[ludi911]

soo far it look cool but it is not difficult at all
but i know that are first steps

[Revolution-Designes]

The difficult will be increased with more health for the zombies for example.

[ludi911]

i have an idea - change camera view make it more close to player back all the time (like in RE4)
small stuff but i think it will look awsome and it will fit surviwal horror mod like that
edit another idea : what about changing the pistol hold anim to make CJ hold pistol with two hands ?
Now he look to relaxed when he shoot
what you think ?

This post has been edited by ludi911 on Friday, Sep 16 2011, 11:13

[Revolution-Designes]

QUOTE (ludi911 @ Friday, Sep 16 2011, 13:11)

i have an idea - change camera view make it more close to player back all the time (like in RE4) small stuff but i think it will look awsome and it will fit surviwal horror mod like that edit another idea : what about changing the pistol hold anim to make CJ hold pistol with two hands ? Now he look to relaxed when he shoot what you think ?

You can adjust the camera yourself, this is the second camera option for when you're on foot, you can zoom in a little more yourself if you want.

You're right about the pistol animation, only problem is, is that it's probably pretty hard to edit that animation as your arm rotates with the point you're aiming at. And if we are going to edit animations, we're going to do it later. We first want to finish the major stuff, like the scripts and textures. Other stuff will come later when the basics are finished.

[oksa8]

How about using same anims as silenced pistol uses? It's simple edit of default.ide and weapons.dat, and I can help you if you don't know what to change. And if you're planning on creating new weapons, I can help making configs for those too.

[bull.04]

I actually did make a couple of zombie animations this past couple of days that you can use if you want Revolution.
Idle:
Run:
Walk:

Here is a picture of the witch's sprint animation:


I didn't post a 3ds render of the sprint cause the arms are screwy in 3ds but work perfectly in game.

[Revolution-Designes]

@oksa8: That would be awesome, I tried to edit the weapon.dat file a few minutes ago but without succes. If you could help at that one, it would be great.

@bull.04: Looks great, I'll speak to you over Steam.

[oksa8]

Ok, here's a small demonstration of what I can do to weapons.
Changed:

Now holding pistol with two hands, and no dual wielding.
Smaller range
Less damage
Higher rate of fire
Modified accuracy

Default.ide:

CODE

346, colt45, colt45, silenced, 1, 30, 0

Weapons.dat:

CODE

$ PISTOL   INSTANT_HIT 20.0 25.0 346 -1  2 silenced 17  10  0.25  0.05  0.09     0  0 0.75 1.0   6 12  6     6 12  6  99 3031 $ PISTOL   INSTANT_HIT 20.0 25.0 346 -1  2 silenced 17  10  0.25  0.05  0.09 1  40 1.0  1.0   6 12  6     6 12  6  99 3031 $ PISTOL   INSTANT_HIT 20.0 25.0 346 -1  2 silenced 17  10  0.25  0.05  0.09 2  999 1.2 1.0   6 12  6     6 12  6  99 3031 $ PISTOL   INSTANT_HIT 20.0 25.0 346 -1  2 silenced 17  10  0.25  0.05  0.09 3  5000 1.1  1.0   6 12  6     6 12  6  99 7031

[Revolution-Designes]

QUOTE (oksa8 @ Sunday, Sep 18 2011, 11:46)

Ok, here's a small demonstration of what I can do to weapons. Changed: Now holding pistol with two hands, and no dual wielding. Smaller range Less damage Higher rate of fire Modified accuracy Default.ide: CODE 346, colt45, colt45, silenced, 1, 30, 0 Weapons.dat: CODE $ PISTOL   INSTANT_HIT 20.0 25.0 346 -1  2 silenced 17  10  0.25  0.05  0.09     0  0 0.75 1.0   6 12  6     6 12  6  99 3031 $ PISTOL   INSTANT_HIT 20.0 25.0 346 -1  2 silenced 17  10  0.25  0.05  0.09 1  40 1.0  1.0   6 12  6     6 12  6  99 3031 $ PISTOL   INSTANT_HIT 20.0 25.0 346 -1  2 silenced 17  10  0.25  0.05  0.09 2  999 1.2 1.0   6 12  6     6 12  6  99 3031 $ PISTOL   INSTANT_HIT 20.0 25.0 346 -1  2 silenced 17  10  0.25  0.05  0.09 3  5000 1.1  1.0   6 12  6     6 12  6  99 7031

Very nice, I tested it and it works very well. Especially the higher fire rate is remarkable. One thing that bothers me is that you can't walk while aiming, can you change that?

