[Marlowe.]

QUOTE (GTAvanja @ Saturday, May 19 2012, 09:17)

Also, a movie?

Probably not now that Dan Harmon is no longer the showrunnner and he may not be back at all next season.

Frowny Face.

This post has been edited by Marlowe. on Saturday, May 19 2012, 07:07

[SIKKS66]

QUOTE (mark-2007 @ Friday, May 18 2012, 16:34)

Where do you/other UK folk watch Community, is it on any tv channel or Netflix? I can't seem to find it.

Yaaarrrrgh! Can't be telling you that laddy.

Planning on getting the boxsets though once I can track them down. Apparently the bonus commentary is hilarious.

Sucks about Harmon. I hope they keep him involved in some way. Bringing in someone with a new vision could go either way really. Disastrous or maybe put a new spin on things.

Edit: Dan Harmon's take on things. Well sh*t. What a lousy way to treat a genius.

This post has been edited by SIKKS66 on Saturday, May 19 2012, 22:55

[Pagelzilla]

SEASON 4 STARTS TOMORROW!

I'm really excited/nervous about this (final) season of the show. With no Dan Harmon at the helm let's hope the editors, writers, and directors put in the same care and attention to detail that Harmon brought into it. Also without Pierce and with Chang having amnesia and becoming a member of the group, who will be the new villain? Personally, I think this show is at its absolute best when the writers just let the characters personalities bounce off one another. For example, the bottle episode with Annie's pen, and Troy's 21st birthday party were two of my favorite episodes. Hopefully we see more episodes like those. Not that I don't enjoy the crazy ones - obviously those are the most memorable and epic - but this show can be so touching and moving in really simple ways. And that's what I love about it

[guib]

QUOTE (Pagelzilla @ Wednesday, Feb 6 2013, 15:48)

with Chang having amnesia

I already see him revealing that he faked it, only to become a member of the study group.

I really think that the show isn't gonna Chang just because Dan Harmon left. Too bad that this season only contains 13 episodes though...

About Chevy leaving the show, it is a shame really, but his character wasn't my favorite of the group anyway, besides, Chevy is streets behind...

This post has been edited by guib on Wednesday, Feb 6 2013, 16:19

[Pagelzilla]

I see what you did there

Plus Chevy is a notorious asshole and is VERY difficult to work with. I just finished watching a lot of the commentaries from all three seasons and it is clear that nobody liked working with him.

[guib]

QUOTE (Pagelzilla @ Wednesday, Feb 6 2013, 18:00)

Plus Chevy is a notorious asshole and is VERY difficult to work with. I just finished watching a lot of the commentaries from all three seasons and it is clear that nobody liked working with him.

Yeah, he and his character are basically the same guy...

[Johnny Playert]

This is a great sitcom man, good humor and by god does Alison Brie look cute or what?

[Pagelzilla]

Oh, fersher

Dan Harmon said that he didn't want to sexualize her character initially but Allison is oozing with so much hotness that it eventually turned into the character she is now. Thank goodness

[I So Brink]

I can't be the only one who thinks the show just needs to f*cking die as soon as possible to retain any dignity it had, can I?

I absolutely loved the first two seasons. I watched the entire run of them in about 2 weeks. Then season 3 came, with a budget that was so obviously larger it directly influenced the feel of the show. It jumped the shark is what I'm saying. Season three came and they took the high concept stuff that had worked in S1-2 when deployed sporadically (e.g. the paintball episodes, the claymation episode, the space simulator episode etc.) and just turned it up to 11. The whole air-conditioner repair school arc was just f*cking stupid, like some sort of purple-monkey-dishwasher-lol-random type humour.

