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Posted: Sunday, May 13 2012, 20:11
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QUOTE (Toup @ Sunday, May 13 2012, 11:17)
So Dany wants to fight 7 kingdoms with 10 people and 3 baby dragons?


Yeah she seems like a retard. Least interesting character IMO.
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Posted: Monday, May 14 2012, 05:37
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She's kind of awesome. I started reading the books and my friends warned me that her chapters were the least enthralling. I have to disagree. I f*cking love Essos. f*ck Theon.

Also, pretty cool ep we got going tonight. f*ck Theon. That moment between Sansa and The Hound was awesome. f*ck Theon. I also liked the convos with Cersei- she's such an underrated character. f*ck Theon. Anyone else love that awkward moment with her and Tyrion? f*ck Theon. I thought Jaime was flagged as a particular douche this episode, as well. f*ck Theon. Really blue-balled us by cutting from the scene when they did, though. f*ck Theon. As for Dany, I can't wait to see what happens with in Qarth now.

Also, f*ck Theon.
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Posted: Monday, May 14 2012, 07:09
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Dany's story picks up a bit in the third book. The second book is much less interesting concerning her. Basically she goes to Qarth, and stays a while then goes to the house of the Undying, and not because the dragons are stolen. Major spoilers occur and then she leaves Qarth.

Somewhat related to this, I spoiled something hardcore for myself. During tonight's episode while Jaime was talking about how he was Ser Barristan's squire once, I wondered what happened to him. Damn my curiosity and a Wiki of Ice and Fire.

I only have one real gripe with this episode, besides my usual disappointment in the lack of certain key characters, and that's the fact that it feels like the show writers tacked on Jaime killing the Karstark boy, because they forgot to mention that he killed him in the battle of the whispering woods, when he was captured in the first season.

Speaking of Jaime, it looks like they're already reaching the end of the second book in terms of his story. With three episodes left, I wonder how far into the third book they'll get.
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Posted: Monday, May 14 2012, 07:47
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QUOTE (darthYENIK @ Monday, May 14 2012, 00:09)
I only have one real gripe with this episode, besides my usual disappointment in the lack of certain key characters, and that's the fact that it feels like the show writers tacked on Jaime killing the Karstark boy, because they forgot to mention that he killed him in the battle of the whispering woods, when he was captured in the first season.

I don't think that was "tacked on" as much as it simply made more sense for TV.

they needed a way to enhance Jaime's dialogue while setting him up for a fun little escape from captivity.
the MOMENT that scene started, and the kid began inching closer to Jaime to chat with him, I knew EXACTLY what was going to happen. that kid was like a Star Trek Red-Shirt as soon as he appeared on screen lol....

so I enjoyed it.
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Posted: Monday, May 14 2012, 08:01
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Holy f*cking hell. That can't have been a fake-out. It made me sick, I sh*t you not. I can't remember the last time I felt disgusted by something made up, but there you go. Now, on the one hand, Ned is the only POV character to have died so far and I've read that he's not the only one who goes but the bodies were charred which leaves room for fake-outing.

f*ckin' Theon.

On an unrelated note, the warlock was f*cking awesome.
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Posted: Monday, May 14 2012, 14:29
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QUOTE (Fnorg @ Monday, May 14 2012, 08:01)
On an unrelated note, the warlock was f*cking awesome.

He really was. Good stuff. Hope the visit to the House of the Undying is as enthralling as it was in the book.

Regarding Dany, I always expected her story this season to be dull. If anything, they've improved it over the book slightly in terms of tension and exciting things happening.

@darthYENIK: Regarding Jaime, I expect him and Brienne to be on their way by the end of the season. Could be the last we see of him next week. The final two episodes will have plenty to explore with the other characters, no need to try squeeze Jaime and Brienne's travels in there too.
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Posted: Monday, May 14 2012, 21:46
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Yeah, Dany's story has never really interested me at any point. She gets way too much screen-time for how stagnant her tale seems to be at this particular point. Everything else is awesome as per though, I want more Tyrion/Cersei!
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Posted: Tuesday, May 15 2012, 19:11
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In Episode 7 Jaime talks about him being a squire at 16, but I thought he was knighted at 15.

Also, I've just realsied something, isn't Xaro supposed to be white?

Are these inconsistencies done on purpose or not?
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QUOTE (Slingaa @ Tuesday, May 15 2012, 11:11)
In Episode 7 Jaime talks about him being a squire at 16, but I thought he was knighted at 15.

Also, I've just realsied something, isn't Xaro supposed to be white?

Are these inconsistencies done on purpose or not?

I'm not sure about Jaime - was that a fact from the book, or the show? Obviously there are discrepancies between the two.

