma Nettlebaum was found dead by three Bigtopian escorts who were apparently hired to entertain the national hero. 
'It's too early to jump to any assumptions,' says Clerg McDerboot, a local coroner, 'but the compounds we've discovered in Mr. Nettlebaum's blood stream are entirely alien to this laboratory.'  The lab was unavailable for further comment, citing an unrelated security breach.
The authorities will not confirm or deny if foul play is suspected. However, travel to and from the island has been restricted.  More details to follow.

Charisma Nettlebaum leaves behind 14 children by 23 separate women and an indelible mark in our nation's history.  Perhaps best known for single handedly ending the Shaffeygate Conflict by deploying a then-experimental satellite based anti-aggression weapon, his last bold act in office was to proclaim "So Long, and Thanks for all the Fish" the anthem of our proud nation.  Oddly fitting, in retrospect.
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