[canttakemyid]

QUOTE (GTA-King @ Monday, Apr 30 2012, 08:31)

intelligence > arrogance

exactly....

Intelligent Grand Theft Auto protag. (the guy in the picture is 45 btw)

Arrogant Saints Row Protag.


...I wouldn't care about the age of a protag.; just as long as he is more like the person in the first photo.

[Official General]

QUOTE (Miamivicecity @ Monday, Apr 30 2012, 11:18)

I wouldn't want to play as some young punk who thinks his own sh*t doesn't stink, but someone with inteligence. Maybe he's a failed college student who had the brains to succeed in a legitimate life, but turned to crime instead? I know this is hard for most foreigners to understand as only Aussies would really know, but a couple of years ago there was a show called UnderBelly: The Golden Mile and the main protagonist was a young Lebanese man named John Ibriham. It was based on a true story and he was involved in Sydney's King's Cross drug trade in the late 1980s and bought into a share of a nightclub. He was only in his late teens/early 20s too and quite smart. So I guess a young protagonist could work, but I don't want someone like CJ again. CJ was good in the way he was more human, but his youth radiated at certain times. I'd still rather an older protagonist as I believe their wisdom makes them feel less like running dogs, but a smart young guy could work. I mean lets face it CJ had no choice, but run to the top. I doubt he would've done it if he didn't have his nuts caught in a vice. This young protagonist should have the ambition to succeed like a younger version of Tommy.

@ Miami

That is what I mean, something like that or any other storyline idea that is not so over-used and is unique. The younger protagonist in GTA V does not need to be some arrogant, wild roughneck who thinks he's a serious bad ass and acts too clever for his own good. He can be a younger protagonist with a very interesting backdrop for a storyline and an equally interesting and complex personality and character that develops as we progress in the game further. And he does not need to be too young either - CJ's youth radiated simply, because he was very young, I believe he was 21 or 22 years old. In GTA V's case I'm more thinking of a guy around 27 years old, he has some criminal experience and history, but still is in the process of refining and perfecting his skills and attributes until he reaches his eventual goal, whatever it maybe in the game.

A much older protagonist has no room for this kind of interesting and exciting process, he's more than likely to have been there and done that, it would look silly if he was only just now attempting to learn the ropes and make it big time in the undeworld.

[GlaswegianOutlaw]

Again, Johnny is 34 (the oldest IV era protag), Billy Grey is late 30's, and Jim Fitzgerald is 45. All of these characters are completely badass asskickers, and they are 'old'.

I'd rather play as a guy like them than some 21 year old musclehead who swears in every sentence.

[WhitValid]

This was a very good thread thank you everybody who contributed. You've got me convinced that both young and old possibilities will be a blast.

[Official General]

QUOTE (GlaswegianOutlaw @ Monday, Apr 30 2012, 18:47)

Again, Johnny is 34 (the oldest IV era protag), Billy Grey is late 30's, and Jim Fitzgerald is 45. All of these characters are completely badass asskickers, and they are 'old'. I'd rather play as a guy like them than some 21 year old musclehead who swears in every sentence.

I have said this before on here many times. I do not care how "bad ass" the protagonist is, there is more to a GTA protagonist than simply being a bad ass. Anyone can go get a gun and go walking around like their a real bad ass, regardless of their age, that don't mean sh*t when you really think about it. I know an older guy can still kick ass, but so what ? There is are a number of other specific reasons, some of which I and others have already stated, as to why we do not want a middle-aged protagonist in GTA V.

And I don't remember anyone on here who wants a younger protagonist saying that they wanted a " 21 year old musclehead " that swears a lot. I certainly did not say that I want that, so I have no idea how you came up with that bullsh*t.

It's a great idea to think before you speak and not just say an random sh*t off the top of your head just because you think it makes sense or sounds right. You may end up just looking like a fool otherwise.

[D3L3TD]

QUOTE (canttakemyid @ Monday, Apr 30 2012, 13:24)

QUOTE (GTA-King @ Monday, Apr 30 2012, 08:31) intelligence > arrogance exactly.... Intelligent Grand Theft Auto protag. (the guy in the picture is 45 btw) http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Footba...08/18/JB24X.jpg Arrogant Saints Row Protag. http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo292/D...AGS/guido-2.jpg ...I wouldn't care about the age of a protag.; just as long as he is more like the person in the first photo.

THAT was a terrible comparison.

Unless you're just trying to prove a point. If so then I agree.

