[JustRob]

Well, in the beta version of San Andreas, T-Bone and Ryder's roles were reversed. Ryder was the one shooting at you, and once you shot him down, Cesar would say "What do you wanna do with him Holmes?" and CJ would say "You sold us out, Ryder! You f*cked us all!", then Ryder would say his "I'm a motherf*cking genius" line and get shot, falling over the railing. Then T-Bone would jump in the water and say "Yeah, I'll come back for you, Johnson!".

So in the beta, Ryder was done a little more justice. I don't know why they switched him with T-Bone in the final version.

[huevos_benedicto_180]

QUOTE (JustRob @ Monday, May 7 2012, 19:46)

Well, in the beta version of San Andreas, T-Bone and Ryder's roles were reversed. Ryder was the one shooting at you, and once you shot him down, Cesar would say "What do you wanna do with him Holmes?" and CJ would say "You sold us out, Ryder! You f*cked us all!", then Ryder would say his "I'm a motherf*cking genius" line and get shot, falling over the railing. Then T-Bone would jump in the water and say "Yeah, I'll come back for you, Johnson!". So in the beta, Ryder was done a little more justice. I don't know why they switched him with T-Bone in the final version.

My guess is that they wanted to end the mission with killing Ryder.

[BabeRuth]

I think it would've been better with a showdown CJ & Sweet Vs. Big Smoke & Ryder, but thats just what I think.

[BabeRuth]

QUOTE (UberChargedCJ @ Thursday, Nov 3 2011, 04:14)

yes he died because he betrayed the grove street because he wants to join with ballas he's in goddamn hell because he betrayed the groves street

Let me clear something up for you....It wasn't Ryder who betrayed GSF/CJ/SWEET it was Big-Smoke, Ryder just follows with along with Big-Smoke.

[Pr00f]

I think he should die right after you unlock Las Venturas and you have to beat Boat school to unlock the mission in which you chase Ryder on a boat to kill him.

[lil weasel]

QUOTE (Pr00f @ Wednesday, Jul 18 2012, 17:27)

[...] the mission in which you chase Ryder on a boat to kill him.

Chase Ryder in a boat? You mean you don't just blast him with the H.E.A.T. Missile launcher from the pier 69? E-Gads... some people like to work

[BabeRuth]

I thought you didn't have to do the boating school, to beat the game?

[lil weasel]

You don't need to do anything with the Boat School unless you want to finish the game 100%

[ZoomZoom]

I wouldn't mind him dying in the climax of the game, but I really loved killing him by doing the drive-bys with my TEC-9

[cp1dell]

Holy sh*t. Ryder dies?

[MyDog]

Ryder should have been given a bigger role in my opinion. He was still a major character in the beginning, and later he was turned into Big Smoke's errand boy. Even when CJ killed him he displayed a bit of remorse later on, while when having killed Big Smoke he almost cries afterwards lol.

[BabeRuth]

QUOTE (cp1dell @ Sunday, Jul 22 2012, 18:45)

Holy sh*t. Ryder dies?

I hope your being sarcastic.

[cp1dell]

QUOTE (BabeRuth @ Monday, Jul 23 2012, 00:23)

QUOTE (cp1dell @ Sunday, Jul 22 2012, 18:45) Holy sh*t. Ryder dies? I hope your being sarcastic.

You can sleep tonight, friend. I was. :)

[BabeRuth]

QUOTE (cp1dell @ Monday, Jul 23 2012, 00:39)

QUOTE (BabeRuth @ Monday, Jul 23 2012, 00:23) QUOTE (cp1dell @ Sunday, Jul 22 2012, 18:45) Holy sh*t. Ryder dies? I hope your being sarcastic. You can sleep tonight, friend. I was.

I'll make sure the bed-bugs don't bite

[DarrinPA]

QUOTE (BabeRuth @ Thursday, May 10 2012, 18:30)

I think it would've been better with a showdown CJ & Sweet Vs. Big Smoke & Ryder, but thats just what I think.

This brings up a really good point, did Sweet get to take revenge on who he wanted to, or was he pretty much left out? Considering that CJ iced Ryder and Big Smoke, and Tenpenny dies in a car crash I would think that Sweet has some leftover rage that he never gets to release.

[ZoomZoom]

QUOTE (cp1dell @ Sunday, Jul 22 2012, 18:45)

Holy sh*t. Ryder dies?

Are you still in the beginning or trying to be funny?

[lil weasel]

Sweet, except when yelling at CJ is: a defeated loser living in the past:
What kind of creep is Sweet…

[ZoomZoom]

I think Sweet is angry with Carl, maybe he fears that he will steal his glory??

[lil weasel]

CJ did.

[BabeRuth]

Well....In the end they pretty much shared the glory, but CJ got the most of it.