Not to mention what happened to most of the characters. Pierce was already grating on me in S2 and he just became excessive in S3. He annoyed me, and I don't mean I disliked the sort of person his character was because that's what's mean to happen, he's an asshole. I mean the character annoyed me; he was moustache twirlingly, saturday morning cartoon style evil. He had literally no reason to be such a dick like 60% of the time, at least put in some sort of motivation please! Then you get Chang who from season 1's end was on the decline. He went from a hilarious example of short man syndrome where he lauded his miniscule amount of power over everyone below him, to someone a bit pathetic, to a genuinely mentally ill person who again just exists to provide lol-random humour.

But the worst is Britta. In both season 1 and 2 she was an insufferable hipster liberal but still a relatively intelligent and informed person (for example, the whole Guatemala protest she inadvertently organises in the second episode), but by the end of S3 she's some ridiculous strawman character that you'd expect a right-wing nut to create when he was trying to make college-age left wing liberals look stupid. S1 Britta and S3 Britta are literally completely different characters. It's as if she underwent a gradual lobotomy towards the end of S2 and it was complete after the break when they came back for S3.

I agree with Pagelzilla in that the episode with Troy's 21st being one of the best, and it's not hard to figure out why I think so. There's no Chang, for one. There's very little Pierce. It's very grounded and all the humour is based around the central theme of the episode: getting older and supposedly maturing. Jeff and Britta play their roles of the grown up adults of the group (because as we've said Pierce is practically a cartoon character, and Shirley exists in only two states: to laugh at religious people or to be the sassy black woman, the politics of which I won't go into), even if it does eventually turn out they're just full of sh*t.

I'll probably pick up S4 once it's all aired, but if the first episode or two are in the same vein as S3, I won't bother watching through to the end.

This post has been edited by I So Brink on Wednesday, Feb 6 2013, 21:39

[Johnny Playert]

QUOTE (Pagelzilla @ Wednesday, Feb 6 2013, 21:54)

Oh, fersher Dan Harmon said that he didn't want to sexualize her character initially but Allison is oozing with so much hotness that it eventually turned into the character she is now.  Thank goodness

Yeah, i can imagine. That girl is just mad cute and mad hot at the same time, really.

[Loman]

I've never watched this show. I've wanted to but I never catch it when it's on. I am a fan of Donald Glover after seeing him do standup and watching the movie Mystery Team. Anyone else see it? It's funny as hell imo.

[Pagelzilla]

QUOTE (I So Brink @ Wednesday, Feb 6 2013, 15:30)

I'll probably pick up S4 once it's all aired, but if the first episode or two are in the same vein as S3, I won't bother watching through to the end.

I can see where you're coming from with a lot of your points. The show definitely changed from the first season with the group getting into more and more ridiculous scenarios. However, I find that endearing, not annoying. The fact that this show can do so much, make fun of itself and be meta, and still make me give a damn about the plight of these people is impressive.

Britta's journey from a well-intentioned, liberal woman to a well-intentioned, liberal woman who everyone makes fun of is freaking hilarious to me. It's like when you get to know someone really well who you used to think knew more about something than you only to find out that they don't know nearly as much as you thought they did. Britta has always been vain, selfish, narcissistic, and loyal. Everyone is now just calling her out on it.

Pierce can be really frustrating, I agree. But I think it's clear his only motivation for being evil is to be accepted. He just executes his ideas in horrible ways that makes everyone hate him more.

Chang has gone from an authority figure to a pathetic student to a pathetic authority figure. It's just the arc his character needs. I hope in this season he is more accepted by the group and can be more grounded-crazy like in the first two seasons.

But I will be the first to agree with you that the air conditioning repair school wasn't funny. Please, community writers, drop that like it's hot.

Speaking of writers, they did a wonderful AMA on reddit last night. They make it sound like there's actually a decent chance of a fifth season. Also how that uncertainty changed the way they wrote the finale.

http://www.reddit.com/r/community/comments..._community_ama/

Everyone enjoy the season premiere tonight!

[komalr]

@ Loman : Just saw it. It's damn funny as hell

Has anyone watched this youtube channel. It's the guys from the movie, funny as hell.