[GlaswegianOutlaw]

QUOTE (Official General @ Monday, Apr 30 2012, 20:09)

QUOTE (GlaswegianOutlaw @ Monday, Apr 30 2012, 18:47) Again, Johnny is 34 (the oldest IV era protag), Billy Grey is late 30's, and Jim Fitzgerald is 45. All of these characters are completely badass asskickers, and they are 'old'. I'd rather play as a guy like them than some 21 year old musclehead who swears in every sentence. I have said this before on here many times. I do not care how "bad ass" the protagonist is, there is more to a GTA protagonist than simply being a bad ass. Anyone can go get a gun and go walking around like their a real bad ass, regardless of their age, that don't mean sh*t when you really think about it. I know an older guy can still kick ass, but so what ? There is are a number of other specific reasons, some of which I and others have already stated, as to why we do not want a middle-aged protagonist in GTA V. And I don't remember anyone on here who wants a younger protagonist saying that they wanted a " 21 year old musclehead " that swears a lot. I certainly did not say that I want that, so I have no idea how you came up with that bullsh*t. It's a great idea to think before you speak and not just say an random sh*t off the top of your head just because you think it makes sense or sounds right. You may end up just looking like a fool otherwise.

First, settle down.

Second, the reason I mentioned the word badass is because people are talking sh*t like "Ooo, he's an old fart he'll break a hip", rather than offering constructive reasons. I get that you did offer reasons, but I still don't agree with them. Here's why.

It is a different view in a GTA game, to start at the top rather than to be a 'Rags-to-Riches' sort of game, which has definetely been done in GTA more than once. In my opinion, playing as someone who knows what he is doing, has experience of this line of work before and is intelligent would be much more satisfying.

My small post didn't require a three paragraph rant, nor did it require you to become a smart ass, loud-mouth arsehole.

[GTASAIDEAMASTER]

Gods.People bitch about GTA V and they don't know anything about it.
If it is Ned Luke,who cares?We will be able to do the same sh*t.
If it is not,same sh*t.What matters is they can kick some ass.I honestly don't give a f*ck if he has grey hair or no dick.Gods,stop being so picky.

Seriously,this is a childish discussion.

[canttakemyid]

QUOTE (D3L3TD @ Monday, Apr 30 2012, 16:28)

QUOTE (canttakemyid @ Monday, Apr 30 2012, 13:24) QUOTE (GTA-King @ Monday, Apr 30 2012, 08:31) intelligence > arrogance exactly.... Intelligent Grand Theft Auto protag. (the guy in the picture is 45 btw) http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Footba...08/18/JB24X.jpg Arrogant Saints Row Protag. http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo292/D...AGS/guido-2.jpg ...I wouldn't care about the age of a protag.; just as long as he is more like the person in the first photo. THAT was a terrible comparison. Unless you're just trying to prove a point. If so then I agree.

Trying to prove the point that a more reserved protag. - yet crazy when he needs to be - is the way to go. Not some wild arrogant punk.

*People portray the Ned Luke guy as out of shape and lacking energy when we haven't really seen him (trailer) in a situation where that energy and youthfulness is needed other than the robbery scene where he kicks open a door. People are simply drawing conclusions from their fear more so than from what little we have seen.

This post has been edited by canttakemyid on Monday, Apr 30 2012, 20:48

[Pilotmonkey]

QUOTE (ClaudeSpeedRulez @ Thursday, Feb 2 2012, 01:37)

The only people who are hating on Ned Luke are these retarded kids. They are too immature and do not understand the meaning of innovation that Rockstar is offering to us. In other words, what these kids are saying should not be taken so seriously, since their arguments are based on sh*t, being irrelevant and inconsistent.

agreed. They fight over Polygons on a screen.

[Pilotmonkey]

QUOTE (HydraulicWaRiOr @ Monday, Apr 30 2012, 02:58)