[bull.04]

QUOTE (Revolution-Designes @ Sunday, Sep 18 2011, 06:43)

QUOTE (oksa8 @ Sunday, Sep 18 2011, 11:46) Ok, here's a small demonstration of what I can do to weapons. Changed: Now holding pistol with two hands, and no dual wielding. Smaller range Less damage Higher rate of fire Modified accuracy Default.ide: CODE 346, colt45, colt45, silenced, 1, 30, 0 Weapons.dat: CODE $ PISTOL   INSTANT_HIT 20.0 25.0 346 -1  2 silenced 17  10  0.25  0.05  0.09     0  0 0.75 1.0   6 12  6     6 12  6  99 3031 $ PISTOL   INSTANT_HIT 20.0 25.0 346 -1  2 silenced 17  10  0.25  0.05  0.09 1  40 1.0  1.0   6 12  6     6 12  6  99 3031 $ PISTOL   INSTANT_HIT 20.0 25.0 346 -1  2 silenced 17  10  0.25  0.05  0.09 2  999 1.2 1.0   6 12  6     6 12  6  99 3031 $ PISTOL   INSTANT_HIT 20.0 25.0 346 -1  2 silenced 17  10  0.25  0.05  0.09 3  5000 1.1  1.0   6 12  6     6 12  6  99 7031 Very nice, I tested it and it works very well. Especially the higher fire rate is remarkable. One thing that bothers me is that you can't walk while aiming, can you change that?

Did you put the opcode in the main script to set the weapons to hitman?

[Revolution-Designes]

QUOTE (bull.04 @ Sunday, Sep 18 2011, 19:40)

QUOTE (Revolution-Designes @ Sunday, Sep 18 2011, 06:43) QUOTE (oksa8 @ Sunday, Sep 18 2011, 11:46) Ok, here's a small demonstration of what I can do to weapons. Changed: Now holding pistol with two hands, and no dual wielding. Smaller range Less damage Higher rate of fire Modified accuracy Default.ide: CODE 346, colt45, colt45, silenced, 1, 30, 0 Weapons.dat: CODE $ PISTOL   INSTANT_HIT 20.0 25.0 346 -1  2 silenced 17  10  0.25  0.05  0.09     0  0 0.75 1.0   6 12  6     6 12  6  99 3031 $ PISTOL   INSTANT_HIT 20.0 25.0 346 -1  2 silenced 17  10  0.25  0.05  0.09 1  40 1.0  1.0   6 12  6     6 12  6  99 3031 $ PISTOL   INSTANT_HIT 20.0 25.0 346 -1  2 silenced 17  10  0.25  0.05  0.09 2  999 1.2 1.0   6 12  6     6 12  6  99 3031 $ PISTOL   INSTANT_HIT 20.0 25.0 346 -1  2 silenced 17  10  0.25  0.05  0.09 3  5000 1.1  1.0   6 12  6     6 12  6  99 7031 Very nice, I tested it and it works very well. Especially the higher fire rate is remarkable. One thing that bothers me is that you can't walk while aiming, can you change that? Did you put the opcode in the main script to set the weapons to hitman?

Ofcourse! Stupid me, I'll fix it.

[bull.04]

Made some new weapons for the mod!
Pipe Bomb:
Guitar:
Frying Pan:

I made all of the textures and modes EXCEPT the guitar which goes to this glorious man for making:
http://www.garrysmod.org/downloads/?a=view&id=22349

Guitar replaces Bat (will actually replace cane later.)
Frying Pan replaces Silver Vibrator ()
Pipe bomb replaces grenade (since Molotovs are in L4D.)

They all come with their own icons too.

