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Yeah man, just try your best to ignore Slamman. I honestly don't know what fuels him to post sooooooo much f*cking useless information. I'm just guessing he doesn't have anything else better to do.
And yeah, I think season 5 we will witness the fully evolved Walt. It's been building up since season 1. And I am also very curious to see how Skyler deals with knowing what Walt is capable of. The dude bombed a retirement home for f*ck sake! It seems to me that "Heisenberg" turns her on. Remember that episode when Walt starts fingering her during that meeting at school? Then afterwards he f*cks her in the Aztek. She says, "why did that feel so good?" and Walt replies, "Because it was illegal." So I'm willing to bet that Walt and Sklyer will be sorta like a modern day Bonnie and Clyde.
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Yeah I could see that actually. We even saw a bit of gangster Skyler when she called those men on Ted to get the money to protect her sell, she didn't give a f*ck about him.
Talking of Ted, what happened there ? Is he dead and if so why has Skyler not reacted to it ?
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I was wondering the same thing. I think the writers meant to leave his fate up in the air like that. However, Saul's bodyguard did mention that it was an "act of God." So who knows. If he did die, I wonder what would happen to his company. I mean, the debt is paid off now. Image if Skyler now owns it. Could be another front for Walt to launder his money.
I was thinking that if Walt wants to get back into the meth game now that it's basically free territory, he would use his carwash as a front for a super lab. Imagine how crazy that would be! A car wash would be perfect to hide a meth lab. Air filters, chemicals ect. ect. The writers could have planned this since the beginning.
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I assumed Ted was dead, I just found it a bit weird how Skyler has yet to find out and even if she had did not give a f*ck. If Walt does become some massive drug crime lord then I hope his cancer gets the better off him by the end, not because it annoys me that Walt has become antagonist I just wouldn't want the show to finish with Walt now a massive meth distributor as it leaves a very uncertain future that we will never know of.
Walt is not going to end up in a good place, there's no way. But a bad place doesn't have to be 6 feet under. There's other things they could do to destroy him.
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QUOTE (Knife @ Tuesday, Jan 10 2012, 14:38)
Walt is not going to end up in a good place, there's no way. But a bad place doesn't have to be 6 feet under. There's other things they could do to destroy him.
Understandable but any other ending for me personally would not be fitting. Say he is caught and ended up in Jail, thats a future I would want to know about. I suppose you could have Skyler finally deserting him for good and end on Walt as a ruined man.
I could easily see them keeping him alive but completely f*cked up physically. Like in a vegetative state or horribly disfigured. Death seems like an easy way out.
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QUOTE (Knife @ Tuesday, Jan 10 2012, 15:15)
I could easily see them keeping him alive but completely f*cked up physically. Like in a vegetative state or horribly disfigured. Death seems like an easy way out.
It might seem easy but its the main driving force behind Walt, his clock is ticking away and he wants to secure his family as best he can, the cancer was the start of it and I believe it will also be the end.
Also I think the most interesting element of the next season is Hanks story. He's so close yet so far from knowing the full story and now Herbert (think that was his name) was caught in an explosion with Gus after just visiting the DEA but he is nowhere near knowing the full story.
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Well, Walt IS now the antagonist. This is essentially what the show has been about from the start. A good guy who turns into a bag guy. BREAKING bad. I believe the writers will close out this show with no loose ends. About Walter White's fate, I remember hearing somewhere that Vince Gilligan has always had the intention of killing Walt at the end. The manner in which he dies is the question. His cancer could come back, which will cause him to do more drastic things. And about Hank, I'm pretty sure he is now known as a hero to the DEA for uncovering the truth about Gus. I mean, he was right all along. I'm wondering how long it will take until the DEA looks at the surveillance footage on Gus' computer. Walt is on that computer, so I wonder how that will play out.
I'd bet that the DEA has now given Hank his own tactical team and a promotion. Will he label Gus as "Heisenberg"? Or will he continue to pursue? My guess is the second one. All I know is Walt better watch out because Hank is now gong to be stronger. Also would like to mention Gus' past. Obviously he was an important person in Chillie. But how important? Don Eladio said the only reason he didn't kill him was because he knew about his past. This could come back to bite Walt in the ass.
Oh, and here is a video where Bryan Cranston discusses the fate of Walter White.
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QUOTE (GTA-King @ Tuesday, Jan 10 2012, 17:32)
Well, Walt IS now the antagonist.
I don't think the metamorphosis has finished yet, I still consider him as a Protagonist as the audience is still hoping for his succsess as he is still at the end of the day doing this for his family, no doubt though season 5 will start the greed aspect. He won't be the antagonist until we actually want to see Walt go down, I think the Lily poisoning signifys the final change. For Walt to be the shows antagonists aswell you need someone to fill the role of Protagonist, the only two candidates I can see for that are Hank and Jesse.