QUOTE (canttakemyid @ Monday, Apr 30 2012, 02:36) QUOTE (FCM @ Sunday, Apr 29 2012, 22:00) QUOTE (ThePinkFloydSound @ Wednesday, Feb 1 2012, 20:48) QUOTE (john blane @ Wednesday, Feb 1 2012, 21:08) a middleaged protag would suit the fan base.  many gta fans have been playing the series since the 90's.  many will be middle aged themselves.  a mature teen who played gta iii when it came out will be knocking 30yrs old now. r* are thinking of the fans.   Exactly. Rockstar said they wanted to make age-appropiate games. They said they know their fanbase is getting older as are they so that will be reflected in the games. I like middle-aged but then again middle-aged guys can be brilliant. You guys have seen Goodfellas, Casino, The Sopranos? Loads of middle-aged crazy feckers in those films. I played GTA since I'm 6 years old. THINK ABOUT ME PLEASE! I started playing at 7, but I can still appreciate a middle aged protag. with wisdom over some young thug who looks 'cool' (and I'm still not clear on what people mean by a 'cool' protag.). There will be no difference in the protag's physical abilities so I don't see the big deal. I'm tired of you and your affection for this f*cking stereotype. I'm tired of these bullsh*t ass greaseball GTA characters. If we were going play as a white guy, I'm pretty sure they wouldn't make him look like those annoying ass LCS, Vice City, and III assholes, so stop with your f*cking stupid ass soprano bullsh*t, your f*cking stupid ass Breaking Bad bullsh*t, and your retarded ass Heat bullsh*t. None of it should be relevant. I'm not saying we should go back to gangbanging, but I am most definitely tired of you and your sh*tty stereotype trailer idol. Go back and play VC if you and your buddies want a "Tommy Vercetti" protag, you ignorant bastards. [Supreme]

Your Life is not a fail. In soviet Russia It is

[Official General]

QUOTE (GlaswegianOutlaw @ Monday, Apr 30 2012, 20:32)

QUOTE (Official General @ Monday, Apr 30 2012, 20:09) QUOTE (GlaswegianOutlaw @ Monday, Apr 30 2012, 18:47) Again, Johnny is 34 (the oldest IV era protag), Billy Grey is late 30's, and Jim Fitzgerald is 45. All of these characters are completely badass asskickers, and they are 'old'. I'd rather play as a guy like them than some 21 year old musclehead who swears in every sentence. I have said this before on here many times. I do not care how "bad ass" the protagonist is, there is more to a GTA protagonist than simply being a bad ass. Anyone can go get a gun and go walking around like their a real bad ass, regardless of their age, that don't mean sh*t when you really think about it. I know an older guy can still kick ass, but so what ? There is are a number of other specific reasons, some of which I and others have already stated, as to why we do not want a middle-aged protagonist in GTA V. And I don't remember anyone on here who wants a younger protagonist saying that they wanted a " 21 year old musclehead " that swears a lot. I certainly did not say that I want that, so I have no idea how you came up with that bullsh*t. It's a great idea to think before you speak and not just say an random sh*t off the top of your head just because you think it makes sense or sounds right. You may end up just looking like a fool otherwise. First, settle down. Second, the reason I mentioned the word badass is because people are talking sh*t like "Ooo, he's an old fart he'll break a hip", rather than offering constructive reasons. I get that you did offer reasons, but I still don't agree with them. Here's why. It is a different view in a GTA game, to start at the top rather than to be a 'Rags-to-Riches' sort of game, which has definetely been done in GTA more than once. In my opinion, playing as someone who knows what he is doing, has experience of this line of work before and is intelligent would be much more satisfying. My small post didn't require a three paragraph rant, nor did it require you to become a smart ass, loud-mouth arsehole.

I'm settled.

I came at you because you brought up that tired, played-out comment along the lines of "old guys can still be bad ass and kick butt" aimed at those like me who don't wanna play as that middle-aged, older Ned Luke guy. I've heard it on here a million times now and it's getting old fast, no pun intended, and its getting on my nerves. We don't need a whole army of you guys convincing us an older guy can be bad ass, OK ? I only really had a pop at you for the " swearing musclehead" comment you made because I thought it sounded so incredibly stupid lol.

I'm pretty sure most people who oppose an older protagonist don't think he's physically unfit, there is more to it than that, not everyone is saying that, I've read the comments. And if they are, they are more than likely just joking about and older guy being physically unfit, its probably a bit of fun and said in jest to back up their reasons. And you seem to take it so seriously. People want a younger protagonist because either they just do or there is more to it than that.

And I did not say anything about a rags-to-riches story. Again where do you hear me say that ? All I stated was that I want a younger protagonist, as its more interesting to see his character and criminal career develop as I progress further through the game, it don't always mean its about rags-to-riches. A younger protagonist does not have to even start off poor. I did not specify the background, I just wanted a young protagonist for the reason I explained.

Read my posts properly and stop making sh*t up and having your own interpretations. And I will write what I want to write in length, that is up to me. If you wanna read it read it, if not you are not forced to respond.