[Revolution-Designes]

Very nice Bull! Especially that pipebomb! Gotta find a way to make it act just like in L4D. Anyways, I got the witch model/texture working properly now so that's fixed. Still have to make some adjustments to the current campaign and then I can continue with the path towards Unity Station.

[bull.04]

Awesome . I decided to do something legit and make my own guitar. It's a fender strat and replaces the cane.


Also, good luck on that campaign! Whenever you are ready for those zombie animations, just let me know.

[oksa8]

Looks nice so far, I'm waiting to see some firearms! (You know why )

Can you PM me some things, like Rate of Fire (rounds per minute), clip size, damage, and range of fire? I can begin to work with weapon-datas right after you give that info to me.

[Revolution-Designes]

QUOTE (oksa8 @ Tuesday, Sep 20 2011, 15:54)

Can you PM me some things, like Rate of Fire (rounds per minute), clip size, damage, and range of fire? I can begin to work with weapon-datas right after you give that info to me.

You mean the weapon data and stuff from the original L4D?

[oksa8]

Pretty much yes. I can make few different versions, with lower and higher damage so you can adjust difficulty. It should be pretty easy, just tell me what weapons you're going to put in L4T and I can check needed specs for those weapons if you don't have time. Are you going to put L4D2 weapons also in this mod?

[Revolution-Designes]

QUOTE (oksa8 @ Wednesday, Sep 21 2011, 15:28)

Pretty much yes. I can make few different versions, with lower and higher damage so you can adjust difficulty. It should be pretty easy, just tell me what weapons you're going to put in L4T and I can check needed specs for those weapons if you don't have time. Are you going to put L4D2 weapons also in this mod?

I'm not sure how I can find out these exact values for the weapons of L4D, they are probably based on original real life weapons. Anyway, I don't think we're going to add more weapons. There is only one thing that could increase the value of gameplay, in L4D you can't carry a Uzi and shotgun at the same time, in San Andreas you can. Is there a way you can edit the weapon groups? Like putting the Micro Uzi in the shotgun group? That way the difficult can be modified greatly. Also, is there a way you can make the player carry the Micro Uzi with 2 hands like in L4D? Just the same animation as you did for the pistol. What concerns the weapons from L4D2, we're probably only going to add the melee weapons like the frying pan and the guitar.

[bull.04]

QUOTE (Revolution-Designes @ Thursday, Sep 22 2011, 08:28)

QUOTE (oksa8 @ Wednesday, Sep 21 2011, 15:28) Pretty much yes. I can make few different versions, with lower and higher damage so you can adjust difficulty. It should be pretty easy, just tell me what weapons you're going to put in L4T and I can check needed specs for those weapons if you don't have time. Are you going to put L4D2 weapons also in this mod? I'm not sure how I can find out these exact values for the weapons of L4D, they are probably based on original real life weapons. Anyway, I don't think we're going to add more weapons. There is only one thing that could increase the value of gameplay, in L4D you can't carry a Uzi and shotgun at the same time, in San Andreas you can. Is there a way you can edit the weapon groups? Like putting the Micro Uzi in the shotgun group? That way the difficult can be modified greatly. Also, is there a way you can make the player carry the Micro Uzi with 2 hands like in L4D? Just the same animation as you did for the pistol. What concerns the weapons from L4D2, we're probably only going to add the melee weapons like the frying pan and the guitar.

Well, I don't think adding the micro-uzi into the shotgun group would do anything, but you can actually script this to work.