This post has been edited by komalr on Thursday, Feb 7 2013, 17:41

[Fnorg]

Was anyone else woefully underwhelmed with S4E1? I just wasn't feeling it.

[GTAvanja]

QUOTE (Fnorg @ Sunday, Feb 10 2013, 15:41)

Was anyone else woefully underwhelmed with S4E1? I just wasn't feeling it.

That's what happens when you get rid of the guy who made the show what it is.

[darthYENIK]

It did remind me of how much of a crush I had on Alison Brie.

[komalr]

Ya, it wasn't that great. They tried to put so much, in so little. Though i'm probably gonna watch 3-4 episodes before I'll stop watching it.

Anybody here like professor Ian Duncan? Or is it just me. They should put more of him in the show and Pierce, Chevy Chase just has great comedy timing.

[Pagelzilla]

The guy who plays Ian Duncan was busy with the Daily Show's election coverage while they were filming the 4th season.

I agree, this was not a strong episode of community. The shortest way I can describe 401 is this: Shallow. Every part of it felt a little forced and just a little different in all the wrong ways. I like that they were making a statement about how awful the show could be if they pandered to what NBC wants, but they didn't find their footing in the core of the episode. Annie seemed different, too. Her personality just seemed...off. As did Troy. The lucky charms joke kinda made me cringe. The less obvious change was the way the episode was edited. There were a lot more close-ups on character's faces which didn't jive with previous seasons. I know that is specific and picky but these are the things the long-time fans notice.

Also I think a reason I'm so critical of this is because I had to go back to my parent's house to watch this (I don't have cable) and my stepdad watched it with me, not having ever seen the show before. I had to try and explain what the show was trying to say and justify how crazy the episode was to him. But I couldn't even convince myself that this was a good season opener. I ended up telling him, "This wasn't a strong episode, usually it's really good!" Which made it seem much more certain for me that it struck the wrong notes.

I'm REALLY hopeful for the rest of the season, and I will, of course, watch them all with the same (perhaps misplaced) level of anticipation I felt for this one. I'm rooting for this show with all my heart.

[SIKKS66]

QUOTE (Pagelzilla @ Monday, Feb 11 2013, 16:12)

The guy who plays Ian Duncan was busy with the Daily Show's election coverage while they were filming the 4th season. I agree, this was not a strong episode of community. The shortest way I can describe 401 is this: Shallow. Every part of it felt a little forced and just a little different in all the wrong ways. I like that they were making a statement about how awful the show could be if they pandered to what NBC wants, but they didn't find their footing in the core of the episode. Annie seemed different, too. Her personality just seemed...off. As did Troy. The lucky charms joke kinda made me cringe. The less obvious change was the way the episode was edited. There were a lot more close-ups on character's faces which didn't jive with previous seasons. I know that is specific and picky but these are the things the long-time fans notice. Also I think a reason I'm so critical of this is because I had to go back to my parent's house to watch this (I don't have cable) and my stepdad watched it with me, not having ever seen the show before. I had to try and explain what the show was trying to say and justify how crazy the episode was to him. But I couldn't even convince myself that this was a good season opener. I ended up telling him, "This wasn't a strong episode, usually it's really good!" Which made it seem much more certain for me that it struck the wrong notes. I'm REALLY hopeful for the rest of the season, and I will, of course, watch them all with the same (perhaps misplaced) level of anticipation I felt for this one. I'm rooting for this show with all my heart.

Nicely put. I'll stick around for the rest of the season but something was definitely off for episode one.

[guib]

I totally disagree, it maybe was a little rushed...
But it had all the elements of a standard episode of Community.
And claiming that it is terrible, just because Dan Harmon is fired is just insane...
Besides, they made a huge character development in Abed, he dealt with a changing environmental without help or a "Winger" speech, instead he just made up a "Winger" speech in his head!

And I loved the intro, it was awesome. Y'all are just too negative!