[Magic_Al]

QUOTE (Karambalaya @ Tuesday, Apr 3 2012, 15:12)

How do you know that Chinatown Wars is set after the events in GTAIV/TLAD/TBOGT? (I must admit that I haven't played CTW..)

Huang Lee argues with his traditionalist uncle, "this is 2009 not 1403." GTA IV/EFLC has multiple in-game references to 2008. However besides sharing the same city the 2008 and 2009 characters and storylines have no crossover except for the same organizations/businesses/gangs existing, and the LCPD database listing characters from both storylines to confirm it's the same continuity, or at least parallel universes.

[nightwalker83]

QUOTE (ccrogers15 @ Thursday, Nov 10 2011, 08:04)

QUOTE (Lampka12 @ Wednesday, Nov 9 2011, 20:31) It's not Silent Hill. All of them are correct. im a hardcore silent hill fan and silent hill always has 2 correct endings for the first 4 games. SH1: Ending where cybil dies and ending where cybil and harry lives is correct. SH2: Ending where he leaves with laura and ending where he drowns himself is correct. SH3: Ending where she kills douglas or ending where she leaves with douglass. SH4: Ending where eileen lives or ending where eileen dies.

Not this again! I remember a big arguement on SilentHillForums.co.uk about this years ago.

[meimeilarry]

I was planning on playing through IV's story one last time and I want to play it canonically.


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QUOTE (meimeilarry @ Thursday, Apr 5 2012, 05:57)

I was planning on playing through IV's story one last time and I want to play it canonically. __________________ RS GoldCheap WOW Gold

As The Streets once said..

"Do what you think's right, and you will feel alright"

[MrDanceWithLance]

I reckon GTA IV's Revenge ending was the proper canon ending. If Niko couldn't handle the selling out of his army unit by Darko, then how could he handle Dimitri's betrayal? Throughout the game, he is thirsting for revenge on Dimitri for his betrayal, and I don't know why he would want to pass up that opportunity. Also Kate's a b*tch. I don't care about the fact that she got killed.

[Ziggy455]

Correct me if I'm wrong but I think that the DEAL ending is the canon ending.

I mean if we look at III, Vice City and Andreas the formula for the games is you usually meet the main antagonist early (Catalina, Sonny and Tenpenny) and well - Pegorino didn't seem like much of a final ending to the game. I believe the ending where you kill the man who has betrayed you since almost the start of the game and your cousin dies is more fitting to the formula of every other GTA game.

May I state this is just my opinion?

[Florz]

There is no CORRECT ending.

If you take the money, Roman dies.

If you don't take the money, your Girlfriend Katie dies.

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QUOTE (MrDanceWithLance @ Friday, Apr 6 2012, 05:15)

I reckon GTA IV's Revenge ending was the proper canon ending. If Niko couldn't handle the selling out of his army unit by Darko, then how could he handle Dimitri's betrayal? Throughout the game, he is thirsting for revenge on Dimitri for his betrayal, and I don't know why he would want to pass up that opportunity. Also Kate's a b*tch. I don't care about the fact that she got killed.

So you think the most fitting ending is the one you don't even care about?

[MrDanceWithLance]

What I am saying is that the Revenge ending is the ending I believe to be canon. What I also said is that I am glad that Kate died. That's all.

[SmC12]

Like everyone else said there is no "correct" ending. But for me personally, I felt that revenge was the correct ending. I was more satisfied with it, and although there was still consequences, they weren't as bad I mean you'd only known Kate for a very short time, sure it meant alot to your relationship with the McReary's, but it wasn't Niko's problem that she got killed. I just felt Revenge was much more logical after everything Roman and Niko had been through. How could you be happy giving in to the very thing you've been fighting all this time by chosing Deal?

[MrDanceWithLance]

QUOTE (SmC12 @ Friday, Apr 13 2012, 02:13)

Like everyone else said there is no "correct" ending. But for me personally, I felt that revenge was the correct ending. I was more satisfied with it, and although there was still consequences, they weren't as bad I mean you'd only known Kate for a very short time, sure it meant alot to your relationship with the McReary's, but it wasn't Niko's problem that she got killed. I just felt Revenge was much more logical after everything Roman and Niko had been through. How could you be happy giving in to the very thing you've been fighting all this time by chosing Deal?

I totally agree with you. Niko couldn't get over Darko's betrayal of his unit, so how can he handle Dimitri's betrayal? I don't think he is the guy to throw away his one opportunity for revenge just for some dollars.

[GrandTheftAuto 5SA]

I think revenge, because you can see the smoke from the plane explosion of the last mission of TBOGT

[CJ killed Ryder]

Revenge is canon. If Packie McReary returns to GTA V I'm sure he will make references to the death of Francis and Kate.