CODE

:WEPCHK_1 wait 0 if or Actor.HasWeapon($PLAYER_ACTOR, 28) // Actor.HasWeapon($PLAYER_ACTOR, 29) //  SUBMACHINEGUN CHECKS Actor.HasWeapon($PLAYER_ACTOR, 32) // jf @WEPCHK_2 0555: remove_weapon 25 from_actor $PLAYER_ACTOR // 0555: remove_weapon 26 from_actor $PLAYER_ACTOR //  REMOVE ALL SHOTGUNS 0555: remove_weapon 27 from_actor $PLAYER_ACTOR // 0555: remove_weapon 30 from_actor $PLAYER_ACTOR // 0555: remove_weapon 31 from_actor $PLAYER_ACTOR //  REMOVE ALL MACHINE GUNS 0555: remove_weapon 33 from_actor $PLAYER_ACTOR // 0555: remove_weapon 34 from_actor $PLAYER_ACTOR //  REMOVE ALL RIFLES jump @WEPCHK_1 :WEPCHK_2 wait 0 if or Actor.HasWeapon($PLAYER_ACTOR, 25) // Actor.HasWeapon($PLAYER_ACTOR, 26) //  SHOTGUN CHECKS Actor.HasWeapon($PLAYER_ACTOR, 27) // jf @WEPCHK_3 0555: remove_weapon 28 from_actor $PLAYER_ACTOR // 0555: remove_weapon 29 from_actor $PLAYER_ACTOR //  REMOVE ALL SUBMACHINEGUNS 0555: remove_weapon 32 from_actor $PLAYER_ACTOR // 0555: remove_weapon 30 from_actor $PLAYER_ACTOR // 0555: remove_weapon 31 from_actor $PLAYER_ACTOR //  REMOVE ALL MACHINE GUNS 0555: remove_weapon 33 from_actor $PLAYER_ACTOR // 0555: remove_weapon 34 from_actor $PLAYER_ACTOR //  REMOVE ALL RIFLES jump @WEPCHK_1 :WEPCHK_3 wait 0 if or Actor.HasWeapon($PLAYER_ACTOR, 30) // Actor.HasWeapon($PLAYER_ACTOR, 31) //  MACHINEGUN CHECKS jf @WEPCHK_3 0555: remove_weapon 28 from_actor $PLAYER_ACTOR // 0555: remove_weapon 29 from_actor $PLAYER_ACTOR //  REMOVE ALL SUBMACHINEGUNS 0555: remove_weapon 32 from_actor $PLAYER_ACTOR // 0555: remove_weapon 25 from_actor $PLAYER_ACTOR // 0555: remove_weapon 26 from_actor $PLAYER_ACTOR //  REMOVE ALL SHOTGUNS 0555: remove_weapon 27 from_actor $PLAYER_ACTOR // 0555: remove_weapon 33 from_actor $PLAYER_ACTOR // 0555: remove_weapon 34 from_actor $PLAYER_ACTOR //  REMOVE ALL RIFLES jump @WEPCHK_1 :WEPCHK_4 wait 0 if or Actor.HasWeapon($PLAYER_ACTOR, 33) // Actor.HasWeapon($PLAYER_ACTOR, 34) //  RIFLE CHECKS jf @WEPCHK_1 0555: remove_weapon 28 from_actor $PLAYER_ACTOR // 0555: remove_weapon 29 from_actor $PLAYER_ACTOR //  REMOVE ALL SUBMACHINEGUNS 0555: remove_weapon 32 from_actor $PLAYER_ACTOR // 0555: remove_weapon 25 from_actor $PLAYER_ACTOR // 0555: remove_weapon 26 from_actor $PLAYER_ACTOR //  REMOVE ALL SHOTGUNS 0555: remove_weapon 27 from_actor $PLAYER_ACTOR // 0555: remove_weapon 30 from_actor $PLAYER_ACTOR // 0555: remove_weapon 31 from_actor $PLAYER_ACTOR //  REMOVE ALL MACHINE GUNS jump @WEPCHK_1

[franciskyle09]

ok, I have a lot suggestions

Armoured vehicles: Like the one in Death Race
Fixing up the guns: Make the guns more unique. Like a one hand sawn-off shotgun or a dual M4 or something.
Allow changing character: Survival Mode doesn't need a dialog for the character so instead of normal CJ, Add some more playable characters (Add Johnny Klebitz or Claude)
Allow clothing changes: Allow CJ to change clothing from the clothing store.
Replacing Cities: Instead of the old San Fierro/Las Venturas cities we need to go.
Zombie Wielding Chainsaw: So it would be harder.

Hope you like it and I would love to help you guys (Texture Modder here )

This post has been edited by franciskyle09 on Friday, Sep 23 2011, 07:26