This post has been edited by Official General on Monday, Apr 30 2012, 21:52

[azali10]

QUOTE (Official General @ Monday, Apr 30 2012, 18:38)

QUOTE (Miamivicecity @ Monday, Apr 30 2012, 11:18) I wouldn't want to play as some young punk who thinks his own sh*t doesn't stink, but someone with inteligence. Maybe he's a failed college student who had the brains to succeed in a legitimate life, but turned to crime instead? I know this is hard for most foreigners to understand as only Aussies would really know, but a couple of years ago there was a show called UnderBelly: The Golden Mile and the main protagonist was a young Lebanese man named John Ibriham. It was based on a true story and he was involved in Sydney's King's Cross drug trade in the late 1980s and bought into a share of a nightclub. He was only in his late teens/early 20s too and quite smart. So I guess a young protagonist could work, but I don't want someone like CJ again. CJ was good in the way he was more human, but his youth radiated at certain times. I'd still rather an older protagonist as I believe their wisdom makes them feel less like running dogs, but a smart young guy could work. I mean lets face it CJ had no choice, but run to the top. I doubt he would've done it if he didn't have his nuts caught in a vice. This young protagonist should have the ambition to succeed like a younger  version of Tommy. @ Miami That is what I mean, something like that or any other storyline idea that is not so over-used and is unique. The younger protagonist in GTA V does not need to be some arrogant, wild roughneck who thinks he's a serious bad ass and acts too clever for his own good. He can be a younger protagonist with a very interesting backdrop for a storyline and an equally interesting and complex personality and character that develops as we progress in the game further. And he does not need to be too young either - CJ's youth radiated simply, because he was very young, I believe he was 21 or 22 years old. In GTA V's case I'm more thinking of a guy around 27 years old, he has some criminal experience and history, but still is in the process of refining and perfecting his skills and attributes until he reaches his eventual goal, whatever it maybe in the game. A much older protagonist has no room for this kind of interesting and exciting process, he's more than likely to have been there and done that, it would look silly if he was only just now attempting to learn the ropes and make it big time in the undeworld.

How about he starts out all arrogant, thinking he's hot sh*t and all of that, but slowly as the story progresses and he's drawn farther into whatever is going on in the story he becomes more mature. We'd get some character development out of that. Mayde they could make it riches-to rags-to riches again.

[DarrinPA]

QUOTE (Miamivicecity @ Monday, Apr 30 2012, 04:25)

I'm not fussed about his physical attributes. Johnny would have to be the most unfit protagonist to date with his limp yet it didnt't affect TLAD and he could still run and jump things to a degree. As long as he (Ned Luke) can point, aim and shoot and move around in the heat of battle that's all I want. He doesn't need to be an olympic track star IMO.

I guess my concern about his physical abilities comes from the fact that San Andreas is a very vertical, in the sense of climbing, where as Liberty City only required running up flights of stairs - or taking the elevator.

[theworldfamous]

Middle aged people are f'ing insane. I really don't care. Rockstar's protagonists are usually different from the norm. When Niko was first revealed, people were like: really? But it usually works out.

[austinkopeck]

Es ist mir egal, wenn Sie herausfinden, oder dick zu werden. Ich will, dass er in der Lage, Kleider, klettern, schwimmen und zu ändern. Haircuts wäre auch cool, aber ich möchte nicht in der Lage, aus kahlen zu einem grünen Irokesenschnitt zu gehen.

[AtomicPunk]

^Beans and disease to you too! LOL

There are several posters here who hate Ned Luke simply because he is white. I've read the B.S.. It's gonna rock no matter if they made Elmo the fu**in' muppet the protag.

[StarFyer]

QUOTE (GTASAIDEAMASTER @ Monday, Apr 30 2012, 15:36)

Gods.People bitch about GTA V and they don't know anything about it. If it is Ned Luke,who cares?We will be able to do the same sh*t. If it is not,same sh*t.What matters is they can kick some ass.I honestly don't give a f*ck if he has grey hair or no dick.Gods,stop being so picky. Seriously,this is a childish discussion.

You're talking to a bunch of people who think their opinion and what they want is the only thing that matters and anyone who doesn't agree is wrong.

[Ryan]

QUOTE (austinkopeck @ Monday, Apr 30 2012, 20:26)

Es ist mir egal, wenn Sie herausfinden, oder dick zu werden. Ich will, dass er in der Lage, Kleider, klettern, schwimmen und zu ändern. Haircuts wäre auch cool, aber ich möchte nicht in der Lage, aus kahlen zu einem grünen Irokesenschnitt zu gehen.

This is an English speaking forum, so speak it please.

[the nameless]

I never even heard of Ned Luke until the V trailer. I dont mind him, he sounds like a great GTA character, just don't fancy playing as a 50+ year old, as the guy who is thought to be the Ned Luke character looks. If there is indeed 5 protags as has been thought off, then that would be fine - I would even welcome an older, sophistocated protagonist for a bit, but if there is just 1, I'd rather have a 20-30ish guy.