Revenge also has better missions such as the mission on the Platypus ship.

This post has been edited by CJ killed Ryder on Monday, Apr 23 2012, 19:59

[CJ killed Ryder]

QUOTE (AceRay @ Wednesday, Jan 25 2012, 21:53)

QUOTE (acmilano @ Thursday, Jan 26 2012, 07:43) Maybe TBOGT credits gives the answer.If Kate dies then Packie calls Niko and says how he now needs to stay with his mother becouse he's all that is left to her.And in TBOGT credits we saw him going to airport and leaving the city,which means somebodystays with his mother and that could only be Kate,becouse Gerry is in jail and Francis and Derrick areone dead and other is no longer considered a family. Also Roman'sdeath is much more tragical than Kate and Dimitri is Niko's real enemy,not Pegorino so he should die in last mission. Nice post. I don't think Packie would leave his mother if he was the only one there for her. The only thing is that if Niko kills Francis then I suppose that Derrick could support her but his drug addiction would probably get in the way. I think this more or less confirms that Deal is canon. 123iamking: We're not discussing which ending is BETTER, just which one is canon, and its painfully obvious that Deal is. I personally prefer the Revenge ending gameplay wise and it COULD have been emotional if Kate wasn't such an unlikable b*tch.

Well, maybe Packie's mother dies a few weeks after Kate's death and Packie leaving to Los Santos, trying to build up a new future.

[urbanfire]

Although I preferred revenge ending because I love roman's taxi service Im going to have to go with deal on this. It seems to be a more befitting end which wraps up the story initially begun with a bookended moral lesson.

Niko came to Liberty city seeking the "American Dream" Roman had boasted about all too often. In the end he finds out that this dream is just a facade and that he lost more than just a vision, He lost his beloved cousin Roman, the very catalyst that brought him to this foreign lands. Now that's some deep sh*t. It has morals lessons, that greed can be your undoing, and that the "American Dream" is a lie for foreigners.

[CJ killed Ryder]

QUOTE (AceRay @ Sunday, Jan 15 2012, 06:31)

I don't think Niko could be that stupid.

Niko is not stupid because he knows that Dimitri will betray him again if he does the deal. That's why he choses revenge.

[Jimbatron]

QUOTE (CJ killed Ryder @ Wednesday, Apr 25 2012, 10:44)

QUOTE (AceRay @ Sunday, Jan 15 2012, 06:31) I don't think Niko could be that stupid. Niko is not stupid because he knows that Dimitri will betray him again if he does the deal. That's why he choses revenge.

If it wasn't for the events of "That Special Some One", I think I would agree that "Revenge" would be the only realistic option. However, that episode leaves you with a very strong message that revenge does not pay - which ever option you choose in that mission, which comes very shortly before the choice presented in "One Last Thing".

I've said it before, and I will say it again, the main reason for the Darko plot device, is to give the final choice in the game some meaning. The story is not really about Niko v Darko - that is to do with his past, before you pick up the action as a player. The story of IV is really about Niko v Dimitri. But if you didn't have "That Special Someone", everyone would pick "Revenge". The episode with Darko is designed to make it more of a dilema based on your recent experience - and very cleverly done by R* in my oppinion.

The bottom line is there is no evidence that suggest either choice is cannon. Both can represent a consistent play through. We have discussed the overlaps between the trilogy here:

http://www.gtaforums.com/index.php?showtopic=430301

and there is no definitive proof from either TLAD or TBOGT that either "Deal" or "Revenge" must be taken - either can be consistent.

The only way we will know is if a specific reference in V crops up to certain characters in IV, but my personal view is R* will never answer this question to maintain a valid open ended choice for the player. There's been a lot of oppinionate discussion about whether IV characters may return, but my view is that we will not see either Roman or Kate again, or hear about them. Some characters that could come back in theory without disrupting the plot might be Brucie, Little Jacob, or Packie, although the latter would have to remain tight lipped about his family and how they are all doing at the present.

My advice is anyway to players is to save before "One Last Thing" and play through both endings!

[PINKbubblegum]

personally, id rarther that kate dies than roman, niko can survive without her, but roman is family.

[Catsville]

Actually, you'll notice that in GTA: Chinatown Wars, Roman's Cab Business is back up and running, and no longer torched, I think CW is in 2009. This may be a clue leading to Revenge being the real ending (I hope it is).

[Inchun]

I don't think this is a matter of what is right or wrong, rather preference.

With that said, I prefer the "revenge" ending, only because Roman survives. The first I played through this game, I got Roman killed, and I was literally hurt. I've never felt like that from a video game ever before... Besides, Kate is a stuck up b*tch. >.>