Xaro was always, to me, a bit more like an opulent Persian character, but I quite like the guy in the role and I don't think the casting is really that far off the mark.
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Posted: Tuesday, May 15 2012, 19:38
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Don't pay attention to the age discrepancies. Everyone is younger in the books. At this point in the books, Dany is 14, Robb and Jon are 15, Sansa is 13, Arya is 10, and Catelyn I think is supposed to be in her early to mid 30s.
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Posted: Tuesday, May 15 2012, 20:28
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seriously.

people have to stop comparing the show to the books; in any regard.
it's not fair to either medium.
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Posted: Wednesday, May 16 2012, 07:15
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QUOTE (Otter @ Tuesday, May 15 2012, 20:32)
QUOTE (Slingaa @ Tuesday, May 15 2012, 11:11)
In Episode 7 Jaime talks about him being a squire at 16, but I thought he was knighted at 15.

Also, I've just realsied something, isn't Xaro supposed to be white?

Are these inconsistencies done on purpose or not?

I'm not sure about Jaime - was that a fact from the book, or the show? Obviously there are discrepancies between the two.

Xaro was always, to me, a bit more like an opulent Persian character, but I quite like the guy in the role and I don't think the casting is really that far off the mark.

It says in the books, he was knighted at 15 by Arthur Dayne, making him the youngest knight to date.

Also Xaro is from Qarth, who are referred to as the Dothraki as the 'milkmen' becasue of their pale skin. Don't get me wrong, I think Nonso Anozie plays the part well.

This is the first time that I've read the books of something before the film/tv show comes out and I'm not used to seeing differences.
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Posted: Wednesday, May 16 2012, 11:16
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I watched season one before I read the books. Having read A Clash of Kings the differences really stand out this time. Still massively enjoying it though.

Hoping that this rumour that Dagmer Cleftjaw may end up being Ramsay Snow, rolled into one character is bullsh*t. That would be a massive change from the book.
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I have high hopes for this wildling crew in regards to finding out just how wild they actually are - particularly as Ygritte gave the impression when teasing Jon that the notion of buggering a sheep was preferable to a quick five finger sonata.
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Posted: Wednesday, May 16 2012, 21:18
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QUOTE (SIKKS66 @ Wednesday, May 16 2012, 03:16)
I watched season one before I read the books. Having read A Clash of Kings the differences really stand out this time. Still massively enjoying it though.

Hoping that this rumour that Dagmer Cleftjaw may end up being Ramsay Snow, rolled into one character is bullsh*t. That would be a massive change from the book.

Same here, about seeing the first season before starting the books, and I agree. But at the same time, I think the first season mirrored the book enough to where it wasn't too different. All the major locations from the book appear in the first season, as well as the major characters. The second season is missing a few major locations and characters. But for the most part they're presence isn't really missed. Although I am sad that they don't have Riverrun, the Tullys, and the Reeds. Especially now that I've just read the chapter in A Storm of Swords featuring Edmure Tully's wedding (holy f*cking sh*tballs, f*ck Walder Frey). Knowing how they do the show, they'll have Greatjon marrying a Frey before they introduce Edmure Tully.
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QUOTE (darthYENIK @ Wednesday, May 16 2012, 21:18)
Especially now that I've just read the chapter in A Storm of Swords featuring Edmure Tully's wedding (holy f*cking sh*tballs, f*ck Walder Frey).

Haha, that chapter is like having your virginity forcibly removed, am I right? I remember reading it and pretty much shouting "WHAT!?" at the book over and over until something changed but it didn't... damn you George RR Martin, damn you!

Regarding the Riverrun, Tullys and Reeds, I think we'll see them next season. They don't become crucial characters until that point so there was no real need to cast them until next season. They've transferred all the Riverrun scenes to Robb's camp which has worked, and Hoster and Edmure can be both introduced at once I reckon next year. Edmure is too big a character for them to leave out.
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Posted: Monday, May 21 2012, 02:27
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So, no weasel soup... sad.gif

Kind of a boring episode. Oh well. Next week should be awesome.
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I'm gonna' have to agree.

tonight's episode is the first one that I actually felt bored with.
also Robert's relationship with that girl who was the field surgeon has been way too forced, way too predictable.

otherwise I really enjoyed the scene between Tyrion and Cersei, where she thinks she has the upper-hand.
I also enjoyed the talk between Tyrion and the eunuch.
oh, and the scene with Jamie Lannister and that huge female knight (the blonde bull-dyke). those 2 couldn't be more opposite.

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Posted: Monday, May 21 2012, 04:45
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QUOTE (darthYENIK @ Sunday, May 20 2012, 20:27)
So, no weasel soup... sad.gif

Having just finished A Clash of Kings yesterday, I was saying the same thing. sad.gif

It feels totally different to watch the show and be in the know on certain things, as compared to being baited weekly to hold my breath and wait to see what happens. Although, it seems they're making tons of changes now.

It's obvious that Qhorin will have that moment in the book at some point, which is cool. I'm waiting to see some Bolton action, though. Those guys really f*cking stole the show in the end of A Clash of Kings.
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Posted: Monday, May 21 2012, 04:52
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I just hope the lack of weasel soup doesn't mean there will be no Brave Companions, and no severed head puppet shows.
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