To Break Bad I believe Walt has to change from doing bad things for good reasons to doing bad things for bad reasons, and this is what I think season 5 will be about. As the saying "When you stare into an abyss for a long time, the abyss also stares into you"
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True, we haven't seen him in his absolute true form yet. He has done alot of bad things to be considered an antagonist now though. That's why the show focuses on more then one character. And now, we will have to choose who to root for. I will always root for Walt though since I always do that with bad guys. Just something about bad guys in movies I like. I have always rooted for Hannibal Lecter, Darth Vader, Tony Montana, ect. I find them more interesting then the protagonist.
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QUOTE (GTA-King @ Tuesday, Jan 10 2012, 17:54)
True, we haven't seen him in his absolute true form yet. He has done alot of bad things to be considered an antagonist now though. That's why the show focuses on more then one character. And now, we will have to choose who to root for. I will always root for Walt though since I always do that with bad guys. Just something about bad guys in movies I like. I have always rooted for Hannibal Lecter, Darth Vader, Tony Montana, ect. I find them more interesting then the protagonist.
All the bad things he has done though, he has been pushed to do (Except the Lily!). All he wanted to do was make meth for Gus and save money for his family but events led him to the only option of killing Gus for the safety of his own family. If he had killed Gus to gain control of the meth trade it would of been different.
I just can't call him antagonist until I see him do something bad for the sake of making more money, i.e. killing of competition or something along those lines as everything he has done thus far has been in the end to protect someone whether it be his family, Hank or even Jesse.
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That's understandable. Everything has been in the best interest of his family. Just the ways in which he has done them are often blinding, and morally challenging. With Gus dead, I'm wondering what Walt will do now. Will he go back to teaching? Live his life like normal again? Will he succumb to his pride yet again and take over Gus' fallen empire? This is what I think the most of about season 5. Where it will take us.
Interesting new articles about season 5. It seems that Vince might want to put the focus back on Walt & Jesse's relationship again. It was kinda lacking due to Gus keeping them apart during season 4, so it would be nice to see this again. I expect a big build up as well. They're all friendly, then suddenly... BAM "I watched Jane die, and I didn't anything about it" KA-POW"I poisoned Brock to get you back on my side."
Season 5 is going to be so epic. I'm very curious to see how and why Walt gets back into the meth game. With Gus dead and the cartel wiped out, it's pretty much open territory for Walt.
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Pretty much confirms that season 5 will start airing in July.
I've been of the belief from the start that Jesse would be the one to kill Walt. And the way in which things are going- it seems more and more possible that Jesse will kill him.
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Makes me happy to see this bumped. I was planning on bumping it once I found out the official premier date of season 5. But it's still fun to speculate!
@Niko Vercetti 112: I'm thinking Jesse killing Walt would be the most satisfying ending. Walt has put him through so much, he deserves to die by Jesse's hands. Don't underestimate the writers though. They always go for the least expected angle.
@Sauron: na, that would suck. My theory is that Walt gets his diagnosis back (remember his screening in season 4? we never seen the results) and it turns out his cancer has returned. The family already has the car wash, so they really don't need money anymore right? Wrong. We all know how Walt's pride is. He will do something drastic if he lears his cancer is back. Like get back into the meth game, even though he doesn't have to, does it anyway because of his big ego. I'd imagine he'd ask Jesse for help again, and Jesse saying how crazy he is wanting to return to cooking meth.
With Gus dead, and the cartel wiped out, it's pretty much open territory for Walt. I imagine season 5 will be about Walt becoming the new drug kingpin. Afterall, Vince Gilligan's goal was to make Walter White change from "Mr. Chips to Scarface" as the series went on. It's time to see Walt in Scarface mode.
So much could happen. Walt could make the car wash a front for a super lab (the chemicals would be good cover). If Ted is actually dead, what will happen to the company? Perhaps he left it to Skyler? If so, depending on how she feels about Walt's "I won" line, Walt would start laundering the drug money through the company, while Skyler cooked the books. It would be so perfect. Walt would be the new Gus. I'd imagine when Mike returns from Mexico and learns Gus is dead, he will be pissed at first, but eventually works for Walt as his enforcer. Jesse could run Walt's lab. Mike could hire goons, Skyler launders the money. Would be the perfect criminal empire for Walt. And Hank, hot on the trail again. Finds out someone is peddling meth in New Mexico again. But little does he know, it's his own brother-in-law. Heisenberg.
I f*cking love Breaking Bad. Enough said.
Oh, and here's a great new article I just found. Will get you pumped up for season 5.
